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B&W Research Thread

Discussion in 'BW Competitive Discussion' started by ΩDonut, Sep 21, 2010.

  1. IcyMan28

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    Did a search of the first post with keyword "oblivious" and found nothing, so here goes.

    Mental Herb (which previously was exclusively used to cure attraction) has been found to cure Taunt, Torment, etc.

    Does the Oblivious ability now do the same?
  2. Ninja_13

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    Page 72 has both this question and it's answer, which is no.
  3. mien

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    I have updated the OP will all recent research, the only exception is Free Fall who currently needs retesting

    Arceus holding a Plate is immune to Trick, one holding Life Orb is not

    It failed
  4. deluge

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    I understand Trick used to fail *when Arceus used it* whether it was holding a plate or not.

    In Gen V can Arceus use Trick when it's not holding a plate?
    (It learns Trick from 4th gen tutors)
  5. Manafii101

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    Can you trick a plate onto Arceus? I can see the advantage in making your opponent's extremekiller arceus an ice type...
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  7. Philip7086

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    Very interesting research question:

    Can Harvest activate twice in one turn?

    How to test: have a faster Pokemon attack a Harvest Pokemon holding Sitrus Berry so that it activates, and have the Harvest Pokemon use Substitute in the same turn. Does Sitrus Berry activate twice?
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    I have confirmed that the Sitrus Berry does indeed activate twice in the same turn. I would like to extend my thanks to iamgreatness for helping me conduct this test.

    Video
  9. Niched

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    Perish song now causes the faster pokemon to faint first. If both trainers have one pokemon remaining, and they both faint in the same turn with perish song, the one with the faster pokemon will lose.
  10. MauriiDS

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    No.

    Yes.
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    What happens if Volt Change/U-turn faint a Pokemon and the pokemon switched in after the Volt change has download? Does it get a boost or not?
  12. Chieliee

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    dont know if it is posted already, but here is the new EXP formula(ill try to make it as easy-readable as possible):

    /a×t×b×e×L L+2\
    |------------ ×----- | +1
    \ 5×s Lp+2/
    EDIT: yea, i previewed the post, and i found out that they leave out spaces. Im just going to put the link here:

    http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/01/Delta_exp_gen5.png

    a is equal to 1 if the fainted Pokémon is wild, and 1.5 if the fainted Pokémon is owned by a Trainer.
    t is equal to 1 if the winning Pokémon's OT is its current owner, 1.5 if the Pokémon was gained in a domestic trade, and 1.7 if the Pokémon was gained in an international trade.
    b is the base experience yield of the fainted Pokémon's species, listed here.
    e is equal to 1.5 if the winning Pokémon is holding a Lucky Egg, and 1 otherwise.
    L is the level of the fainted Pokémon.
    Lp is the level of the victorious Pokémon.
    s is the number of Pokémon that participated in the battle and have not fainted. If any Pokémon in the party is holding an Exp. Share, s is equal to 2, and for the rest of the Pokémon, s is equal to twice the number of Pokémon that participated instead.
  13. j99ubers

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    Does this mean that an Arceus without a plate can also make use of trick this gen?
  14. Zephyr

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    That's the assumption. I would test it myself to be sure if I had B/W.
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  16. Zebstrika

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    When battling on Wi-fi with team preview, are those icons like the ones used on PO shown? If that is the case, a few pokemon have form differences that are so subtle they aren't shown by the icon. The only time this matters competitively is to tell if Genesect has a cassette, and what kind it has if it does have one.
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    Yeah, meaning you can't tell what Arceus forme it is.
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    Hi, I'm sure someone has already posted this (though I couldn't find a mention), but I just discovered that EV training is now possible at Lv. 100 thanks to the EV wings.
  19. Agonist

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    that was discovered within a couple days of the games release
  20. Antar

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    Yeah, I figured, but I wasn't sure...
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    In addition to that, level 100 Pokemon now gain EVs through normal battling, so you don't even need the wings.
  22. Zebstrika

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    Really? Then what's this from?
    Edit: Oops, it says "overworld sprite"
  23. ΩDonut

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    Can anybody test Freefall in Rotation Battles? I recently saw a Battle Recorder vid where a Wargle picked up a Kojondo with Freefall, but then Kojondo was rotated out, both Pokemon came down, and Kojondo took no damage.
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    Looking back at these, I've tested Miracle Skin as well to see if it fell under this mystery flag, just as Mental Herb was tested (and failed...) for it.

    What I found is that everything Mental Herb blocks, Miracle Skin ALSO has a 50% chance to block, just like major Status.

    So Miracle Skin is a 1/2 efficient Lum Berry + Mental Herb. What needs to still be done is compile an entire list of what Mental Herb actually cures.
  25. Zebstrika

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    So Miracle Skin can prevent confusion?

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