Hmm, interesting. You should try the Calm Mind set with Thunderbolt / Psyshock / Hidden Power Ice, because Tyrniatr doesn't seem like a problem on this Sun Offense team to deal with Hippowdon and Politoed. The EVs should consist of 252 HP / 252 Def with Bold Nature. This also lets you beat opposing Dugtrio, which is a problem on this team, since it traps and KOs Ninetales.
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Would Grass Knot be a good option on this set? Does a better job against Hippowdon and let's you do more damages to Tyranitar, unless i'm missing something.
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Banned deucer.
Gothitelle is generally an entirely niche mon: you give it whatever moves, etc. to ko what you need to ko.
If your concerns are the sand starters, than grass knot/hpfighting with choice specs would be the best option
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I'm going to watch the replay and just explain what I would have done in the situation and reasons why
Turn 1: I would have used fire blast/ flamethrower (whichever you have) over solar beam as it would have done more damage to every member of the enemy team with STAB and the Sun boost and also 3/6 of the enemy pokemon resist solar beam and all are neutral to flamethrower/FB
--however, the best option would have probably been to switch in heatran then immediately switched in mence to scout the super power and then kill it with mence if it has super power or heatran if it doesn't
Turn 2: ^
Turn 3: he is using special attakcs so burning isnt bery significant
Turn 4-5: most elektross carry flame thrower so your grass types were pretty risky options to switch in, I was surprised though when you ko'd with sledge though.
Turn 6: your best bet would have been to use a stab move (i assume giga drain) as opposed to trying to stall it out with leech seed. I would have put in heatran after as opposed to salamence because you probably could have gotten more damage off
Turn 7-8: fine
Turn 9: no reason to switch really, he didn't have balloon so you were fine.
Turn 10-11: fine
Turn 12: I would have used return over jump kick because it would do more damage to both haxorus and swellow. Also, bastiodon probably would be KO'd either way. Last, gengar could have been switched in in which case you would have lost 50% of your hp because you missed.
Turn 13: ^
Turn 14: you should have noticed by now that your opponent isnt keen on switching and just fired off another return, however heatran would have been a better answer to haxorus
Turn 15: probably should have used psychic over wood hammer becase it would do much more damage to the whole team
Turn 16: good choice :D
Turn 17: Believe it or not, overheat would do MORE damage to swellow (even outstide the sun)
Overheat effective base power: 140*1.5*1.5 (STAB and sun) = 315
Hidden power ice effective base power: 70*2 = 140
Turn 18-19: good.......... crits >.>
Turn 20: good
Turn 21: should have switched to eggs to sac him so sawsbuck could sweep
Turn 22: You did what I suggested last turn, you got lucky he protected
Turn 23: see Turn 15
Turn 24: should have gone with sawsbuck
25 and on: fine
One suggestion for your team would be to make overheat fire blast on heatran. Also I would reccomend either making eggs a special based set, or scrap it for something else like darmanitan or shiftry.
Not bad for a beginner :D
A small question about Custap Lead Skarm.
Lets say you're in a good scenario where you're able to get a least 1 layer of Spikes and SR with Skarm still relatively healthy. Now I understand that he's naturally played as a suicide lead attempting to set-up as many hazards before he goes down, but are there certain scenarios where it'd be smarter to use Whirlwind to rack out some early damage rather than get another layer of Spikes up for later damage?
Another question. Let's say your team has a good advantage over the opponent in that you don't need a lot of hazards on the field to win. Is it a good idea to switch out a relatively healthy Skarm after you set up 1/1 Spikes/SR in order to be a later check/phazer to some attackers? Or is it naturally a better idea to max out on hazards in most cases?
Lets say you're in a good scenario where you're able to get a least 1 layer of Spikes and SR with Skarm still relatively healthy. Now I understand that he's naturally played as a suicide lead attempting to set-up as many hazards before he goes down, but are there certain scenarios where it'd be smarter to use Whirlwind to rack out some early damage rather than get another layer of Spikes up for later damage?
Another question. Let's say your team has a good advantage over the opponent in that you don't need a lot of hazards on the field to win. Is it a good idea to switch out a relatively healthy Skarm after you set up 1/1 Spikes/SR in order to be a later check/phazer to some attackers? Or is it naturally a better idea to max out on hazards in most cases?
Skarmory doesnt run whirlwind when its using the custap lead set. The entire point of this set is just to setup hazards, taunt slower support mons and suicide with brave bird. Custap lead skarmory runs a physically offensive spread that prevents it from doing anything late game as well as it will lack the bulk to survive most attacks. Overall just setup your hazards and die, theres no need to preserve your skarmory if its the lead set.
