Alright, I have gotten a poor night's sleep and I'm ready to tackle the absolute white western liberal buffoonery Bughouse was spewing. Love when people whose whole experience is just reading wikipedia articles and online debate bro bullshit try to talk about why things are the way they are.
Israel and Hamas is an entirely separate conflict from Israel and Hezbollah for quite obvious reasons.
Untrue. Different facets of the same colonial conflict, which arises from white westerners drawing lines on a map and deciding "this belongs to us now." The sectarian conflicts in Lebanon are a direct result of French colonialism empowering the Maronites to have majority power over everything and zionist interference in Lebanon in support of the Maronites. Hezbollah's formation was a direct result of isr*eli meddling in Lebanon and backing the Maronites in attempting to maintain French and western colonial influence, which was opposed by literally everybody else, from the Muslim fundamentalists to the Marxists to the Druze to Palestinian refugees (I should note that a lot of Druze and Palestinian people were leftist and secularist in outlook), who all allied against the colonizers and their puppets. The civil war's flashpoint was Kataeb (right wing Christian party) supporters massacring Palestinians, to call it "entirely separate" is a fucking joke when Hezbollah only formed due to the zionist invasion which only occurred because of colonialism and because of the genocidal state on the border.
Fun fact about Kataeb - did you know they modeled themselves after the Francoists and Mussolini, wore brown shirts, and did the nazi salute? This was the party that was the leading force in the coalition between Lebanese Christian militias and isr*el. Literally cannot get more white- and western-influenced than that.
There is not a remotely legitimate argument that Israel's conflict with Hezbollah in Lebanon is genocidal. I will generously assume you are referring to Gaza here, even though literally nothing else in your post points that direction. But if you truly believe Israel's strikes in Lebanon are "genocidal" you are just off your rocker.
Focusing their bombings on the areas where Palestinian refugees are congregated, which I pointed out in my very short post, is genocidal, but good job twisting my words because of your lack of reading comprehension.
I have a LOT of sympathy for Palestinians who have a fair case for never really having been given a fair shot at success. I have a lot less sympathy for Lebanon which really could/should have been a thriving pluralistic democracy but has instead consistently embraced sectarian conflict and as a result has gradually fully ceded control of its country to Hezbollah.
Your sympathy for Palestinians apparently doesn't extend to doing anything to support them or to them going to Lebanon without being bombed further. As for Lebanon, how the fuck "should" it have been thriving when it was a colonial holding until less than 100 years ago and even after getting "independence" in name it was still controlled by a cabal of corrupt French-backed Maronites while the west and the zionists and Syria and everyone else have outsized influence in Lebanese politics? "Embraced" sectarian conflict my ass, the fucking westerners and isr*elis and Maronite elites fanned the flames and kept massacring people they didn't like while refusing to give any sort of fair representation to Muslims, Druze, or left-wing secular parties.
Make no mistake that a democratic Lebanon would not be firing missiles into Israel "in sympathy" with Gazans
Using "democratic" as a synonym for "Christians retaking pre-civil war levels of power" is certainly a choice when the Maronite political dynasties were repeatedly outed as flagrantly corrupt. A Christian-controlled Lebanon would have happily aided the genocide, and this was one of the motivating factors behind the civil war - Muslim and Druze citizens supported Palestinians while Christians wanted them dead or exiled, and repeatedly massacred them in an attempt to drive them out. I suppose that means you're right, though - your dogwhistle version of Lebanon that's controlled by white western interests would definitely be supporting the genocide-doers.
, as Lebanese citizens understand these are separate conflicts.
You have zero fucking clue what "Lebanese citizens" think. Lumping all citizens together in such a sectarian nation is fucking stupid, for one thing - most Muslims and Druze support Palestinians and see this as a connected struggle while most Christians support the west, but everyone and their mother can see these are intertwined conflicts. Stop ascribing your uninformed view to a whole population that you've never interacted with.
And what do you propose Israel is meant to do in regards to 100,000 Israelis being displaced due to Hezbollah's missiles? Full on war again like 2006?
I've been very clear - if they want to stop being bombed, stop stealing land and get the fuck out. We both know it won't happen - there is nothing the genocidal settler-state is "meant to do" but not fucking exist, and I condemn every single thing they ever do because all of it will always be in service of colonial violence.
Your number is made up both because that number is actually a lowball estimate for how many Lebanese people the zionists have displaced, and because just saying "displaced" leaves out the context that this is displacing colonizers from the land they are occupying, which is good, actually. How many Palestinian and Lebanese people are currently displaced? That's an actual bad thing, unlike colonizers being driven out of land that they don't belong on and that they're destroying. Have you seen the videos of zionist colonizers burning and chopping down olive trees? They don't even have respect for the land they're displacing people off of. It's disgusting and cruel behavior that's going to leave Palestine ecologically devastated for decades if not centuries, even once the fascists are driven out. May they all be displaced sooner rather than later, right back to their European roots, and hopefully the land can be restored again.
Also, all of you fucking libs keep coming back to painting this as a conflict between the zionist state and Hamas or Hezbollah. It is not. The zionist state is and has been committing genocide against Palestinians, regardless of creed, affiliation, religion, or location. The zionist state is hostile to all Lebanese people except for the far-right Christians, and their scope of murder, invasion, and cruelty goes much further than just "fighting Hezbollah." It's a much more convenient narrative for you all to keep framing it as "isr*el (legitimate state defending itself) vs insert-terrorist-faction-here (whatever faction can be delegitimized and painted as wantonly cruel, uncalculated, and morally evil)" but that's not how the world works. Stop speaking on things you don't actually understand.
