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Discussion in 'Orange Islands' started by Stellar, May 10, 2013.
Well, we have Sylveon, I don't know about any other evolution though :)
New evolutions to old 'mons in a new Gen are like Lay's. Can't have just one. At least that's what the OP assumes.
The Kalos region looks so BIG. So many places to explore, and so many caves (and streams)... I wonder if those clouds are there for a particular reason (aka hiding something). Also I can't even make out an obvious way around, so hopefully the game isn't as linear as BW.
I like the idea of using that giant white city as a hub of sorts. New areas will open up later in the game, and you'll have to back-track sometimes, etc. Makes the region and traveling more dynamic. Also having plenty of optional areas is always something I enjoy.
I'm curious where that road/rail goes. It just kinda disappears underground... And how do you suppose we get to that giant castle on the hill? It's obviously connected to that area with the stairs via a cave, but how do you access that area? There is a hole in the center of it.
(Also I totally predicted Fairy type months ago)
Here's a bit of information that's pretty big so I hope it's alright if I post it:
Apparently, the source who was giving WPM of Pokebeach the Information got caught by the TPCi. However, WPM Will be releasing the Remaining information from the source that's now lost. Here's the full story, scroll down if you must: http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-yo-wpm-riding-info?pid=2435042#pid2435042
As for when Pokemon Smash airs:
Pokémon Smash airs in Japan from 7:30 am to 8:30 am (one hour) on Sunday (Japan's time zone is about half of a day ahead of the United States' time zones, so it would be Saturday afternoon in the US while it's Sunday morning in Japan.)
According to all of this, WPM will be releasing information Very Soon.
I don't think there was much information left. The person who was leaking it only gave it to two people (WPM and a another friend). After this happened, the other friend came out and released a few other tidbits of information, but admitted that this was all he had left:
There will be a BP 60 Fairy move that restores 100% of the damage it deals as HP to the user (he thinks it was called Draining Kiss)
There will also be a Poison-type move that requires the user to consume a berry. The guy took this to mean that berries must be more readily renewable, but I doubt that (Natural Gift does the same thing, even when they weren't)
He knew a bit about Pancham's evolution, but not much. All I remember him saying was it had a crotch-tuft too
You get a free Kanto starter from another professor. If I remember he said this happens within the main game
Gogoat is the only rideable Pokemon
At this point, this situation is pretty much fact. It seems that Fairy-type is real, with those resistances and immunities. I suppose now's a time to discuss these new elements?
Does anybody know how many hours till smash from now? And when WPM is releasing the rest of his info?
Going to be on Pokemon Smash, 19th May!
Everyone please see/ watch!
[link] for those on youtube.
I hope he doesn't troll us by only showing what's on CoroCoro =__=
The plot thinens...
so basically...AFTER ALL THAT and losing contact with the guy...everything that was leaked...WAS REAL!!??!
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ALL OF THIS IS LEGIT!!!!!
Which means...Fairy is real...the type chart WILL be updated and Dragons will finally fall from their peak...and we will be able to acquire a Kanto started form some Professor...oh man.
I just cannot wait to see this EV training facility!
ALL OF THIS IS LEGIT!!!!!
Some serious conclusions being jumped to in this thread imo.
Despite this series of drama, we sadly can't know if every single detail is true. Might it be? Yes, it may be. Might the guy have just disapeared on his own? He may. Might the 'original source' have play tested and ended up with some early game info? He may. Of course it's also possible that they play tested from start to finish, or even that he did some kind of art work for the english portion of the game and got shut up. I suppose if anything this does give him/her more credit.
I agree. I haven't seen anything indicating that those rumours are 100% true yet.
Anyway, if Fairy is a genuine new type, well if it is SE against Dragon then won't that make Ice types pretty much useless?
I mean, the fact that Ice is currently the only type SE against Dragon (other than Dragon itself) kind of makes up for the fact that it has loads of weaknesses and generally poor defences; its cons are balanced out by pros. If the rumours about Fairy are all true, then we have a type with those same pros but without any of those major cons, which essentially makes Ice a completely pointless type.
A new type could have finally fully balanced out the type chart, but IF these rumours are true then it will just create more imbalance, which will annoy me -.-
Or, maybe I'm wrong and I'm missing something; if so, point out what please. :)
I think not so, at least on the competitive metagame since many Dragon-types are 4x weak to Ice, and Ice would thus hit them harder than Fairy. So unless Fairy hits another common type for super-effective damage (such as Water, Steel or Fighting) or hits another type that Ice-type hits for super-effective damage, Fairy will not outclass Ice as a coverage type.
Wow 7 hours from now. Why even bother have it up at this point.
Thanks for the link. Now I can get my fill of "WTF Japan" tonight.
Sheesh, does this really bother you? This thread has slowed down so much, relatively, that it will probably only be like 1 page back by the time it airs.
Not talking about having it in the thread. Just in general it's odd/pointless for them to have the stream turned on this far ahead.
Normal Type is also inferior to Dragon in almost every aspect - and you still use them.
Dragon itself is not particualry strong (only SE vs. one type), its just that most Dragon Pokémons are BST 600 while there is no Ice Pokémon of 600 (except for regiice IIRC) which makes them pretty sucky in the long run.
I think nerfing an IMBA type is better than creating a new under balanced Type.
Just my two coins.
Those are both good points about the Ice type (although I actually DON'T use Normal types, so...).
Also, something I didn't think of earlier, is that Fairy's use would also depend on how widely distributed it was, and whether many Fairy types are competitively viable or not.
I guess I'm just worrying too much about a new type (IF it happens) turning the whole type chart into a biased, lopsided mess.
Dragon also has the benefit of resisting multiple types in fire grass water electric while only being hit super effectively by 2. It was a great defensive type and given the rarity of its first weakness dragon vs dragon was the best real option, thus making it a central type
I feel really sorry for those people involved...
Also, if there is indeed a new type, whether it be Fairy or something else, what would happen with Hidden Power? Are the combinations of the type of the Hidden Power going to be changed, or is it perhaps impossible to get Hidden Power [New type]? It would suck if your RNG'ed Hidden Power [Ice] Raikou from Gen V gets a suckish Hidden Power in Gen VI....
^Standard sets change every gen.
Been a while so im gonna post my 2 cents
It is possible that ice might get buffs-gf "fixed" the poison-bug issue in gen2. So ice could get some resistances this gen, but im not holding my breath.
The kalos map looks NOTHING like past gen maps. I rather like this cartoonish map with nearly invisible routes. U look at the map & it feels like u can explore every part of the region.
Also if p. charge hits all mons on the field imagine it in triple battle wth 5 liquid ooze tentacruels. :D
Of course they do. But still, a lot of pokemon have used Hidden Power [Ice/Fighting/Grass] for more than one generation, and changing the way HP is calculated can create some problems for these 'mons. RNGing in Gen VI is rather unlikely as of now, so it can create some problems for wifi teams or whatever.