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VGC '12 United States National - Indianapolis - WON by Cybertron and Wolfey

Discussion in 'VGC' started by Cybertron, Mar 19, 2012.

  1. Cybertron

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    Indiana Convention Center [ Map ]
    Hall I
    100 South Capitol Ave
    Indianapolis, IN 46225
    Phone: +1-317-262-3400 ‎ ​

    The US National Championships return to Indianapolis for the third year in a row! This time, there will be no qualification requirements aside from having a US address to call home making for what should be the largest Nationals tournament yet! At the end, we'll find out who will represent the United States at the World Championships in Hawaii! Get ready for one of the largest Pokemon events in history!

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    Registration Information

    Friday, June 29th—Competitor Preregistration
    All Divisions: 4:00–6:00 P.M.

    Saturday, June 30th—Competitor General Registration
    Masters Division : 8:00–8:30 A.M.
    Junior/Senior Divisions: 2:00–2:30 P.M.

    Saturday, June 30th—Player Meeting
    Masters Division: 9:00 A.M.
    Junior/Senior Divisions: 3:00 P.M.

    All times subject to change.

    Prizes


    1st Place
    • A National Champion Trophy
    • An invitation to compete at the Pokémon Video Game World Championships in Waikoloa, Hawaii, on August 11th and 12th, 2012
    • Airfare and 5-day/4-night hotel accommodations for the winner (including parent or legal guardian for players under 18) to attend the Pokémon Video Game World Championships
    2nd Place
    • A National Championships Finalist Trophy
    • An invitation to compete at the Pokémon Video Game World Championships in Waikoloa, Hawaii, on August 11th and 12th, 2012
    • Airfare and 5-day/4-night hotel accommodations for the winner (including parent or legal guardian for players under 18) to attend the Pokémon Video Game World Championships
    3rd and 4th Place
    • A National Championships Semi-Finalist Trophy
    • An invitation to compete at the Pokémon Video Game World Championships in Waikoloa, Hawaii, on August 11th and 12th, 2012
    • Airfare and 5-day/4-night hotel accommodations for the winner (including parent or legal guardian for players under 18) to attend the Pokémon Video Game World Championships
    Frequently Asked Questions

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    Where and when will Nationals take place?

    The 2012 US VGC National Championships will take place in the Indianapolis Convention Center on June 30th and July 1st. However, preregistration will take place on June 29th, so it is recommended that you arrive then to ensure that you get to compete.

    Where is everyone staying?

    The Regional winners will be staying at the Indianapolis Crowne Plaza this year. Find out where everyone else is staying in the thread!

    Do you need to be invited to Nationals this year?

    No, Nationals is open to anyone who lives in the US this year. You do not need an invitation for Nationals to compete. This is the first year Pokemon has done this for VGC.

    Is there a limit to how many people can attend Nationals this year?

    Pokemon posted that there will be a soft cap of 540 for the Masters division, and 270 for the Juniors and Seniors division. This does not necessarily mean that that is the limit for the tournament. It only means that you are guaranteed a spot if you are in the first 540 or 270. If we happen to break the cap, then Pokemon will determine whether you are allowed to compete or not based off space.

    Do I need Player Points to play in Nationals? How about Championship Points?

    You do not need either to attend this year's Nationals. Player Points are only for TCG players, and Championship Points are useless to VGC players this year.

    How will Nationals work this year? Is it single elimination?

    Nationals will be run with swiss rounds and a top cut this year. This means that everyone will play a certain amount of rounds. These rounds are just 1 game, not a best 2 of 3. The number of rounds we play is based off the number of people that attend. You should expect to play between 7 to 10 swiss rounds. During swiss, you are paired with someone with your record every round. (If it's Round 1, I could play anyone. In Round 2, if I won in Round 1, I play someone who also won, etc.)

    After swiss is over, the Top X players are taken from each division. We are expecting a Top 32 for Juniors and Seniors, and a Top 64/128 for Masters. The place you finish after you finish is your seed going into top cut, and brackets are created. (Highest seed plays the lowest seed, 2nd plays the 2nd lowest, etc.)
    Top cut matches are a best 2 of 3 single elimination, meaning you'll play a best 2 of 3 against each of your opponents. If you win, you advance on, but if you lose, you're out of the tournament.

    How many games do I have to win to get into the top cut?

    For each division, you can afford to lose up to 3 swiss matches at most and still make it into the top cut. However, only a few, if any, who lose 3 matches will make it into the top cut. In order to make it in for sure, you can only afford to lose once or twice.

    What does it mean when people say "x-0, 7-1, 4-4, etc.?"

    The first number is the number of games won while the second is the number of games lost. If someone says they are "x-0," that means they have currently won all their games and are undefeated. If they are "7-1," they have won 7 and lost 1. If they are "4-4," they have won 4 and lost 4. Pretty simple, right?

    How are the final rankings determined?

