Those gems, afaik, aren't released. Only the Normal Gem has been so perhaps that's why.
But yeah, Heatran hurts her too. It's just that there's no reason to run Delphox over Victini (OK, maybe if you want to steal Life Orbs from the opponent, but I'd rather use Knock Off for that). If it falls to RU, it might be decent in a FWG core with Slowking and Tangrowth, but it has to compete with fellow Fire-types such as Moltres, and fellow Psychic-types such as Slowking and Gardevoir. If it falls all the way to NU, it'll at least have a way through Absol and Skuntank, though it won't be able to take any hits from Sawk or Primeape, and there's no good Spinners in NU.
There is a 0% chance that Absol will be NU this gen. Minor nitpick, but yeah.
Absol and Gardevoir are going to be UU this gen, unless there's made a "Pokemon with Mega Forms are allowed in lower tiers so long as they don't have their stone" rule.
I would not be so sure about that. Absol, probably at least UU. Gardevoir has cool things going for it, but its physical frailty holds it back.
There is plenty of reasons to use Delphox over Victini. Delphox is slightly faster and has more sp. attack. Unless I plane on using Victini as a physical attacker(like I really need more of those), I'll take the fox any day.
Please please please read the thread, man. I think every page of this thread has at least one post at this point saying why Victini outclasses Delphox offensively. Recap: Even though Delphox has higher SpA, it don't mean beans because Victini's going to be doing more damage with its higher BP moves (even as a special sweeper) on everything except psyshock/psychic. And the +4 to speed means nothing, since you don't outspeed anything important that Victini doesn't already.
Seeing as how my previous post got deleted...
Unfortunately, Smogon's policy makers have taken the position that Megas are a set and not a Pokemon. I wish they would actually consider otherwise, since it's a big game-changing mechanic and not a gimmick of one Pokemon like Meloetta last gen, but it's too bad. All they've been doing is banning the Mega Stones as items, like Soul Dew. It's going to be unintuitive when they get to writing Gengar's analysis page but that's what they've decided. Sorry for going off topic
That's exactly what I'm talking about. If the Mega is banned refers to if the Stone gets banned. There is no such thing as a guarantee Absol or Gardevoir will be above certain tiers, because if Absolite ends up BL2 then Absol may very well end up in NU.
How is Delphox better defensively? Just asking, since Victini has much better defenses. Wish isn't too reliable either. Not that anyone every tries to use defensive Victini (or defensive Delphox for that matter).
Wish, Magic Coat, Toxic, WoW, Hypnosis, and Switcharoo are all defensive moves of Delphox. If Delphox got Recover dat would be good, Something like Wish | Protect | WoW | Psychic / Fire move would work. I'll try that and I'll come back after a few battles.
That won't affect Absol's tiering because it's based on usage in OU.
Garchomp and it's comedic 102 speed. It still whups them both, but yeah.
Still waiting for pokemon of worth Delphox outspeeds that it can actually do something to with its 4MSS.........that victini cant
Well yeah. That's why I said it doesn't outspeed anything important. Since you brought up Garchomp, one of Garchomp's biggest selling point was that it's +2 to speed allowed it to outspeed and KO the many 100 speed dragons, so the +2 to speed actually allowed it to reliably take out things it wouldn't be able to otherwise. Delphox and Victini aren't going to be taking on Garchomp no matter how much speed they gets unless things are really down to the wire, so the fact that you can outspeed garchomp isn't really a selling point. It sucks, because Delphox is one point away from tying with Mienshao and Mismagius. I feel like GF probably thought they were being generous with a 104 speed, but it really doesn't do anything for it that 100 or something else could do instead.
I disagree. Just because Delphox has (slightly) higher speed and special attack, does not mean it does that role better than Victini. Since you even admitted that Delpox is not going to be OU, its main foes/walls in UU will be Umbreon, Houndoom, and Chansey (maybe?). Unlike Delphox, Victini puts massive pressure on opposing teams because they will often think Victini is a physical one. So, a special Victini usually can punch massive holes in at least one pokemon before your opponent realizes that he/she needs to switch to a special wall. Moreover, in UU last gen, many people put V-Create on special Victini in order to get past special walls. And V-Create>>>>Psyshock considering that Umbreon is good and completely walls Delphox. Not to mention that Umbreon destroys Sub CM Delphox: it can always break Delphox subs with Foul Play and can heal up with Wish unless Delphox is at like +3. And Houndoom just plain walls Sub/non-Sub CM Delphox. Delphox REALLY needs Focus Blast...which Victini also has...
Grass Knot.
