Harry Potter Mafia II - Game Over

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It doesn't mean you're mafia automatically kira.

Good mafia players are the ones who determine whether you're honest or not.
It's usually context and intent that we're looking for.

I don't think anyone truly think's you're mafia.

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16 for aamto
22 for obi
 
I know... it just really pisses me off that I have to double check all my posts so that I wont get mistaken for a mafia.

Anyway I just wanted to get that out of the way early, so that it doesnt bite me in the ass later when some idiot thinks I am mafia just because of a word I used.
 
Thunderpup said:
this might change
seeing as GTS only votes for who is winning
may be suspicious
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I vote for who is winning because I want the day to end. I doubt have a bias towards either member. That is all.

I get anxious when something that takes this much preparation could possibly get ruined...


((Look at above post for example of this...))


Either way, that vote is final.
 
Ok am I the only one who doesn't get this whole inspection process? Does it get sent to anyone in the game? Or can it only be sent to people aligned with hogwarts? Because if it's the former, the inspector could be doing just as much bad as good with this ability. Especially if the inspector doesn't get to see the person's role, themselves. Sorta odd.

Good to see it's only a couple more votes and this game can move on, at least...
 
I was the inspector in Saw Mafia, and how it worked was I would PM obi with my target, then the next morning I would get the info on that person. Then I would share it with Mekkah, who would share it with the alliance of villys. Since Tooth is to this game as Mekkah was to that game, the inspector is giving the info to him. At least that's the case if the role is the same. If it isn't then I have no clue.
 
I'm not voting to lynch aamto randomly. I've played mafia with him several times, and I've begun to learn how he plays. His word choice, whether or not he posts, etc. Everything I'd seen points to him being mafia.

Since then, I've gotten even more information on him.

I'll make you all a deal. I am positive that aamto is not only mafia, but a Death Eater. If we lynch aamto and he isn't a Death Eater, and if neither mafia kills me in the night, then I will vote for myself come day 2.

However, I can't just make the case that aamto is a death eater, I also have to prove that I'm not a bad guy, which I'll admit I've done a poor job of so far.

Toothache is apparently Fred (or George?). Fred hates Percy for being such a miserable git. In other words, there's reason to believe that his information about me would be flawed.

Second, and most importantly, let's consider what kind of roles would be in Harry Potter. Another name for the inspector is seer. Who is the seer in Harry Potter? Sybill Trelawney.

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She has only predicted correctly twice in her life.

In mafia, there are three types of seers. Right, wrong, and random.

Right is the seer we are all familiar with. Seer someone, get the info.

Wrong is somewhat the opposite. You seer someone, but the info you get is always wrong.

Random (insane / crazy / mad) is an interesting version. When you seer someone, you get random information about which side they are aligned with. In some versions, future seerings are similarly random, and in others, it gives the same information (so the person cannot know they are random until they lynch someone falsely).

What this means is that the most likely character for being a seer is also the most likely to be something like the random or wrong style of seer.

For all we know, the way the seering is passed is like a big jumble of crystal balls from the department of mysteries, only the names get switched. Rufus Scrimgeour seems like a good choice for that description. Or maybe you get the description that the Ministry think I have.
 
Shiv said:
Sybilla Trelawny, Hogwarts. Knows all the roles in the game and what their PM said. It was stated in my PM that I can use Mekkah as a crystal ball since I have more things (the roles) to ask about. I can't ask questions that may spoil the game.
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This is from the previous saw mafia.
this would also explain how the roles would be recognized?

but also having the power to investigate would be a bit too much, I think.
It would make sense for mekkah to place some restrictions on it.
Firstly, the character playing sybil cannot know herself what she finds.
Instead, the information is given to a random student? This would be still too much, as this can be utilized to have students find eachother.
Secondly, it's entirely plausible that the information may be faulty.

