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(QC 3/3) (GP 2/2) Hydreigon (Mixed)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by blunder, Feb 5, 2012.

  1. Jukain

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    Amateur GP Check (open)

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    Also making you a copypastable version because some of the spaces in my check are all fucked up, I'll copy paste it into Word to do that.
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    Hydreigon

    [SET]
    Name: Hydreigon (Mixed)
    Move 1: Draco Meteor
    Move 2: Earthquake
    Move 3: Outrage
    Move 4: Fire Blast
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Levitate
    Nature: Naive / Hasty
    EVs: 104 Atk / 240 SpA / 164 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>While Hydreigon is most often seen running an entirely special set, a mixed set is quite viable and unpredictable due to Hydreigon's vast movepool. While Hydreigon may seem overshadowed by Salamence and Dragonite for a Mixed set, this is not the case, as Hydreigon has high mixed attacking stats, coupled with a plethora of useful coverage moves. Hydreigon also possesses the bulk to take neutral and even some super effective hits because of its great 92 / 90 / 90 defenses. Draco Meteor is a powerful STAB move to take that takes advantage of Hydreigon's base 125 Special Attack. Few Pokemon in OU can take a Life Orb Bboosted Draco Meteor from Hydreigon, barring Ferrothorn and the pink eggs. Even Steel-types with decent Special Defense, like Scizor and Skarmory, can lose 50% of their health or more. With Earthquake, Hydreigon no longer has to risk using Focus Blast to deal with Heatran, as Earthquake OHKO's, with the added benefit of perfect accuracy. Specially Defensive Jirachi in Rain is also swiftly 2HKOed by Earthquake.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p> Hydreigon's EV Spread is meant to hit hard and still maintain a good decent Speed stat. 104 Atk EVs gives Hydreigon the ability to 2HKO Blissey / Chansey after Stealth Rocks. (A layer of Spikes is also required for the latter). 240 Special Attack EVs are used to abuse Hydreigon's best stat. 164 Speed EVs with a Speed boosting nature allows Hydreigon to outspeed all neutral base 100s running max Speed by one point. Crunch can be used to hit Reuniclus, Jellicent, and Espeon hard, but all 3 are destroyed by Outrage, so this isn't advised. Taunt is a good idea as it stops Blissey and Chansey from recovering or using a status move, also shutting down other walls so that Hydreigon can have an easier time sweeping. Focus Blast can be used over Earthquake to have a shot at OHKOing Non Chople Berry Tyranitar, but standard 252 / 0 Tyranitar is always 2HKOed by Earthquake anyway. An alternative EV spread can be used of taking special attack EVs away and placing them into speed. 192 Speed Evs and 228 Speed EVs give Hydreigon the ability to check Jolly Lucario and Jolly Gliscor respectively, but the drop in power is very noticable and undesirable.

    <p> Hydreigon is a great addition to any team as it can easily counter many threats in the OU metagame. Hydreigon, even with decent Speed investment is still outsped by key threats such as Infernape, Terrakion and the Lati twins. Jellicent resists all of Hydreigon's weaknesses, who also resists all of Jellicent's weaknesses, so Jellicent can easily take care of Terrakion or Infernape. Mamoswine is a good choice to check opposing dragons with priority Ice Shard that would otherwise outspeed and kill Hydreigon, mainly the Lati twins and Salamence. Gengar also works in this aspect as it can take Fighting-type moves aimed at Hydreigon and take out said Lati twins. Air Balloon Heatran is a decent check to this set as it can take any move with Air Balloon intact and cripple Hydreigon with Dragon Pulse or Hidden Power Ice. Mienshao, Infernape, and Terrakion all outspeed Hydreigon and easily finish it with their Powerful STAB Fighting-type attacks.

    Fixed a few missed capitalization errors in the copypastable, and also some -type errors, but otherwise it is no different. Your main problem is capitalization and word choice, along with some wording issues.