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Antar compiled a list of leads from May's useage statistics:
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| Rank | Pokemon | Usage % | Raw | % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + --------- + ------ + ------- +
| 1 | Politoed | 8.26117% | 144672 | 6.744% |
| 2 | Tyranitar | 4.32535% | 78617 | 3.665% |
| 3 | Rotom-Wash | 4.23736% | 51360 | 2.394% |
| 4 | Ninetales | 4.04611% | 89595 | 4.177% |
| 5 | Ferrothorn | 3.24587% | 71139 | 3.316% |
| 6 | Landorus-Therian | 3.18945% | 33043 | 1.540% |
| 7 | Breloom | 2.94850% | 46404 | 2.163% |
| 8 | Skarmory | 2.65882% | 50106 | 2.336% |
| 9 | Jirachi | 2.53124% | 33930 | 1.582% |
| 10 | Forretress | 2.45875% | 57264 | 2.670% |
| 11 | Garchomp | 2.18663% | 33856 | 1.578% |
| 12 | Hippowdon | 2.11582% | 32987 | 1.538% |
| 13 | Scizor | 2.03587% | 33428 | 1.558% |
| 14 | Heatran | 2.00192% | 30962 | 1.443% |
| 15 | Terrakion | 1.87817% | 23330 | 1.088% |
| 16 | Mamoswine | 1.75974% | 23540 | 1.097% |
| 17 | Infernape | 1.72467% | 35646 | 1.662% |
| 18 | Latios | 1.64799% | 23247 | 1.084% |
| 19 | Donphan | 1.58714% | 25562 | 1.192% |
| 20 | Dragonite | 1.52049% | 31003 | 1.445% |
| 21 | Jolteon | 1.47134% | 31325 | 1.460% |
| 22 | Celebi | 1.39428% | 17979 | 0.838% |
| 23 | Landorus | 1.17238% | 12795 | 0.596% |
| 24 | Gengar | 1.15278% | 32859 | 1.532% |
| 25 | Thundurus-Therian | 1.13337% | 17272 | 0.805% |
| 26 | Gliscor | 1.06540% | 26586 | 1.239% |
| 27 | Cloyster | 1.00246% | 42613 | 1.987% |
| 28 | Keldeo | 0.97115% | 13792 | 0.643% |
| 29 | Abomasnow | 0.94933% | 20116 | 0.938% |
| 30 | Starmie | 0.91981% | 21028 | 0.980% |
| 31 | Espeon | 0.91587% | 28302 | 1.319% |
| 32 | Sableye | 0.86179% | 21037 | 0.981% |
| 33 | Volcarona | 0.84840% | 22856 | 1.066% |
| 34 | Azelf | 0.82116% | 13066 | 0.609% |
| 35 | Smeargle | 0.81248% | 23942 | 1.116% |
| 36 | Alakazam | 0.80737% | 20829 | 0.971% |
| 37 | Gyarados | 0.78845% | 17388 | 0.811% |
| 38 | Ninjask | 0.77538% | 39808 | 1.856% |
| 39 | Dugtrio | 0.74315% | 12528 | 0.584% |
| 40 | Kyurem-Black | 0.73275% | 11565 | 0.539% |
| 41 | Victini | 0.69813% | 10541 | 0.491% |
| 42 | Metagross | 0.67503% | 19284 | 0.899% |
| 43 | Conkeldurr | 0.67168% | 14521 | 0.677% |
| 44 | Hydreigon | 0.66578% | 16350 | 0.762% |
| 45 | Mew | 0.65514% | 13399 | 0.625% |
| 46 | Machamp | 0.62898% | 14951 | 0.697% |
| 47 | Salamence | 0.62033% | 18956 | 0.884% |
| 48 | Magnezone | 0.59609% | 10487 | 0.489% |
| 49 | Mienshao | 0.56626% | 11546 | 0.538% |
| 50 | Aerodactyl | 0.55644% | 15262 | 0.711% |Honestly though, leads aren't that important unless you are playing Hyper-Offensively, just lead with your weather / rocks setter / a counter to what you think they will bring in and you should be good most of the time.
I have and I'm on the list. It still wont let me post in the blind voting thread.
Thanks, sorry.
This could of been said of Outrage in gen 4... we tend not to ban moves unless it is really necessary.
That said, some top users have considered this, however the generation is almost over to it is unlikely to go anywhere.
Thundurus-T, Dragonite, Kyurem-B, Garchomp and some likely others would rise up to that spot.
Depends on if you have a hidden power, as 0 ivs will decrease Hidden Power's power, you can look up an IV set to minimize your attack yet have 70 power on PO if you have it.
If you don't have a hidden power, go ahead.
And since I am a nice guy, here is the Latios IV spread for minimum attack with HP-fire:
31 / 2 / 31 / 30 / 31 / 30
Hydreigon included? I mean, the guy has no counters...
I prefer to face Dragonite instead of Hydreigon. Hydreigon is better Mixed than Dragonite(except Dragonite has Hurricane which nobody never uses it, because relies on Rain)
Hydreigon is also harder to take down by residual damage(no SR weak) and is not weak x4 to anything. Dragonite, because usually runs Physical sets, is walled by Slowbro and Hippowdon, among (few) others.
I think Kyu-B should be Suspect and Thundurus-T too but because Nasty Plot annoys stall, but it is another discussion.
Having no counters does not make a mon great. Hydreigon is an example of a mon that was unfortunately given low speed and quite bad defensive typing, making it a generally subpar choice. If we consider the current state of the metagame, a mon like Hydreigon is generally far too slow to keep up, and its defensive typing doesn't do it many favors, limiting switch in opportunities. Against slower teams, Hydreigon is better, but it still doesn't have enough going for it to be the best mon in OU, not even close.
Taking Keldeo as an example, we can note it has several counters, but that does not prevent it from being the best mon in OU atm. No counters =/= top mon. Hydreigon will still remain at the bottom of the OU barrel.
Well, good partners are those who can help it get one of the boosts it needs. Against faster teams, Terrakion lacks the raw muscle to beat them, unless you get both boost, of course, so a powerful wall-breaker is good. Choice Specs Latios has amazing synergy with Terrakion, since it gets rid of Breloom, but not Scizor, so you'll want like Heatran for that, and also, Tyranitar and Hippowdon give Terrrakion the SpD boost in the Sandstorm effects to give it easier time getting boosts. Againt slower teams, you'd want to remove its counters that resist its STAB, and also Latias, so Scizor and Choice Band Tyranitar work.