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Yup gorz and starlight road got SUPER good this list. Monarchs are a pain in the ass now more then compare to the fish engine. (try tengu monarch).

But right now my last game I won by honest + BLS = GG
 
A staple is a card that is ran in 9/10 decks.
i.e- main staples in Adv.
MST
Sangan
dark hole
monster reborn
heavy storm
Solemn (ethier one but most decks have one.)
Gorz is useless in GK due ot the fact that GK goes off you usaly win and all you need is another turn.

Fishborg was banned along with the limitation f T.G and the limit of Accel making the new card to come out Qusar Dragon not as broken as it is.

Six sam got hit but konami doesn't like auto play decks.
Tengu got hit for the fact that it really doesn't require a brain to run.
3 JD really isnt that bad when grave control is around.
Twilight gt a huge boost in BLS but he's not as broken as he was back then.
Debris to one makes the game less board clearing (black rose dragon into BLS+ JD on the same turn = gg)

a lot of this post is just really wrong

fishborg was not banned to hurt quasar. quasar has existed in japan for quite some time and fishborg/quasar was never a 'problem combo'. fishborg was probably banned because they realized that water synchro being able to turn any card in hand into an upstart goblin every turn + completely unreasonable combos with enemy controller were a bit overpowered.

i dont understand the part about tengu being hit, since i dont think any word on the tcg list is even out yet, and the reason you listed is retarded

your reason for debris being restricted is also terrible, what are you even talking about? it was restricted because debris/dandy has been an overpowered combo for like two years now and they want something else at the top, not because it works well with judgment dragon...

also i have no idea what the fuck youre talking about with gk lol

im calling you out because youve been making consistently awful posts in this thread and i think the competitive players here would prefer if you didnt
 
Jesus I just thought about how rigged LS can be now.

BLS and 3 JD when LS never really used much backrow anyway. They could main 3 MST and Heavy if they wanted. 2 Necro also adds another dark monster to the grave. I can even see Summoner Monk being useful as it's another dark monster that lets you SS Lumina. Beckoning Light can also grab BLS and JD to just nuke and dish out 6000 damage for a cost of 1000 LP damage. I'm actually scared of LS right now.
 
Jesus I just thought about how rigged LS can be now.

BLS and 3 JD when LS never really used much backrow anyway. They could main 3 MST and Heavy if they wanted. 2 Necro also adds another dark monster to the grave. I can even see Summoner Monk being useful as it's another dark monster that lets you SS Lumina. Beckoning Light can also grab BLS and JD to just nuke and dish out 6000 damage for a cost of 1000 LP damage. I'm actually scared of LS right now.

Monk can only fetch level 4 targets; Lumina is 3.

Beckoning Light into BLS does sound rather scary though.
 
Jesus I just thought about how rigged LS can be now.

BLS and 3 JD when LS never really used much backrow anyway. They could main 3 MST and Heavy if they wanted. 2 Necro also adds another dark monster to the grave. I can even see Summoner Monk being useful as it's another dark monster that lets you SS Lumina. Beckoning Light can also grab BLS and JD to just nuke and dish out 6000 damage for a cost of 1000 LP damage. I'm actually scared of LS right now.

well monk could be ok but lumina is lv 3. i guess it could still get you lyla/ehren if you really wanted too. actually monk for lyla --> hit 1 backrow --> go into utopia doesnt sound half bad. you get a nice 2500 and make your BLS/chaos sorcerer live
 
well monk could be ok but lumina is lv 3. i guess it could still get you lyla/ehren if you really wanted too. actually monk for lyla --> hit 1 backrow --> go into utopia doesnt sound half bad. you get a nice 2500 and make your BLS/chaos sorcerer live

if you're concerned about xyz plays then just go tour guide into sangan into leviathan, detach sangan, search lumina, and later your BLS/C-sorc is alive.

Glen: any reason for Kycoo over Crow? Kycoo seems a little unreliable what with the mass amount of beaters and monster removal out there.
 
crow is ok but you still cant really handle bls/sorcs with it cause the deck will usually have more than 1 light and dark

with kycoo the opponent cant rfg cards from either player's graveyard, meaning they cant drop chaos monsters and cant necro gardna, so your unhindered kycoo pokes can go solely towards picking away at lightsworns to prevent a jd

kycoo is also incredible vs agents since they can only hyperion by rfging an agent from hand/field, and they cant even pop anything so they can get hit by dprisons and whatever
 
3|Lodt|Judgment Dragon
1|Lodt|Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner
2|Lodt|Wulf, Lightsworn Beast
1|Lodt|Garoth, Lightsworn Warrior
1|Lodt|Ehren, Lightsworn Monk
1|Lodt|Jain, Lightsworn Paladin
2|Lodt|Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter
1|Lodt|Honest
2|Drev|Effect Veiler
1|Dlg1|Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
2|Taev|Necro Gardna
2|Abpf|Battle Fader
1|Csoc|Plaguespreader Zombie
1|Ioc|Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning

3|Lodt|Solar Recharge
1|Ptdn|Allure of Darkness
1|Sdrl|Foolish Burial
1|Dp03|Burial from a Different Dimension
3|Sd1|Mystical Space Typhoon
1|Sd2|Heavy Storm
2|Drev|Pot of Duality
1|Lob|Monster reborn

1|Cp01|Solemn Judgment
1|Drev|Solemn Warning
1|Pgd|Trap Dustshoot
1|Sod|Mind Crush
1|Dpct|Starlight Road
1|Lod|Bottomless Trap Hole
1|Ast|Beckoning Light

2|Tdgs|Stardust Dragon
1|Csoc|Black Rose Dragon
1|Crms|Arcanite Magician
1|Drev|Scrap Dragon
1|Ha01|Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1|Ha01|Ally of Justice Catastor
1|Ha04|Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
Finishing i up

side deck
1x Debris
1x Dad
2x Malicious
2x Cyber dragon
3xFear monger
1x Doom lord
2xD. Draw
1xThunder king
1xLadd
1xMirror Force

This deck has been working for me for the new ban list. Side deck allows me to quickly change my engine over the next game it helps out alot. Plus I was talking about he Fih enginge with T.G and accel synch.