    Now this is all good and finished, Cheers!
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    In the copypastable, there are a few things you missed:
    So a lot of this stuff is coined jargon only known to Smogon, but it's a bit informal. You should check this out to help you in future GP checks. Nice work, though! Also, I'm not actually a GP member, nor do I really do amateur GP checks, so you can take this with a grain of salt until an actual GP member comes along.
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    Thanks for the feedback harsha, I'll be sure to consider that in the future.
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    [SET]
    name: Mixed
    move 1: Draco Meteor
    move 2: Earthquake
    move 3: Outrage
    move 4: Fire Blast
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Naive / Hasty
    evs: 104 Atk / 240 SpA / 164 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>While Hydreigon is almost always seen running a fully special set, a mixed one is quite viable and effective, not to mention unpredictable and surprising due to Hydreigon's huge movepool. One might think Salamence is the better mixed Dragon-type, but this is not the case as Hydreigon has amazing mixed attacking stats, coupled with access to a plethora of wonderful moves. Hydreigon also manages to take hits just as easily as it would on the other sets because of its great 92 / 90 / 90 defenses <is this true though? you're running a defense hindering nature..>. Draco Meteor is a powerful STAB move to take advantage of Hydreigon's wonderful base 125 Special Attack; outside of Ferrothorn and the pink eggs, almost nothing in OU can take a Life Orb-boosted Draco Meteor from Hydreigon. Even 252/0 <is this right?> Scizor and Skarmory lose at least 50% of their health to Draco Meteor. Earthquake no longer requires Hydreigon to rely on the inaccurate Focus Blast to 2HKO specially defensive Heatran, as it now OHKOes Heatran; specially defensive Jirachi is also swiftly 2HKOed. <aaaand outrage and fire blast?> </p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Hydreigon's EV spread lets it hit hard and maintain a good Speed stat. 104 Attack EVs give it the ability to 2HKO Blissey and Chansey with Outrage after Stealth Rock; a layer of Spikes is also needed for the latter. 164 Speed EVs and a Speed-boosting nature allow Hydreigon to outpace all neutral base 100 Speed foes, and the remaining 240 EVs are poured into Hydreigon's other offense and its best stat. Crunch can be used as a secondary STAB move to hit Reuniclus, Jellicent, and Espeon hard, but all three are destroyed by Outrage, so it isn't advised. Taunt can prevent walls such as Blissey and Chansey from recovering health or inflicting status on Hydreigon, shutting them down so that Hydreigon can have an easier time sweeping. Focus Blast can be used over Earthquake if the chance of OHKOing non-Chople Berry Tyranitar is important for your team, but standard 252/0 Tyranitar is always 2HKOed by Earthquake anyway. An alternative, speedier spread can be used by taking away Special Attack EVs; 192 and 228 Speed EVs give Hydreigon the ability to check Jolly Lucario and Jolly Gliscor respectively, but the drop in power is very noticeable and undesirable. <any examples of xhkos it misses?></p>

    <p>Hydreigon is a great addition to any team as it can easily counter many threats in the OU metagame, such as <examples (give about three or four?)>, to name a few. Even with its decent Speed, Hydreigon is still outsped by key threats such as Infernape, Terrakion, Latias, and Latios. Mienshao, Infernape, and Terrakion all outspeed Hydreigon and easily finish it with their powerful STAB Fighting attacks. Jellicent and Hydreigon share excellent type synergy, resisting all elemental types the other is weak to; additionally, Jellicent can easily take care of Terrakion and Infernape. Gengar is also a great partner as it can come in freely on Fighting-type moves aimed at Hydreigon, and also take out Latias and Latios.</p>

    <p>Opposing Dragon-types, such as Latias, Latios, and Salamence, can outspeed and destroy Hydreigon; Mamoswine can check them with its priority Ice Shard. Air Balloon Heatran is a decent check to this set as it can take any move with its Air Balloon intact and cripple Hydreigon with Dragon Pulse or Hidden Power Ice; <x> makes for a good switch-in to Heatran <or even better, suggest a way to lure and remove heatran?>. <also suggest some sweepers that can sweep after hydrei finishes wallbreaking / removes walls such as..?> </p>


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    ThunderBlunder, please apply sirndpt revisions. Then change your thread title to (GP 1/2) instead of (QC 3/3) so another GP member would give you the 2nd check!
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    The bit about Scizor and Skarmory losing at least 50% of their health is surprisingly true.
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    Second amateur GP check.

