Orcinus Duo
Banned deucer.
Bc you're inactive and lurking?
Every last one I've seen (and that I remember) has been written by the mafiaIn no particular order, although you have justified your list of reads by saying you do it a lot in other games (which I have to take your word for)
-Please explain why a list of reads is scummy
All right, I'll clarify:you've twisted my words some (such as subreason d)
-I've yet to twist your words, only interpreted your actions. You keep joining the biggest wagon, every single time. It looked like you were trying to hurry up an lynch someone, far from the accuracy you say you want.
I was not completely awake then; I forgot to put the second half of the reason. Here it is: yet you also list me as probably mafia, when most of what I've done has consisted of voting them, debating on the odds, and debating with you.you list one of the major people I've voted as slightly mafia and another as probably mafia (paraphrasing your list's categories)
-wtf at this 'scumtell' lol
Ok, I'll take your word for that one... especially since you probably have lots of experience on sites dedicated to mafia, so the culture there is more active.you mentioned that you didn't figure out at first that you needed a no read category, yet you claim to make these lists a lot in other games
-in other games, half the village isn't inactive
Mostly an afterthought that I added before I looked again at your posts.you voted me (and I know I'm clean)
-if this wasn't a joke, OMGUS
Then why didn't you include that in your post that first asked for that information?your RVS voting stage info request (ignored by everyone, IIRC) seems like mafia trying to figure out who to kill first
-"In fact, there are a lot of new users playing in this game, which will make it much harder discerning between mafia and "noob town". " <-this is why I wanted the info. I'm new to this mafia community.
No, but changing votes that often and in conjunction with the other stuff I mentioned is.and you changed votes what seems to be even more often than I have (though to be fair, others change votes a bit, too)
-changing votes is definitely scummy.
I fail to see how being thorough is "grasping at straws." I'm answering your arguments as I see them. Also, I would like an answer to this, from the post you quoted:You're still grasping at straws in an effort to invalidate my read on you. Any reason why this is?
There are still three reasons I feel you have not adequately answered, so my suspicion of you based on your posts taken holisticaly still applies.Aura Guardian said:Any one of those reasons alone could be coincidence. However, all of them together seems very suspicious to me.
I made those questions up. ^^^^1) What is your read on Aura_Guardian?
2) What is your read on zorbees?
3) What is your read on myself?
4) What is your read on Metal Bagon?
Mostly, this is a case of first impressions of the "list of reads." And his style... vaguely unsettling. It reminds me of Finn's strategy. I just can't shake the feeling that Finn's strategy is being repeated. Though, I could just be a bit paranoid.Also, I don't understand why you think list of reads is bad, because, despite Finn being mafia and doing a list of reads, all a list of reads really is is thoughts about the game described thoroughly, which you seem to like.
The only reason I haven't claimed is because of that top line. Spiffy seems to be helping more then anything else so I decided to follow him. However, I will claim if you guys ask.No Metal Bagon do not public claim, there is no reason to.
And OD, I really don't think TalkingLion is acting scummy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe he is a newer user and just didn't understand what a mayor is and how it could be proven. In fact, there are a lot of new users playing in this game, which will make it much harder discerning between mafia and "noob town".
Without further ado,
Vote Maxim
Please post your thoughts!
Regarding experience, I don't think I've answered it, but if I've answered it, the answer would have been "I haven't played any forum NOC before, even though I've lurked and read through recent NOC games here on smogon. I sometimes play mafia IRL, but the people whom I play with are, unfortunately, not that accustomed to the mindset you need to have in mafia. So, yes, I have some experience of NOC, but it's far from much."Something I've just noticed after reviewing the thread is, despite having one of the higher amount of posts in this thread, nEsp hasn't casted one vote for anyone, and hasn't even really given any thoughts on who he thinks we should lynch. I'm not sure if this is a "scumtell", but I found it a bit strange. I just feel that if you've made that many posts that you should have at least given your opinions on the players.
@Maxim: I'll calm down on you for now but that extra vote on Metal Bagon was not needed...
Unvote
Vote Mithril (vote and unvote unbolded, just in case)
Please post your thoughts, the amount of noncontributional players is ridiculous.
Also nEsp, you have answered this before and I just missed it, but have you had any previous experience in NOC?
I, being the person he was defending, would also like to hear NJig explain his logic further. Perhaps Njig was trying to let people know i actually have a brainstem so that throughout the rest of the game i could be taken seriously. That's my best guess anyway. It seems as though listing me as a good mafia player would lead to labeling me as suspicious instead of town, seeing as I No-Lynched at the start of the game. (Judging solely on my first 2 posts)NJiggly: One post of very flawed logic without explanation. If you don't count the"good luck"-post on page one. That'd make it two posts. He's been asked to explain the strange logic at least once, but don't provide us with anything. If I had to vote anyone right now, it'd be NJiggly.
So if any of you guys don't mind I think it would be in the village's best interest to tack on three or four more votes for Mithril. I do not want Mithril to be lynched, but we need him to talk.
^this^ is good enough for meI'd also request that Walrein extend the deadline a little longer; We have too many inactive/unhelpful people in the game as of right now. :(
"Yeah good idea let's get the pressure off of me and onto Mithril good idea Spiffy!!!!!"We've spent way too long distracted by the same people (including myself) aguing forever. I agree with spiffy that it is time to change things up and forcibly add someone to the argument.