While I can see that we are going to need a physical attacker for sure, do we need the rest? Did we decide the theme of the team was to have a balanced set up and not an all out nukefest? Meloetta works under any weather, same with Thundurus-T so rain is not necessarily a given yet welcome should the team come up against it.
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Counter This Pokemon [ginganinja vs TEMP V1]
- Thread starter Nix_Hex
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No, we haven't decided it yet - but Chandelure pretty much shoehorns us into "all out nukefest".
It's always nice to have options.
Okay guys, thank you for the submissions and fruitful discussion, glad to see everyone is still playing along, and I'm looking forward to newcomers. If you haven't posted here, don't be afraid, just make sure to read the OP and some of the suggestions to see how this all works! Now, onto the voting.
Arcticblast's Espeon
SuperChillarmy's Xatu
Ithilanor's Lucario
Pocket's Scizor
namehtmas's Mamoswine
ganj4lF's Vaporeon
ginganinja's Genesect
PapaBearAd's Chansey
Xelacalle's Keldeo
ClubbingSealCub's Metagross
Skore's Chandelure
You know how this work. Only vote for one, you may vote if you submitted a set. Don't be afraid to vote for your own, but be sure to read each submission carefully and look through the links below (Resources). Your post should consist of the poster's name in bold. For example, if I wanted to vote for namehtmas's Mamoswine, I would simply post:
namehtmas
That's literally all you should post. As usual, no complaining and no submitting other sets. Time limit is pending. Also, all of you guy's have really hard names!!! I'm looking at you too, ginganinja.
Resources that may influence your vote, so read first:
Xelacalle's ramblings on picking the right partner (definitely read this!)
Electrolyte critiquing some submissions (Espeon through Metagross)
Arcticblast's Espeon
SuperChillarmy's Xatu
Ithilanor's Lucario
Pocket's Scizor
namehtmas's Mamoswine
ganj4lF's Vaporeon
ginganinja's Genesect
PapaBearAd's Chansey
Xelacalle's Keldeo
ClubbingSealCub's Metagross
Skore's Chandelure
You know how this work. Only vote for one, you may vote if you submitted a set. Don't be afraid to vote for your own, but be sure to read each submission carefully and look through the links below (Resources). Your post should consist of the poster's name in bold. For example, if I wanted to vote for namehtmas's Mamoswine, I would simply post:
namehtmas
That's literally all you should post. As usual, no complaining and no submitting other sets. Time limit is pending. Also, all of you guy's have really hard names!!! I'm looking at you too, ginganinja.
Resources that may influence your vote, so read first:
Xelacalle's ramblings on picking the right partner (definitely read this!)
Electrolyte critiquing some submissions (Espeon through Metagross)
At the risk of looking like a narcissistic douche...
ClubbingSealCub
But come on, we're talking about Metagross here.
PD: Petition to rename Team 1 to "Ginganinja's Team" if Genesect gets chosen
ClubbingSealCub
But come on, we're talking about Metagross here.
PD: Petition to rename Team 1 to "Ginganinja's Team" if Genesect gets chosen
ClubbingSealCub
PapabearAd
Ginganinja
Cos im sexy
Cos im sexy
Type it out as nigganinja then if it makes you happy!
ginjaninja
Tough choice as both Genesect and Metagross are great options in terms of synergy. However, only one gives us some bulk that's absolutely needed to handle a possible Specs Latios, (among other heavy hitters) still sticks it to his sister, Latias, and even has priority to boot:
ClubbingSealClub
ClubbingSealClub
ClubbingSealCub
ClubbingSealCub
As much as I like myself, going with ClubbingSealCub here.
Remember, we can always re-suggest Genesect!
Remember, we can always re-suggest Genesect!
ginganinja
All right, the votes are in and it appears to be a close match.
ClubbingSealCub's Metagross: 10
ginganinja's Genesect: 7
PapaBearAd's Chansey: 1
ganj4lF's Vaporeon: 1
Please welcome, courtesy of ClubbingSealCub, Team #1's 3rd Pokemon!
Metagross @ Choice Band
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Trait: Clear Body
Adamant Nature
~ Meteor Mash
~ Bullet Punch
~ Pursuit
~ Earthquake
Here are the current team line-ups:
Now, we're moving back to Team 2 in order to pick its 3rd Pokemon. Please suggest one set per person including the Pokemon's name, sprite, item, EVs, ability, nature, and moves. You have a dayish. Go!
ClubbingSealCub's Metagross: 10
ginganinja's Genesect: 7
PapaBearAd's Chansey: 1
ganj4lF's Vaporeon: 1
Please welcome, courtesy of ClubbingSealCub, Team #1's 3rd Pokemon!
Metagross @ Choice Band
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Trait: Clear Body
Adamant Nature
~ Meteor Mash
~ Bullet Punch
~ Pursuit
~ Earthquake
Here are the current team line-ups:
Meloetta / Thundurus-T / Metagross
Celebi / Heatran
Now, we're moving back to Team 2 in order to pick its 3rd Pokemon. Please suggest one set per person including the Pokemon's name, sprite, item, EVs, ability, nature, and moves. You have a dayish. Go!
Starting this off...
Tyranitar@Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Stream
Evs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 Hp
Jolly/Adamant Nature
-Crunch
-Pursuit
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
Scarf Tyranitar is a great addition to team 2, for many reasons. Scarf Tyranitar has fallen out of favor with many recently, but it always packs a wallop for those unprepared for a fast sand-godzilla.
Team two is set up to go sand well, as celebi is a staple on sand teams and heatran is also beneficial in sand. This also all but forces team 1 to go rain, to support Thundurus-T.
Tyranitar can deal great damage to all three members, while out-speeding them as well (except pirouette form) with an Adamant nature (assuming speed rounds up, I think it does). It obviously cleanly KOs Thundurus-T with Stone Edge, KOs non-pirouette Meloetta with Crunch and deals a fairly clean 3hko to Metagross with Crunch, and 2hkos with Earthquake.
Tyranitar will also provide team 2 with some speed, something it sorely lacks currently with Celebi and Heatran as the members. Tyranitar also pairs well with Celebi's Thunder Wave, as if Meloetta gets paralyzed, Tyranitar can trap it with ease.
Tyranitar@Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Stream
Evs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 Hp
Jolly/Adamant Nature
-Crunch
-Pursuit
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
Scarf Tyranitar is a great addition to team 2, for many reasons. Scarf Tyranitar has fallen out of favor with many recently, but it always packs a wallop for those unprepared for a fast sand-godzilla.
Team two is set up to go sand well, as celebi is a staple on sand teams and heatran is also beneficial in sand. This also all but forces team 1 to go rain, to support Thundurus-T.
Tyranitar can deal great damage to all three members, while out-speeding them as well (except pirouette form) with an Adamant nature (assuming speed rounds up, I think it does). It obviously cleanly KOs Thundurus-T with Stone Edge, KOs non-pirouette Meloetta with Crunch and deals a fairly clean 3hko to Metagross with Crunch, and 2hkos with Earthquake.
Tyranitar will also provide team 2 with some speed, something it sorely lacks currently with Celebi and Heatran as the members. Tyranitar also pairs well with Celebi's Thunder Wave, as if Meloetta gets paralyzed, Tyranitar can trap it with ease.