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    <p>While Hydreigon is almost always seen running a fully special set, a mixed one is quite viable and effective, not to mention unpredictable and surprising due to Hydreigon's huge movepool. One might think Salamence is the better mixed Dragon-type, but this is not the case as Hydreigon has amazing mixed attacking stats, coupled with access to a plethora of wonderful moves. Hydreigon also manages to take hits just as easily as it would on the other sets because of its great 92 / 90 / 90 defenses. Draco Meteor is a powerful STAB move to that takes advantage of Hydreigon's wonderful base 125 Special Attack; outside of Ferrothorn and the pink eggs, almost nothing in OU can take a Life Orb-boosted Draco Meteor from Hydreigon. Even 252/0 Scizor and Skarmory lose at least 50% of their health to taking a hit from Draco Meteor. Earthquake no longer requires Hydreigon to rely on the inaccurate Focus Blast to 2HKO specially defensive Heatran, as it now OHKOes Heatran; specially defensive Jirachi is also swiftly 2HKOed. Outrage Ddecimates Blissey, Jellicent, and Chansey, and Fire Blast Sswiftly Ddestroys Ddefensively Bbulky Steel types such as Ferrothorn and Forretress.

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Hydreigon's EV spread lets it hit hard and maintain a good Speed stat. 104 Attack EVs give it the ability to 2HKO Blissey and Chansey with Outrage after Stealth Rock; a layer of Spikes is also needed for the latter. 164 Speed EVs and a Speed-boosting nature allow Hydreigon to outpace all neutral base 100 Speed foes, and the remaining 240 EVs are poured into Hydreigon's other offense and its best stat. Crunch can be used as a secondary STAB move to hit Reuniclus, Jellicent, and Espeon hard, but all three are destroyed by Outrage, so it isn't advised. Taunt can prevent walls such as Blissey and Chansey from recovering health or inflicting status on Hydreigon, shutting them down so that Hydreigon can have an easier time sweeping. Focus Blast can be used over Earthquake if the chance of OHKOing non-Chople Berry Tyranitar is important for your team, but standard 252/0 Tyranitar is always 2HKOed by Earthquake anyway. An alternative, speedier spread can be used by taking away Special Attack EVs; 192 and 228 Speed EVs give Hydreigon the ability to check Jolly Lucario and Jolly Gliscor respectively, but the drop in power is very noticeable and undesirable.</p>

    <p>Hydreigon is a great addition to any team as it can easily counter many threats in the OU metagame, such as Ferrothorn, Jellicent, Lucario, Gliscor, and Skarmory, to name a few. Even with its decent Speed, Hydreigon is still outsped by key threats such as Infernape, Terrakion, Latias, and Latios. Mienshao, Infernape, and Terrakion all outspeed Hydreigon and easily finish it with their powerful STAB Fighting attacks. Jellicent and Hydreigon share excellent type synergy, resisting all elemental types the other is weak to each other's weaknesses; additionally, Jellicent can easily take care of Terrakion, Mienshao, and Infernape. Gengar is also a great partner as it can come in freely on Fighting-type moves aimed at Hydreigon, and also take out Latias and Latios.</p>

    <p>Opposing Dragon-types, such as Latias, Latios, and Salamence, can outspeed and destroy Hydreigon; Mamoswine can check them with its priority Ice Shard {Does Mamoswine help check anything else? Also, what can Hydreigon do for Mamoswine?}. Air Balloon Heatran is a decent check to this set as it can take any move with its Air Balloon intact and cripple Hydreigon with Dragon Pulse or Hidden Power Ice; <x>Gyarados makes for a good switch-in to Heatran. Once youone sees that Hydreigon is running a mixed set, a sSteel type can be switched in, then switched out into Heatran to net a Flash Fire Boost and Kill of proceed to knock out Hydreigon, while pertaining preserving the boost. <also suggest some sweepers that can sweep after hydrei finishes wallbreaking / removes walls such as..?> {Terrakion, Salamence, and Dragonite might be great mentions here.} </p>
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    ThunderBlunder, you can't just copy what sirn said. You need to actually add examples and things like that.
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    I apologize immensely for not checking on this thread as my computer has been in maintenance. I will apply the changes
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    OMFG I <3 THIS DRAGON AWWWWWWWWW :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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    actually, did you even implement the 1st check? I mean, the same grammar mistakes (Upercase on the moveslots, no </p> tag at the end of the 3rd AC paragraph etc) Just C/P sirndpt's copypastable so another GP member can check this!
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    I think you should list focus blast as an option to take out heatran on balloons, tyranitar, and sometimes ferro in rain
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    nope, DM + EQ, EQ, and Fire Blast does the job already.
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    Thanks, ThunderBlunder, for making the changes (and sorry for not realizing it sooner -_-;;). You should post on the GP Queue thread again to tell GP checkers that you are ready for the final check!