    The final rankings are determined first off your record, then a series of tiebreakers. For example, if you win all your games, you will finish higher than someone who lost 1 game. If you lose 1 game, you will finish higher than someone who lost 2 games, etc. Read the next question to understand how tiebreakers work.

    But what if I lose just as many games as someone else? Is there a tiebreaker to determine who finishes higher?

    The 1st tiebreaker to determine the final standings between people with the same record is your opponent's win %. This is how many games all your opponents win out of all the games they played. It's a bit complicated, but I'll try to explain it as simply as I can. Say that we have 8 rounds for the tournament. This means that you will play 8 people, and each of these 8 people will have played 8 people at the end of the tournament for a total of 64 games. After the 8 rounds are over, Pokemon takes the number of games these 8 people won and divides them by the total number of games played. If all my opponents finished with a 5-3 record, then it would be 40/64 for a tiebreaker of 62.5%.

    What is this "resistance" I often hear about?

    Resistance is a term Pokemon players use to describe the initial tiebreaker.

    What is a "bye?"

    A bye is when you do not have an opponent for the round and win your match automatically. There are two types of byes. The first is when there is an odd number of people in the tournament. This means that every round, there will be 1 person without an opponent. This person will get an automatic win for the round. Byes are always given to people with losing records. (In round 2, it will be given to a 0-1, in round 3, to a 0-2, etc.) These byes will not affect your tiebreaker or resistance. (Meaning if there are 8 rounds and you have 1 bye, your final percentage will be calculated out of 56 matches rather than 64) You will never get more than 1 of these byes in a tournament.

    The second type of bye is the one Regional finalists have won. Each Regional finalist has been awarded 2 byes, meaning they will automatically win the first two games. However, rather than not affecting their final resistance at all, they actually benefit it. The Regional byes count as opponents who win every single one of their games. This means that if there are 8 rounds, and you have 2 Regional byes, your final percentage will be calculated out of 64 matches. Out of these 64, there is an automatic 16 wins that is added from the byes. The rest is determined off how your opponents do.

    I'm still a bit confused, can you use an example to explain byes and resistance?

    OK. Like before, let's assume we have 8 swiss rounds at Nationals. There will be 8 swiss rounds, meaning everyone will play 8 games before the top cut is determined. Here's how things will work.

    If you don't have a single bye in the entire tournament and play all 8 games, and all your opponents play their 8 games, then your final record will be out of 8 games. This means you can finish 8-0, 7-1, 6-2, 5-3, 4-4, 3-5, 2-6, 1-7, 0-8. If there is a top 32 cut, you are guaranteed to make it in if your record is either 8-0 or 7-1, and most likely 6-2. Only a few 5-3s will make it in, and this is where the tiebreaker comes in. Since all 8 of my opponents completed all their games, my resistance will be out of 64. Let's say I play the people who finish with the following records: 8-0, 6-2, 5-3, 5-3, 4-4, 3-5, 3-5, 2-6. After some quick adding, we see that my opponents won a total number of 36 games. Since they played 64, that means that your resistance would be 36/64, or exactly 56.25%.

    Let's say you have a bye round 1. Like the last scenario, everything remains the same other than your resistance. Let's say my opponents finish with the following records: 8-0, 6-2, 5-3, 5-3, 4-4, 3-5, 3-5. There is only 7 people because you did not play round 1. Then, my resistance would be out of 56 matches. Adding all those up, we see that my opponents won a total of 34 games. They played a total of 56, for a resistance of 34/56 or 60.71%.

    Finally, let's say you have two Regional byes. Now you only play 6 rounds, since you automatically won rounds 1 and 2. Let's say my opponents finish with the following records: 8-0, 6-2, 5-3, 5-3, 4-4, 3-5. See? Only 6 final records. However, my total resistance will still be calculated out of 64. My opponents won a total of 31 games out of the 48 they played. Let's calculate my resistance. We have the 16 that come automatically from the Regional byes. (Think about it this way: I played 2 8-0s with my byes.) So, we have 16 plus the 31 my opponents won. That's 47, and there were still a total of 64 games. 47/64 would be a resistance of 73.44%, which is quite incredible. You can see that out of all these scenarios, I end up with the highest resistance in this case. This is why Regional byes are so beneficial. If any X-3s make it into the top cut in any division, I can almost guarantee you it will be someone with regional byes.

    Attendees
    Players with byes from Regionals have an * next to their name.

