I wanna try out the physical set. I've been looking forward to this Pokemon for awhile, and I think the Physical set has lots of potential. Mixed seems cool too, with Flare Blitz and Focus Blast.
Obviously you have to scout with U-turn first, using Death Gamble off the bat is not a wise move.If you come in on rocks, you'll only have 303 HP, which does not score nearly as many kills with Death Gambit. In addition; running it as a lead is just asking for the enemy to use Protect to either scout your move, or (should it indeed work that way) cause Death Gambit to be wasted.
Aside: I can't stop picturing Victini with a Goatee now. :(
since cheer up will boost both attack stats, a mixed set is prefered. brick break/fire blast (or flamethrower for pp) would probably be the better set. there will be no recoil from flare blitz and you can deal with blissey after some cheer ups. Also, most psychical walls are weak to fire, making the fire move a better option than the psychic move.I just got my Vicitini in the game today yeah i'm slow player lol, anyways I kidna wanna combine Subsitute and Cheer UP with a Salac Berry
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
Item: Salac Berry
12 HP/244 Attack/252 Speed
Subsitute
Cheer Up
Zen Headbutt/Flare Blitz
Brick Break/Flare Blitz
Timid/Modest
12 HP/244 SpA/252 Speed
Subsistute
Cheer Up
Psychic/Focus Blast
Flame Bomb
You can go special Cheer Sub or Psychial Sub Cheer, based on personal preference
PS-Plz don't be harsh on me I'm new at this thanks :)
Hey, I don't really think that works as a lead.Bikutini @ Lum Berry
Trait: Victory Star
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Kaendan
- Protect
- Taunt
- Thunder / U-Turn
This is the lead set I'm running.
The only problem is that victini doesn't learn claw sharpen(but ambipom does?)How bout A mix sharpen set?
Victini@Life Orb
Victory Star, (+Spe, -Def)
196 Atk, 96 SpA, 216 Spe
-Claw Sharpen
-Wild Volt
-Zen Headbutt/Brick Break
-Purgatory/Fire Blast
Purgatory Becomes 91% accurate after a Claw Sharpen, and is his special attacking side. I do not remember the nature's name, but the +Spe, -Def is recommended over the -SpD, as the burn from Purgatory solves the defense problem. Wild Volt is an excellent move, and Zen Headbutt for STAB. Brick break can be use to anhillate Blissey :)
the set's only real problems are Ono, Dora, and Geno, withh their speeds above the base 95 the current EVs try to beat, and being walled hands down by Latias, although it won't appreciate being burnt
WHAA?Purgatory only has 73 Accuracy after one Claw Sharpen and Victory Star. After 2, it gets 91 Accuracy. Considering the fact that Fire Blast has more power and has perfect Accuracy after one Claw Sharpen, I would definitely put it as the primary option.
Edit: Yeah, as Green Thunder said, Victini doesn't even learn Claw Sharpen.
Victini doesn't really need a boosting move, since it already overtakes a role OU's been needing for a while now: another good Fire type. Plus, it gets Victory Star, which is a really awesome ability that he can abuse like no tomorrow.NO stat boosts at all clearly make this the worst sweeper of all the pixies(if it can at all). jirachi/celebi/mew/manaphy/azelf all do it better. A super accurate WoW however is probably its biggest asset and something that I would at least try to run. scarftar would fall flat on its face if it switched into a burn and tried to persuit only to get hit by a extremely high accuracy focus blast.
if anything I would be a lot more worried about the endless supply of bulky water types that are so prevalent and don't use physical attacks.
True, but the problem here is typing. Swampert/Kingdra/Heatran have very strong defensive typing, which lets them get away with lower defensive stats. Celebi (the closest comparison IMO) has similar typing issues but gets off clean because it has key resistances to fighting, ground, water, and electric, which allows for some key synergies. As of yet I have not seen those same synergies with Victini. The weakness to ground is particularly key, as earthquake is one of the most common and powerful attacks in OU play. To make things worse, Victini is ALSO weak to rock attacks, meaning it can get hit by either side of the edge-quake combo (which means bringing in a counter poke to live the hit is extremely hard).Starmie only has 100 special attack stat and can be a very effective sweeper. Manaphy has 100 sweeping stats and was considered too powerful for standard. Celebi has 100 stats and could run effective offensive and/or defensive sets despite having a whopping 7 weaknesses and one of those a 4x weakness to U-turn. Jirachi Can also run effective Sweeping or tanky sets with base 100 stats. Venusaur only has 82/100/80 offensive stats and was one of the top UU sweepers and even saw a little OU play; it also only has 80/83/100 defenses and is considered to have decent bulk. Kindra has only 95/95/85 offensive stats and could be one of the most scary sweepers in the metagame. Just a few examples.
Also, what is with people saying things that are bulkier than Swampert "aren't very bulky" this generation. Considering 75/75/75 defenses are "average" to "acceptable" 100/100/100 is very bulky. I remember when D/P came out everyone said Heatran would be trash because 4x Ground weakness and Fighting weakness and Water weakness. Just silly.
Actually the 10% boost is multiplicative, not additive, so they only have 77% accuracy... shame...On a side note, Thunder and Focus Blast get 80% accuracy, which sounds great until you recall Fail Edge. Suddenly Victory Star just seems a whole lot overhyped than we made it out to be in the early days of B/W.