    EDIT: nvm, Stalfos, got it :)
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    yeah i never realized the changes got made here lol, thanks for bumping this Pocket

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    [SET]
    name: Mixed
    move 1: Draco Meteor
    move 2: Earthquake
    move 3: Outrage
    move 4: Fire Blast
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Naive / Hasty
    evs: 104 Atk / 240 SpA / 164 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>While Hydreigon is almost always seen running a fully special set, a mixed one is quite viable and effective, not to mention unpredictable and surprising due to Hydreigon's huge movepool. One might think Salamence is the better mixed Dragon-type, but this is not the case as Hydreigon has amazing mixed attacking stats, coupled with access to a plethora of wonderful moves. Hydreigon also manages to take hits just as easily as it would on the other sets because of its great 92 / 90 / 90 defenses. Draco Meteor is a powerful STAB move tohat takes advantage of Hydreigon's wonderful base 125 Special Attack; outside of Ferrothorn and the pink eggs, almost nothing in OU can take a Life Orb-boosted Draco Meteor from Hydreigon. Even 252/0 Scizor and Skarmory lose at least 50% of their health to Draco Meteor. With Earthquake no longer requires Hydreigon, Hydreigon no longer needs to rely on the inaccurate Focus Blast to 2HKO specially defensive Heatran, as it now OHKOes Heatran; specially defensive Jirachi is also swiftly 2HKOed. Outrage destroys physically bulky foes such as Reuniclus and Jellicent, while Fire bBlast nets easy OHKOs on the likes of Ferrothorn, Forretress, and any other sSteel-type that tries to switch in.</p>
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    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Hydreigon's EV spread lets it hit hard and maintain a good Speed stat. 104 Attack EVs give it the ability to 2HKO Blissey and Chansey with Outrage after Stealth Rock; a layer of Spikes is also needed for the latter. 164 Speed EVs and a Speed-boosting nature allow Hydreigon to outpace all neutral-natured base 100 Speed foes, and the remaining 240 EVs are poured into Hydreigon's other offense and its best stat. Crunch can be used as a secondary STAB move to hit Reuniclus, Jellicent, and Espeon hard, but all three are destroyed by Outrage, so it isn't advised. Taunt can prevent walls such as Blissey and Chansey from recovering health or inflicting status on Hydreigon, shutting them down so that Hydreigon can have an easier time sweeping. Focus Blast can be used over Earthquake if the chance of OHKOing non-Chople Berry Tyranitar is important for your team, but standard 252/0 Tyranitar is always 2HKOed by Earthquake anyway. An alternative, speedier spread can be used by taking away Special Attack EVs; 192 and 228 Speed EVs give Hydreigon the ability to check Jolly Lucario and Jolly Gliscor,(comma) respectively, but the drop in power is very noticeable and undesirable.</p>

    <p>Hydreigon is a great addition to any team as it can easily counter many threats in the OU metagame, such as Ferrothorn, Tyranitar, Lucario, Gliscor, Blissey, Heatran, and Rotom-W to name a few. Even with its decent Speed, Hydreigon is still outsped by key threats such as Infernape, Terrakion, Latias, and Latios. Mienshao, Infernape, and Terrakion all outspeed Hydreigon as well and easily finish it with their powerful STAB Fighting-type attacks. Jellicent and Hydreigon share excellent type synergy, resisting all elemental types the other is weak to; additionally, Jellicent can easily take care of Terrakion and Infernape. Gengar is also a great partner as it can come in freely on Fighting-type moves aimed at Hydreigon, and also takes well as taking out Latias and Latios.</p>

