Let me give some more details to make sure I am understanding correctly. One I have my seed and frame, I put those into the ID/SID manipulation tool, along with my desired TID. In the search parameters I am putting 28 min frame and 75 max frame. For teh Date I am using either 11/x/2012 or 10/x/2012, because I want my trainer card to say I started my journey at some point after the game was actually released. Of the results I pick one that stays Starter True because I want to try for a shiny starter (even though they kinda suck). It will report a frame as well as an initial frame, which I ignore because it is always wrong. Then I hit the displayed seed and start a new game. I enter my name and my rival's name, making sure never to hit 'no' to anything because I want to enter the game on the initial frame. I then take the TID from my trainer card, and in put it into the Seed finder. If the Seed matches the one I used, I look at the displayed Frame and Initial frame. These are the real target frame and initial frame, respectively. If I push were to 'no' when talking to juniper to hit the target frame, then using that same seed I woudl get my desired TID instead of the one I just ran the test on. Also of note is in the seed Finder box, I set the min and max frames wider than what I searched for. This way I'll still get a result telling me if I hit the seed or not even if the real frames are outside of the range I searched for. The problem here is the value of "frame" Is always something really low, like in the low 20s or less (19, 22, 26, etc). The Initial frame is always at least 30 or 40, and is usually divisible by 5 or 10. <-- after further testing this line is not true. Is this just flat out "bad luck?" Is there anything special about the default date that gives better results?