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Pokémon XY General Discussion

Discussion in 'Orange Islands' started by Stellar, May 10, 2013.

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  1. DHR-107

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    Orange Islands

    Dec 26, 2008
    Been reading back a few pages to the map, has no one else mentioned that the Windmill seems to drive the snow down that valley? The snow line is really peculiar if it is falling willy nilly from the mountains.

    The only explanation is the building that looks like a windmill is actually forcing the snow down the valley to the south of the town. That therefore ends up being driven all the way down to the small snowey town in the south east of the region.

    I'm pretty interested in analysing the map as much as possible, I know some people have pointed out some of the towns/islands/forests etc, but I'm more interested in the caves and waterways. And also that peculiar blue building right over in the east which I know some people have talked about.

    EDIT: Probably won't get noticed but just found this image:
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    There is also another one with it overlaying on northern France almost perfectly (Which no one is really shocked about).
  2. RabidChipmunk


    Jul 18, 2012
    I'm guessing that rather than the standard "rodent," our early-game Normal type for this region could possibly be Helioptile. I mean, he's part Normal, and I have a sneaking suspicion that Game Freak is introducing a bunch of boring, early game Pokemon for now and revealing the cooler stuff later (hence them also revealing the standard Normal/Flying type). If that's true, it could show at least some effort on Game Freak's part to shake up the more rigid parts of their formula at least a little bit... 17 years too late, I might add, but hey, baby steps people.
  3. LonelyWolf


    Feb 8, 2013
    Well, long time since I've posted here...
    I would like to have some deeper discussion about the Kalos region.

    With a quick look these are first things that pop up:
    - It clearly is based on France. The shape of the land, the eiffel tower approximately there where Paris would be, rivers and so on. Of course little spiced up with deserts, mountains and glaciers.
    - I'm glad to assume, that this time playthrough of the game is far from linear! I believe no one knows where the starting city is placed, but none the less it seems almost impossible to make playthrough so straightforward. All the rivers and roads connecting cities seems to form a kind of "web".

    Well, then the further analysis. (I apologize if some of these are mentioned earlier):
    - I calculated total of 14 cities. One of which must be Pokemon League. I would love to find someone with great photoshop skills to circle all the assumed cities from the image with red, highlight rivers with blue and roads with green and so on. That would also help the discussion about the matter.
    - I can see 3 visible caves in the region. One huge cavesystem with at least 5 entrances at the south-west of the region. Then one located north from aforementioned, another side of the river. Then finally another huge cave at north-east, which seems to be kind of Ice cave. I'm quite satisfied of the amount and especially about the locations of them. (I'm referring to Sinnoh, which I loathed when talking about caves)
    - We've seen game footage taken in the forest. There seems to be quite many forests, do you believe the major of them are in use, or just aesthetics?
    - There are so many little details that I'm really delighted about! The lighthouse, stonehenge like of thing, some wooden structure, a lonely island, some large water container, hydroelectric power-plant(s) (???), wind turbines... There's that purple thingie at the glacier... The lonely green blob at south-east... WOW... Last generation was almost just bridges after bridges, but this..!
    - I don't believe it's possible to say which ones are gym-cities or which ones have certainly some special meaning. I'd welcome some opinions about this. Only thing what I can assume "for sure", is that there's going to be ice-type gym.

    I'm sure I forgot about something, but you can add it up!

    Now to the new pokemons:
    - Pancham: First thought - awesome. It reminds me of this fakemon. Final evo Grass/Fighting?
    - Fletchling: Nice touch in my opinion. I would love to believe there's a deeper idea behind this one. I mean: It starts out as Normal/Flying, but it'd evolve into Fire/Flying? It learns Flame Charge, but yeah, I know the idea is a bit farfetched.
    - Gogoat: I like the desing. I wonder will it evolve further, or is this its final form...
    - Helioptile: Looks like a total derp. But yeah, typing is a nice touch and its evolution might be something spectacular!

    That's all I and my son had to share with you!
  4. CyberDagger


    Feb 14, 2013
    I seem to remember reading that you go back to your house to change clothes.
  5. Saezar


    Mar 13, 2013
    Sorry for jumping in,but i got this itch about riding Pokèmons...

    If they made PKMNs ride-able,then it might be possible to apply the same concept to Surfing/Flying... (Like seeing the ACTUAL PKMN for ONCE,damnit!)

    I mean,it's all a wild speculation but I hope/guess it could be since:

    1)With all the goddamn rivers,the surfing would get on the nerves quickly (at least for me it would >_>).

    2)The fact that the source said something about a Flying/levitate PKMNs only battle style.

    3) Yvetal would IDEALLY (but it could be total BS,since i'm only basing on the boxart background pic) be found in the skies of Kalos.

    Or they could just go Full-Rayquaza.

    And in the end,how could Riding affect battles?
  6. EJ190


    Mar 13, 2013
    If you can change clothes then where do u get them?
    -Do you buy them, get them as gifts, are they prizes for ingame events or for participating in vgc tournaments?
    I can see nitendo doing the last like with the c-gear skins.
    Im really happy with the new map. Its waaaay more colourful than unova bland green.
  7. Asbestospoison


    Jan 7, 2012
    I'm hoping we can get gym leader outfits, and maybe even older protag's cloths as downloads (like c-gear skins). Either way I might play as a girl because of this.
  8. Farobi


    Apr 22, 2012

    I was just checking out some YouTube videos and have fallen upon this certain image. I have screenshot the image because it has intrigued me for quite a while. This "possible Pokemon" left of the lamppost seems to be some sort of a pre-evo of Gogoat, as they prove to have a similar color scheme and almost similar structure, though it seems more bear-like so I may be wrong. What are your thoughts on this guys?
  9. Yveltal


    Jan 11, 2013
    It says on the website "you can go back any time", so they would likely mean go back home, but the location that you change clothes at isn't specified. If it is home, then maybe we get clothes the same way we got room accessories in GSC, where you could leave your mom money and she'll buy you stuff every now and then that you could only obtain/use when you went back home.

