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Old Jan 8th, 2009, 6:01:41 PM   #1
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Default CAP 6 - Final Product

December 1st, 2008, 06:42 PM CST: Poll 1 of CAP 6
January 8th, 2009, 04:52 PM CST: End of last poll of CAP 6.

Total time: 5 weeks, 3 days - exactly half the time of CAP 5, which was 10 weeks and 6 days.

Arghonaut



Main Pokemon Information
Type: Water / Fighting
Base Stats: 105 HP / 110 Atk / 95 Def / 70 SpA / 100 SpD / 75 Spe
BST: 555
Ability: Avast (Unaware clone)

Height: 5'6"
Weight: 333 lbs.
Code:
Level Up Moves:
H. Water Sport
H. Mud Sport
- Bubble
- Yawn
- Wrap
7. Yawn
10. Wrap
16. Arm Thrust
21. Aqua Jet
27. Mach Punch
32. Bubblebeam
36. Revenge
41. Aqua Ring
47. Body Slam
55. Submission
60. Punishment
67. Wring Out

TMs/HMs:
TM01 - Focus Punch
TM03 - Water Pulse
TM05 - Roar
TM06 - Toxic
TM07 - Hail
TM10 - Hidden Power
TM12 - Taunt
TM13 - Ice Beam
TM14 - Blizzard
TM15 - Hyper Beam
TM17 - Protect
TM18 - Rain Dance
TM20 - Safeguard
TM21 - Frustration
TM26 - Earthquake
TM27 - Return
TM28 - Dig
TM31 - Brick Break
TM32 - Double Team
TM36 - Sludge Bomb
TM39 - Rock Tomb
TM41 - Torment
TM42 - Facade
TM43 - Secret Power
TM44 - Rest
TM45 - Attract
TM46 - Thief
TM49 - Snatch
TM54 - False Swipe
TM55 - Brine
TM56 - Fling
TM58 - Endure
TM60 - Drain Punch
TM63 - Embargo
TM68 - Giga Impact
TM71 - Stone Edge
TM72 - Avalanche
TM77 - Psych Up
TM78 - Captivate
TM80 - Rock Slide
TM82 - Sleep Talk
TM83 - Natural Gift
TM84 - Poison Jab
TM87 - Swagger
TM90 - Substitute

HM03 - Surf
HM04 - Strength
HM06 - Rock Smash
HM07 - Waterfall


Tutor Moves:
- Dive
- Ice Punch
- Icy Wind
- Thunderpunch
- Zen Headbutt
- Snore
- Uproar
- Gunk Shot
- Iron Head
- Mud-slap
- Superpower


Egg Moves (Water 1 / Water 3):
- Bulk Up (Poliwrath/Buizel)
- Constrict (Tentacool/Omanyte/Octillery/Lileep)
- Cross Chop (Psyduck)
- Foresight (Mudkip/Squirtle/Psyduck/Lapras/Surskit)
- Haze (Wooper/Surskit/Squirtle/Poliwag/Tentacool/Krabby/Omanyte/Dratini/Remoraid/Mantine/Feebas)
- Headbutt (Slowpoke/Seel/Mantine/Bidoof/Buizel)
- Octazooka (Remoraid/Horsea)
- Recover (Corsola/Milotic/Shellos/Lileep)
- Scary Face (Totodile/Masquerain/Huntail)
- Spit Up (Pelipper/Lileep/Wooper/Spheal/Shellos)
- Stockpile (Pelipper/Lileep/Wooper/Spheal/Shellos)
- Swallow (Pelipper/Lileep/Wooper/Spheal/Shellos)
What I need from you guys, now: opinions of height (doesn't matter), weight (matters), and a name for unaware (doesn't matter).

It's been fun!
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Old Jan 8th, 2009, 6:03:46 PM   #2
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Congrats on a well done CAP darkie. Fast and efficient, just the way I like it. Can't wait to play test this.
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Old Jan 8th, 2009, 6:04:15 PM   #3
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Can we make this CAP fat? It's supposed to be bulky anyway, and squids are generally large. I'd say whatever makes Grass Knot hit for 100 BP.

PS: Stratagem is still cooler!!
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Old Jan 8th, 2009, 6:05:31 PM   #4
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Yes, well done, Scarfkie.

Name for Unaware: Demoralize
Height: 6'7"
Weight: 253 lbs (100 Base)
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Old Jan 8th, 2009, 6:08:20 PM   #5
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I'll support Woodsy's height and weight, but I propose Undermine as a replacement for Unaware. Y'know, 'cause it's undermining your stat boosts. :P

Also, awesome, ScarfDarkie.
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Old Jan 8th, 2009, 6:11:51 PM   #6
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Fair Fight is a prettty good name I have heard for Unaware. I'm not sure who came up with it, but it wasn't me.

Ruthless is also a good name for such an ability. It indicates a single-mindedness to the point that it ignores the opponent's boosts. It goes great with the pirate theme.
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Old Jan 8th, 2009, 6:12:02 PM   #7
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I'm against changing Unaware because a. It's more work for Doug, and he doesn't have much time as is, and b. because do you realize how many people we have coming on the server asking WHAHTS MOUNTAINER? It's easier to just avoid the questions. Nitpicky answer to nitpicky issue.
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Old Jan 8th, 2009, 6:12:17 PM   #8
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First post, but I've been watching the CaP process for a long time. This one was really quick, thanks to Darkie and darkie alone.