Treeborn+fish = accel = 1 draw.
With T.G out it equals 2 cards for a draw.
Now with the fish engine you can literally get Quasar turn 2.(T.G was pretty broken at 3.)

As for my earlier comment.
Debris into a black rose blow up field.
Drop a JD swing with no worries for 3k.(happens where I live at the shop ALOT.)
 
should test out tour guide. where the hell is your sangan? CotLB?

i can understand only 1 warning because it's an irl deck but the above two cards aren't exactly expensive atm

how do you ever expect to summon arcanite with only psz as a tuner

as for the debris comment i'm only a little incredulous because debris is rarely if ever seen in LS, and when it is, it's usually seen with the rest of the plant engine

glen: you know a yugioh break has been too long when you forget that kycoo stops removal ;_;
 
At LS deck two posts above: I don't really like Allure of Darkness in the deck and you're missing Charge of the Light Brigade. You're also missing Dark Hole and Book of Moon (don't know if that was intentional?) and Burial From A Different Dimension isn't doing much.

I don't really like Battle Fader in this deck either as you already have Necro Gardna and Gorz as Dark Monsters that can stop direct damage. I'm assuming mostly because it's a dark monster for BLS/Allure of Darkness? There must be a better dark monster you can use, but I just can't think of anything. I love Gale in most decks and it gives you another tuner, but it doesn't like being in the grave (except for a BLS target). I mentioned Summoner Monk earlier. Sangan wouldn't be the worst thing in the world either.

A friend of mine may sell his LS deck as he never duels, so I'll think more about LS if I buy it or another buddy of mine does.
 
There must be a better dark monster you can use, but I just can't think of anything... Sangan wouldn't be the worst thing in the world either.

this is where tour guide and xyz comes in

also that second part about sangan is sorely understated as it lets you search lumina, which is why it and cotlb are musts. tour guide is like carrying 3 more sangans in your deck.
 
this is where tour guide and xyz comes in

also that second part about sangan is sorely understated as it lets you search lumina, which is why it and cotlb are musts. tour guide is like carrying 3 more sangans in your deck.

I just thought about how much extra deck space LS can have and you're right. Adds more dark monsters and is a free search (although if you mill Lumina how many worthwhile targets are there? I guess Ryko and Veiler). Another small concern is that's a list of something like 24 monsters, which seems like a ton, but I guess LS usually doesn't run many traps. I'll definitely be playing around with LS on DN though.
 
if you mill lumina you have beckoning for a reason

although milling lumina is regardless a concern in any variant of lightsworn - that does NOT make it rationale to not run sangan/charge.
 
I just thought about how much extra deck space LS can have and you're right. Adds more dark monsters and is a free search (although if you mill Lumina how many worthwhile targets are there? I guess Ryko and Veiler). Another small concern is that's a list of something like 24 monsters, which seems like a ton, but I guess LS usually doesn't run many traps. I'll definitely be playing around with LS on DN though.

24 monsters is fine in lightsworns, hell the twilight build that won the SJC about 2 years ago ran something like 30 monsters, 8 spells and 2 beckonings
 
i really like the list. lightsworns/twilight will be quite good.

i'll post up my individual thoughts on each card later, as i want to compare it to my proposed list.

edit: now to wait for the tcg list and hope they semi tengu and limit trish...
 
Looks like my formula monarchs got hit pretty hard :(

I'm wondering if monarchs will still be viable or if I should just switch to some twilight build...
 
Battle Fader is to stop the BW from wrecking face.
All my solemn are currently in my other decks soo I kinda haft to live with one plus one works for this deck.

Effect veiler is a tuner monster. Also try a debris in a LS built one kid ran one last tourney as tech and proved to be a valuable assets.
Dark hole I need to make space for. CotLB I really really dont need after testing this deck I got enough draw. (I might run rota). Debris + doomlord works REALLY REALLY well.

Currently I will test
-1 fader
+1 monk
 
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300px-DestinyHERODoomLordDR04-EN-R-UE.png

debris dragon can't even summon doom lord; what are you talking about?
 
wow I just realized that I feel dumb.... Got a good point (havent tested that out yet.)

Soo for side deck changes.
-1 debris
+1 Sangan.

Yet again this deck is just been going through testing in aobut a week the final build should be done.
 
Battle Fader is to stop the BW from wrecking face.
All my solemn are currently in my other decks soo I kinda haft to live with one plus one works for this deck.

Effect veiler is a tuner monster. Also try a debris in a LS built one kid ran one last tourney as tech and proved to be a valuable assets.
Dark hole I need to make space for. CotLB I really really dont need after testing this deck I got enough draw. (I might run rota). Debris + doomlord works REALLY REALLY well.

Currently I will test
-1 fader
+1 monk

you think rota is better than cotlb? this is getting ridiculous lol, do you know anything about this game?
 
Alright also Burial is very nice to reuse necro +plague. I will do that.

No I dont tihnk rota is better then CoTLB what I got for cards atm.
I disliked CotLB for the fact that I ALWAYS mill the shit I need (i milled 2 POD's and a solemn for instance.)
I just have shitty luck.
 
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