    I thought they were just hedges, but a closer inspection does show that they are made up of the bare-basics color scheme for Gogoat. If it is a prevo, it looks like there are two? One has a white head, and the other has a brown forehead, so if it's not only a Gogoat baby, but two babies sitting together, maybe they're both Gogoat babies and Gogoats have gender differences. But if that/those is/are Pokemon, what are they doing on the street alone? Where is their trainer? Or is it that some Pokemon are quite harmless to civilians and are allowed to roam around the city?
    ...Will we get to see interacbtible roaming Pokemon all over Lumiose City, if this is true?

    One more note. the Pokedex lists Fennekin as Central, so since it's not tied to the mountain region, that may/may not debunk the journey theories from the last couple of pages about finding specific Pokemon first based on what starter you go with. Serebii says that Central, Coastal and Mountain refers to the middle, West and East parts of the region. Looking back at the map, the region is split quite nicely into three discernable sections, with the landmarks and roads in the middle of the region forming a pointed triangle/spire of sorts within the assumed boundaries of the Central area.
  10. Sgt.Moose


    Oct 17, 2010
    Yeah, it seems there is two Pokemon there laying around. White headed is clearly a sheep.
  11. Farrac


    Jan 25, 2013
    I don't recall Hiro saying that. Where did you hear it? I just checked his twitter account and found nothing.

    Btw, I really like the idea of the tower of Lumiose being the Pokemon League.
  12. b2j135


    Apr 16, 2009

    so...after watching this...what do you guys think?
  13. Chaoswalker


    Mar 20, 2010
    This star shaped region... does it seems to suggest to anyone else some... nonlinearity? There is what looks like something of a central city....
  14. Gokuzbu


    Jun 29, 2012
    I'm really interested in being able to change clothes. It only took Gamefreak over a decade lol.
  15. btdamron


    Feb 15, 2013

    I thought it was the wing and tail of a pidgey??? The Harryamma (misspelled...) doesn't even fit.
  16. Trainer Yusuf

    Trainer Yusuf

    Sep 13, 2012
    People compared it to Pidgey, Spearow and Hariyama. Neither of them fit %100.

    Also, Hiro's post is here.

    Edit: Ok, I am a slowpoke, but everybody posted individual comparison images but not a complete one? What.
  17. Narutendo3


    Nov 2, 2012
    DHR, I was actually wonding about the strange placement of snow down from the mountain too. Interesting theory, it makes sense to me.

    That video from gamexplain was pretty helpful. It certainly cleared up a lot for me.

    And unfortunately, it seems the starting town is actually in the south again. That's based on the image DHR posted, as well as what's posted on the official site about customization. It looks like they were trying to say you change clothes in your room, and they showed that spot from the image DHR posted when they referred to returning to change.
  18. PME


    Jan 29, 2013
    I thought I was the only one who noticed it since nobody else has discussed it. This purple crystalline-like structure just screams "Key event" to me.
  19. btdamron


    Feb 15, 2013
    Same here, I thought that may be where yveltal may be, but it is in ice...
  20. nikka


    Feb 3, 2013

    thank you for this. It really opened my eyes to some new things.

    also the purple crystal like structure isn't in the ice its right outside of it
  21. btdamron


    Feb 15, 2013
    Meh, close enough.
  22. Exbo


    Dec 6, 2012
    I could quote many more posts from previous pages but you get the picture.

    Can somebody please provide a link to the pokebeach rumors?

    Iirc the ONLY thing he got right so far was Helioptile's name. Fairy type, dual typed moves, EV-training mini-games etc are still just speculation.
    What am I missing here? What has Pokebeach said that has been confirmed?
  23. Codraroll

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    Nov 6, 2011
    I actually think there is one more cave. You see the aquaduct/railroad line to the very east? Slightly below it are three small isles in the river. Just to the left of the southernmost island, I see something that might be a small cave entrance. I'm not sure if it is a dead end or if other entrances can be seen with enough goodwill (for instance the ledge just above it, or the tiny pond slightly northeast), but I suspect it hides something interesting...

    Also, the glowing shrub to the southeast simply screams "HERE LIVES XERNEAS!" to me. At the very opposite side of the map (extreme northwest) is some sort of thingy in the forest. It could also be the dwelling of something legendary.

    EDIT: Just watched that video, and while I agree with them on most of the points, I think they've got the starter town wrong. Judging by the released screenshots, it seems like you'll actually start to the extreme south. All the screenshots apart from those of Lumiose City (and the desert) show the towns and routes directly south of Lumiose. I think the southernmost town will be your starting place, and then you venture north to Lumiose. From there on, it's a "spoked wheel" layout with dead ends, maybe apart from surfing on the rivers. I think Lumiose will be even more centralizing than Nimbasa was in Gen. V, with lots of facilities you'll keep visiting every day.
  24. R_N

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    Feb 21, 2010
    Have you thought about maybe
    just maybe

    going to pokebeach

    e: He also got Gogoat & Fletchling's name correct. I think Panchum was a typo of the actual name Pancham.
  25. Zowayix


    Oct 26, 2008
    Ok, I just saw that image for the first time, and the first Pokemon that came to mind was Flareon. How well does that fit?
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