I was thinking 4 pounds (similar to Octillery, but heavier for grass knot and gloves/sowards)
2 ft. and 7 in. (also similar to Octillery, but shorter because sprites look more hunched down)
Don't know about name for unaware...

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I'm against changing Unaware because a. It's more work for Doug, and he doesn't have much time as is, and b. because do you realize how many people we have coming on the server asking WHAHTS MOUNTAINER? It's easier to just avoid the questions. Nitpicky answer to nitpicky issue.
The work thing isn't too terrible for me (I don't think). But, I agree about the "accessiblity" question. It probably would lead to LOTS of questions. Whereas, Unaware is quite well-known.
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Scurvy could go over Unaware. Fits with the pirate theme and makes pokemon sick and unable to use their stat boosts.
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Old Jan 8th, 2009, 6:21:34 PM   #11
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I agree with tennis that base 100 GK power would be nice
As for an ability name, I don't think Scurvy is half bad...so sick he can't watch your dragon dances?
And I guess yay to a CAP where I didn't win a single poll
edit: beat me to it lawman ;(
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Old Jan 8th, 2009, 6:23:29 PM   #12
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Great Minds think alike I suppose, but in my case, Arghonaut isn't the one getting sick, since being the toughest squid pirate in the world he is immune to scurvy, but other pokemon get it from him.
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Old Jan 8th, 2009, 6:25:42 PM   #13
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Besides the "extra work" and "accessibility" things, why do we even need a name change to the ability? We didn't create a new ability, and all the other CAPs used the old names for abilities (except the newly invented abilities obviously). I know that there are other abilities that double, but is there even really a flavor issue with this Pokemon? "Oh you stat-upped? I wasn't aware. Also I don't care."

I say leave it as Unaware
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Old Jan 8th, 2009, 6:27:05 PM   #14
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I won a CaP poll this time. As for Unaware, leave the name as is, and for height, he should be around 6'3" as for the weight being 212 lbs.
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I think Unaware as a name fits with the concept, as in 'I am unaware of your stat boosts because of this here eyepatch'
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Old Jan 8th, 2009, 6:47:06 PM   #16
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Why make Grass Knot hit 100BP on Squid pirate? Mostly curious really as 80 BP would do about the same things onto Squid Boy. It doesn't bother me 100% as everyone wanted some 500lb looking mofo from the start.
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Height: 2'10"
Weight: 204 pounds (base 80 GK)
Ability: Ruthless

As for height, imagine a squid pokemon right next to you. For me, I figured he'd look around 2'10". He's definitely not as big as Torterra nor is he as small as a Pikachu. I think that base 100 GK would be a little too much, but that's just me :P Also, I like Doug's Ruthless ability name for the same reasons in his post.

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I feel like he could be 5 ft tall and 150 pounds (or does pokemon use metric?) Anyway, someone mentioned fair fight as a name for the ability. As a pirate, the ability name should be something exactly opposite of that...he's a pirate after all!

Orlando Bloom: I would have beaten you in a fair fight!
Jonny Dep: Not much incentive to fight fairly, is it mate?

So maybe a name like "Sneaky Tactics" would better suit him.
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Old Jan 8th, 2009, 7:10:29 PM   #19
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I wasn't really sure changing the name was a good idea... but Fair Fight is a realllly cool name. (I think it fits =/)

Also I'm thinking 80 BP is probably best for competitive interest. 217 lbs. work? 5' 8'' works for me .-.
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I love the idea of Fair Fight, but being a pirate, it should have the name Avast for Unaware. This is definitely pirate slang, and it is "A command meaning stop or desist", according to some random Pirate glossary I found on Google.

Dictionary.com says it is a:
–verb (imperative) Nautical.
used as a command to stop or cease: Avast heaving!

I think that this is a perfect name for CAP6 because of the effect of Unaware as well as the pirate theme.
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I've got to wonder: Is a pirate likely to actually try to have a fair fight?

Scurvy sounds more like an Intimidate (or a Truant effect because it's just that non-specific) ability more than an equalizer.

Ruthless sounds better than the other two, in my opinion, it just doesn't really convey the ability's effect (anybody else reminded of Reckless).

I'm almost tempted to back simple Unaware (c wat i did thar?) because of its accessibility - we already have enough people asking what Mountaineer does.

EDIT: If we do something other than Unaware, though. Avast sounds bitchin'. :D
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I think a height between 5 and 6 feet would be best and honestly the design make him look rather heavy so I could see him being around 250lbs.

As for Unaware. I say keep the name as is. It is easier for new people coming into CaP's metagame and there are plenty of flavorful reasons for a pirate to be unaware (Ex. Seasick, Drunk on Rum, being played by Johnny Dep ect.)
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I'm going with Kharozz's weight/height stats, as well as Ruthless as the ability name.
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Height: 4'5"
Weight: 153 lbs
Ability: Unaware
Not that it matters really, but I don't think it should have a prevo, just single stage.
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I'm against changing Unaware because a. It's more work for Doug, and he doesn't have much time as is, and b. because do you realize how many people we have coming on the server asking WHAHTS MOUNTAINER? It's easier to just avoid the questions. Nitpicky answer to nitpicky issue.
It's terribly easy to make carbon copies of abilities with different names. Heck, even I've done it before. A simple copy and paste in the code and a name change would be enough to create a new ability that copies Unaware. As for Mountaineer, I do agree with you, however, if they don't know what Mountaineer is, they obviously don't know what CaP is, and that's their fault, not ours.

Supporting Scurvy and anything 220+ lbs.
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