lol "busy wasting our time" - thats such a clear little jab of disrespect towards the multiple members who are actually voting BL that i dont really know what to say except being a council member means "respecting others opinions while trying to convince them otherwise"
ps your hippo paras are absurd lol and i wasnt really going to mention anything but come on, you make an inane comparison of hippo to zam and barely mention SANDSTORM and its effect on the meta.
Sorry if I offended you or anyone else, but that's not what I meant at all. This is not about whether or not
we (the senate) think it's broken, it's our responsibility as members to address the issues that are being presented by the community. Hippowdon is not being cried out for in particular, even if Sandstorm is. My point is that there are more or equally pressing issues that need to be discussed (Sandstorm as a whole, Sand Veil/Snow Cloak), and currently we have spent an insane amount of time talking/not talking about Hippowdon. Hence, a waste of time whether or not we think it's broken.
To your severely uncalled for public hostility to my paragraphs (which are actually supported by calculations, experience, and logic), I'll simply say that I don't think you fully read or understand them, or you're just grasping for a way to dismiss the arguments presented (but I don't think this is the case since you're a senate member). I say this because I very clearly explain the benefits and detriments of Sandstorm....and why I so closely focused on Hippowdon as a Pokemon. Maybe my paragraphs seem absurd to you because you are illogically lumping Hippowdon and Sandstorm into the same category, but they are two different things. Sandstorm is a field condition
caused by more than one Pokemon to the exact same extent. This is like saying Froslass is broken simply because Froslass has Spikes. A reasonable person is not going to focus on it solely having Spikes because other Pokemon have Spikes. You need to focus on what makes it that much better than just a "Pokemon with Spikes".
I hope you take that into consideration when you vote and write your paragraphs. Maybe you'd rather just ban Sandstorm? There's a big difference between finding paragraphs absurd and disagreeing, hopefully you can realize that.
Note: you took the Alakazam comparison a little too literally. In the case of overall effectiveness, Alakazam is way better from that perspective (and while this is subjective it is supported by numbers). I don't think you really understood it as "Alakazam has 369 SpA and Hippow only has 360 Def so Alakazam is better".
@ Pocket
Yea I agree we should be more transparent. It's just kind of annoying that we take forever to talk about something on IRC and the "discussion" passes on the forum by that point. Hopefully this post (well, the bulk of it) is a start.
Anyway, I mostly agree with your approach to Hippowdon, but I'm taking a bigger step back and saying "
if there is a problem, then clearly we should be focusing on
all the aspects of it rather than one". We are talking about Hippowdon where we should be talking about Sandstorm as a whole.