    <p>Opposing Dragon-types, such as Latias, Latios, and Salamence, can outspeed and destroy Hydreigon; Mamoswine can check them with its priority Ice Shard. Air Balloon Heatran is a decent check to this set as it can take any move with its Air Balloon intact and cripple Hydreigon with Dragon Pulse or Hidden Power Ice; Rotom-W orand Air Balloon Terrakion make for a good switch-ins to Heatran. After Hydreigon has taken out many walls and has finished breaking through the opponent's core, amazing mixed sweepers such as Infernape or Salamence can continue the destruction.</p>


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    [SET]
    name: Mixed
    move 1: Draco Meteor
    move 2: Earthquake
    move 3: Outrage
    move 4: Fire Blast
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Naive / Hasty
    evs: 104 Atk / 240 SpA / 164 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>While Hydreigon is almost always seen running a fully special set, a mixed one is quite viable and effective, not to mention unpredictable and surprising due to Hydreigon's huge movepool. One might think Salamence is the better mixed Dragon-type, but this is not the case as Hydreigon has amazing mixed attacking stats, coupled with access to a plethora of wonderful moves. Hydreigon also manages to take hits just as easily as it would on the other sets because of its great 92 / 90 / 90 defenses. Draco Meteor is a powerful STAB move that takes advantage of Hydreigon's wonderful base 125 Special Attack; outside of Ferrothorn and the pink eggs, almost nothing in OU can take a Life Orb-boosted Draco Meteor from Hydreigon. Even 252/0 Scizor and Skarmory lose at least 50% of their health to Draco Meteor. With Earthquake, Hydreigon no longer needs to rely on the inaccurate Focus Blast to 2HKO specially defensive Heatran, as it now OHKOes Heatran; specially defensive Jirachi is also swiftly 2HKOed. Outrage destroys physically bulky foes such as Reuniclus and Jellicent, while Fire Blast nets easy OHKOs on the likes of Ferrothorn, Forretress, and any other Steel-type that tries to switch in.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Hydreigon's EV spread lets it hit hard and maintain a good Speed stat. 104 Attack EVs give it the ability to 2HKO Blissey and Chansey with Outrage after Stealth Rock; a layer of Spikes is also needed for the latter. 164 Speed EVs and a Speed-boosting nature allow Hydreigon to outpace all neutral-natured base 100 Speed foes, and the remaining 240 EVs are poured into Hydreigon's other offense and its best stat. Crunch can be used as a secondary STAB move to hit Reuniclus, Jellicent, and Espeon hard, but all three are destroyed by Outrage, so it isn't advised. Taunt can prevent walls such as Blissey and Chansey from recovering health or inflicting status on Hydreigon, shutting them down so that Hydreigon can have an easier time sweeping. Focus Blast can be used over Earthquake if the chance of OHKOing non-Chople Berry Tyranitar is important for your team, but standard 252/0 Tyranitar is always 2HKOed by Earthquake anyway. An alternative, speedier spread can be used by taking away Special Attack EVs; 192 and 228 Speed EVs give Hydreigon the ability to check Jolly Lucario and Jolly Gliscor, respectively, but the drop in power is very noticeable and undesirable.</p>

    <p>Hydreigon is a great addition to any team as it can easily counter many threats in the OU metagame, such as Ferrothorn, Tyranitar, Lucario, Gliscor, Blissey, Heatran, and Rotom-W. Even with its decent Speed, Hydreigon is still outsped by key threats such as Infernape, Terrakion, Latias, and Latios. Mienshao, Infernape, and Terrakion all outspeed Hydreigon as well and easily finish it with their powerful STAB Fighting-type attacks. Jellicent and Hydreigon share excellent type synergy, resisting all elemental types the other is weak to; additionally, Jellicent can easily take care of Terrakion and Infernape. Gengar is also a great partner as it can come in freely on Fighting-type moves aimed at Hydreigon, as well as taking out Latias and Latios.</p>

    <p>Opposing Dragon-types, such as Latias, Latios, and Salamence, can outspeed and destroy Hydreigon; Mamoswine can check them with its priority Ice Shard. Air Balloon Heatran is a decent check to this set as it can take any move with its Air Balloon intact and cripple Hydreigon with Dragon Pulse or Hidden Power Ice; Rotom-W and Air Balloon Terrakion make for good switch-ins to Heatran. After Hydreigon has taken out many walls and has finished breaking through the opponent's core, amazing mixed sweepers such as Infernape or Salamence can continue the destruction.</p>


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    Alright all finished
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