While I'm not sure if Obi would follow through with lynching himself if it wasn't aamto, I am still in favor of voting aamto. While I do trust toothache that obi is percy, I don't think percy is a role we should kill right now. Toothache said there was a spy in the ministry, and it's possible that obi could be useful alive, especially if it's true that when fudge dies, obi takes his place (?maybe, or he could become student)

a mafia member will die tonight, but killing the one that may be useful later on does not seem as good of a choice to me.
 
I do not see how Obi's role is broken if he does not know every student and cannot reveal them to the ministry, and on the flip side, if he knows even just Fudge, he will get killed off for killing Fudge, if he is a mole favoring the students. (replying to Kade last page)

Toothache did lie, probably to try and keep people from targeting him as the inspector, that is if he is the inspector, but I do not abide liars, so he is the person I am most suspicious of at present. (replying to Thunderpup last page)

I do not care if Obi DOES end up being bad, as the presumption for any style mafia game is that around half the players will be good and half the players bad, so there is even probably around a 25% not only is Obi Ministry or Death Eater, but that Obi really is right that aamto is also Ministry or Death Eater (or well, he claimed Death Eater, which makes it less likely, but my point should still be demonstrated). That is common sense. At the same time, there is around a 25% chance that neither is Ministry nor Death Eater.
 
Obi said:
Second, and most importantly, let's consider what kind of roles would be in Harry Potter. Another name for the inspector is seer. Who is the seer in Harry Potter? Sybill Trelawney.
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Good point about the seer possibly being wrong. Except for the fact that Toothache already told us who the information is coming from:

Toothache said:
The information came from non other than Arthur Weasley.
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We can assume that Arthus Weasley isn't a seer, but a Ministry worker who seems to be on Hogwart's side. The liklihood of his information being accurate is considerably higher than Sybill Trelawney the seer.

That being said, I don't think that Mekkah would even put a role which gave incorrect information in the game. It would be unneccesary and only serve to be a huge hinderance to whichever side got such a role.
 
As the arguments begin to run their course, the windows to the Great Hall suddenly slam shut as the ceiling turns to night. Desperate, the citizens of Hogwarts turn to the most reviled member of their fold. Obi finds himself in front of a bloodthirsty mob of students, teachers, death eaters, and ministry workers. All after his death. He begins to proclaim his innocence, pleading for mercy and his life. No one knows where the first curse came from, but it came from somewhere and sparked panic in the mob, felling Obi where he stood.

Gingerly, the mass approaches his still body and pushes back his robes and wizarding hat to reveal the characteristic red hair of a Weasley and the horn rimmed glasses of Percy Weasley. Gasps are heard throughout the hall as the residents struggle to make sense of it, no one quite sure which side he was on, until a piece of paper is revealed on his body, badly damaged by the curses unleashed upon him. It read, as best it could be, as follows:

Obi, you are Percy Weasley.
You are allied with the Ministry of Magic.

You are the personal assistant of the Minister of Magic, Cornelius Fudge, also known as [page is scorched here]. The goal of you and the rest of the Ministry is to wipe out all allied with Hogwarts and Death Eaters. To avoid detection by Dumbledore [more scorch marks] with the Ministry.

[scorched parchment]

If Cornelius Fudge dies, you will replace him, and another Ministry Worker will take the duty to assist you [the page is scorched at the end].

While many question how a Weasley could ever turn so wrong and how to break the news to his family, others still rejoice in the fact that a Ministry Worker has been killed, making Hogwarts slightly safer.

Everyone now files off to their rooms, for night two has fallen.
 
Yeah that fits Gorm.

Also I'll ask the bodyguard to protect me this night at least. You need someone to act as the voice of Hogwarts. As you can see my information was proved true, so you can guarantee I'm clean.
 
That was the danger of killing Percy I guess. It seems obvious that the role had other powers or possibilities than what we knew for sure about.

Looks like Toothache can be trusted at least.
 
how are you people getting mole from that lol, i was the mole in saw mafia and I could not kill under any circumstance. Obi was to take over for fudge upon his death, meaning he was clearly a threat. Good kill :)
 
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