    Masters

    1. Nickscor*
    2. theamericandream38*
    3. Wolfey*
    4. Fishy*
    5. JiveTime*
    6. Crow350*
    7. ZachDro*
    8. Alaka*
    9. HDmvp41*
    10. Charzaro*
    11. Enfuego*
    12. Metabou*
    13. CakesOfSpan*
    14. Wiretap*
    15. dragonexpert
    16. bearsfan092
    17. Hydro26
    18. Dozz
    19. honchkro13
    20. Sevrah
    21. TheMantyke
    22. Alphabet123
    23. GreySong
    24. Shiny Regice
    25. Human
    26. kinderlew
    27. Spencer
    28. Sapphire Birch
    29. InfinityParalysis
    30. lucariojr
    31. Nightblade7000
    32. Synre
    33. evan
    34. TrollFreak
    35. Aiya
    36. mrbopper
    37. Smith
    38. Chill Murray
    39. Brandon13569
    40. El Scorcho
    41. Stormfront
    42. Tyler
    43. Unreality
    44. TheGr8
    45. Werecario
    46. Ditto
    47. Sixonesix
    48. NixHex
    49. icepick
    50. Shii
    51. DoctorKen2k
    52. Kid Kadabra
    53. shofu
    54. Ravix
    55. MikeDecIsHere
    56. Calm_lava
    57. jhud
    58. Hawkstar
    59. Wild Eep
    60. religiousjedi
    61. Firestorm
    62. Cassie
    63. fearow23
    64. Tom Brady
    65. pokemonrocks777
    66. Blades
    67. Prof. Dogwood
    68. commi$$ioner
    69. Nexus
    70. Huy
    71. macle
    72. SirJustin
    73. SirIan
    74. Mosquito
    75. Codios
    76. GunblazeGriffin
    77. Oberon
    78. LonelyNess
    79. CaptKirby
    80. Ragdoll
    Seniors

    1. Cybertron*
    2. JRank*
    3. AlphaOmega*
    4. Drifblim*
    5. dingram*
    6. LPFan*
    7. TalkingLion*
    8. DreamTalon*
    9. Ghornet*
    10. KeepBayleefing*
    11. Maski*
    12. TheCalmSnivy*
    13. Remien*
    14. uxsee*
    15. pokemaster649
    16. lolfailsnail
    17. Darkpenguin67
    18. Dimsun
    19. Lucien Lachance
    20. DeepSpeed
    21. fuel
    22. GARCHOMPZILLA
    23. Superpokemon67
    24. kingofkongs
    25. VGCMASTER
    26. RushingMaid
    27. V17
    28. Otterz
    29. RedStriker
    30. CodyBernheisel
  2. Cybertron

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    Now that US Regionals are finally over, this is open for discussion! Feel free to post about whether you're going or not, predictions, or just overall discussion. Also, let me know if you earned two byes through Regionals so I can update the OP.

    This will be here in no time :)
  3. pokemaster649

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    I'm going, 4th place north cal regional, seniors.
  4. dragonexpert

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    I'll be attending, though more likely as staff.
  5. lolfailsnail

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    I'm almost definitely going in seniors, and since my cousin made Top 4 at Houston he'll be going in juniors.
  6. Drifblim

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    why wouldn't I? The lists of byes have yet to be updated, possibly make a separate list of ALL attendees?
  7. bearsfan092

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    I will be there. Hydro26 (Syed) will most likely be there as well. Both of us are Masters.
  8. Darkpenguin67

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    Attending for Seniors.
  9. Dozz

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    Guess what! Looks like you guys are going to be having a special, international guest at this one. You can all get stoked for that now. All I'll have to do is make sure whichever job in the US I take grants me this weekend off.

    Not sure if I'll play but yeah, I'll be about most likely, just chilling out and cracking wise.
  10. LudiImpact

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    I might. Have to convince my parents in driving 8-10 hours.

    EDIT: Just realized it is 11-12 hours
  11. honchkro13

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    what he said

    I'll only be an hour and a half away from this, score! I'll be competing in Masters.
  12. Infinity.Cypher

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    I might be going, and going with my friend Stephen

    Might go there by train or his Dad will drive us
  13. Cybertron

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    lol yes, I am making a second list of all attendees hence the "Attendees" after "Player with Byes" :P
  14. Nickscor

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    Got the prize money for placing first in Pleasanton, so it makes sense to go.

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  15. soul_survivor

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    I'll be going to this one with my two friends(one being the guy that made the pokemon with perler beads). Luckily ties won't matter here.


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  16. Sevrah

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    I will be attending in the Master's division. Thanks.
  17. TheMantyke

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    Pretty certain I'll be going for the master's division! Got the prize money and all, so why not?
  18. Dimsun

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    Attending, seniors as top 4 at Athens. Will be LOTS of fun to meet all the smogoners and skarmblissers out there!
  19. Alphabet123

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    You already know
  20. theamericandream38

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    Weeeeeee, I will be attending of course =D Can't wait to see everyone again!
  21. CalzoneCannon

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    I herd the only requirement aside frim being a US resident was to have 10 championship points, which denies my entry...
  22. Cybertron

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    You do not need Championship Points for VGC. That is only for TCG.
  23. Dimsun

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    Ummmm, no? It's completely open. From what I understand, championship points won't matter this year.
  24. GreySong

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    Heck. Yes. Expect me to be there!!! :D
  25. Shiny Regice

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    I'll be competing in masters =) June can't come soon enough.

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