u know, Skymin only has 120 speed. It has 127 SPA. Check on Serebii here: http://www.serebii.net/platinum/forms.shtml
bullet punch metagross and sucker punch spiritomb. CB scizor with quick attack works the same way as metagross. also pretty much anything with a priority move can revenge kill it with ease (dugtrio comes to mind)Edit: Name a Deoxys-A counter in OU.
I never said it should be OU, what are you talking about.Ok, now tell me when Deoxys would go into play in OU.
It would be better if you put Seed Flare over Growth. SubSeed sets cause so much havoc. Seed Flare can only make it more annoying. Look at it this way: Would you rather cut their SpD in half or increase your SpA by x1.5? I used this Shaymin with success in DP:This is the set that I'd think make it uber worthy:
Skymin @Leftovers
Timid (+speed, -attack)
EVs: (252 HP/ 252 SPE) (252 SPATK/ 252 SPE)
Moves:
Air Slash
Growth
Substitute
Leech Seed
There is really nothing that can stop this effectively once it gets a sub up, and since, by definition, a counter always has to be the one switching in, it pretty much always gets that free sub. 101 subs are just a preference; they aren't really necessary, especially if you want to hit harder from the outset. Leech Seed drains walls like Blissey, allowing you to boost your special attack as they break your sub. Boosted Air Slashes along with a 60% chance to render most of your opponents flinching allow you to kill them with ease.
Tell me how much speed it has on its Dex page please?u know, Skymin only has 120 speed. It has 127 SPA. Check on Serebii here: http://www.serebii.net/platinum/forms.shtml
Sure Sub might let you see what the opponent switches in and still be safely behind a Sub but wouldn't you think that Growth world work better than Substitute on this set for extended sweeping potential mid-late game?or how about i run a life orb set with sub/seed flare/air slash/HP ground. Point taken about Deoxys-A, it was just the first thing that came to mind.
Because growth actually keeps the boost power if even the opponent dies, drops goes away with the monster, so as a sweeper, boost>drop.It would be better if you put Seed Flare over Growth. SubSeed sets cause so much havoc. Seed Flare can only make it more annoying. Look at it this way: Would you rather cut their SpD in half or increase your SpA by x1.5?
It would be better if you put Seed Flare over Growth. SubSeed sets cause so much havoc. Seed Flare can only make it more annoying. Look at it this way: Would you rather cut their SpD in half or increase your SpA by x1.5? I used this Shaymin with success in DP:
Shaymin @ Leftovers
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 HP / 6 SpA / 252 Spe
Moves:
- Seed Flare
- Hidden Power Fire
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
I see no reason why this couldn't be largely successful if you swap Hidden Power Fire out for Air Slash or Hidden Power Ground.
Ah, I didn't know that.Side Question... Do you guys think this will give rise to Regice? It's Clear body negates Seed Flare's Special Defense drop, and it has a STAB 4x Super effective Ice Beam...
Certainly Air Slash has a 60% Flinch, but Regice has Amnesia, and all it needs is 1 Ice Beam.
P.S. Why would Aerodactyl not just use Stone Edge, (obviously Accuracy is taken into consideration), but you should probably note that even with a more Defensive spread which could survive Ice Fang, its best to note Aerodactyl's more likely chance to Stone Edge than Ice Fang.
150x 2 = 300 Base Power vs. Ice Fangs 65 x 4 = 260 Base Power
Yeah, I'm sure Registeel can do much while Skymin hides behind a sub with leftovers recovery, slowly sapping its life away with leech seed while attacking with a STAB Air Slash with 60% flinching. Not to mention it can also boost its special attack with Growth.This does have a 100% counter guys.
Registeel.
Registeel can Ice Punch Shaymin-S, and explode when it's done.Yeah, I'm sure Registeel can do much while Skymin hides behind a sub with leftovers recovery, slowly sapping its life away with leech seed while attacking with a STAB Air Slash with 60% flinching. Not to mention it can also boost its special attack with Growth.
Umm "Skymin" is 4x weak to IceIce Punch can't even break Skymin's sub if it's running HP EV's
Yeah, that's right I forgot to add type bonus. Still, sub+leech seed+leftovers+flinch more than makes up for it.Umm "Skymin" is 4x weak to Ice
I made that set a few pages back. I reckon it could work well... although I didn't use LO because Sub + LO recoil = a LOT of drained HP. It could still work, but you'd only ever get one sub out of it unless you manage to get Wish into it, and that wouldn't be practical at all times of the game.or how about i run a life orb set with sub/seed flare/air slash/HP ground. Point taken about Deoxys-A, it was just the first thing that came to mind.