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Garchomp Voting to start on September 5th

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Would special permission include being away for 3.5 weeks of august and then getting back and finding that you will have to build a completely new team because garchomp was on your old one, whilst silmultainiously balancing your social life and your paperound?

xD


wish i played enough to vote =\
 
The percentage of people so busy that they don't have any leisure time, is probably zero. It is certainly far below one percent. Do you really know people that don't watch TV, go to a movie, read a book for pleasure, play video games, hunt, knit, garden, play golf, or partake in any of the thousands of other leisure activities?
Well, I agree, but there are phases in life when you're so busy that you don't get to do any leisure activities. If you have never passed through this phase yet... bless you.
 
There are also phases in life where other priorities fill "leisure" time. I could spend 2 hours a night laddering if I really wanted to, but my wife might feel really neglected and hurt that I spend more time with Abomasnow than I do with her. Since I have other priorities, I am apparently not qualified to vote on this issue. I hope the folks that are get it right for the rest of us.
 
Uhh guys this takes 3 hours total (and I'm stretching the upper limit here) in an entire month.

If you are complaining that you do not have 3 hours to spend in one month in what is considered to be the environment for competitive play here (the ladder), then obviously you do not deserve to vote.

This vote on Garchomp metagame and Garchompless metagame (and Deoxys-S) is based in experience, so I don't understand what all of you are complaining about.

Yes, if you do not have the time to play, you are not capable of making a good vote. What is the issue here?

We are just saying if you cannot obtain the necessary experience, you should not vote.

Note we are not even being strict with the line. We are just asking that you play some. 1650 rating and 60 deviation?

Took me (and others) three hours. Hell, if you think I am lying, double that. 6 hours. 6 hours in one month.

If you can't hold it to yourself to play for 6 hours in one month and gain the necessary experience to compare both metagames, then yes, you do not deserve to vote.

Have a nice day.
 
lol Hip's line doesn't seem to fit well when Aldaron says it. =/ Sorry

So when voting, I understand that this is a pure "yes" and "no" answer, and that we are going to be voting on Garchomp's tier placement: but what happens to Deoxys-s? will we vote on him also, or will he go together with Garchomp? Or will he stay regardless.
 
lol Hip's line doesn't seem to fit well when Aldaron says it. =/ Sorry

So when voting, I understand that this is a pure "yes" and "no" answer, and that we are going to be voting on Garchomp's tier placement: but what happens to Deoxys-s? will we vote on him also, or will he go together with Garchomp? Or will he stay regardless.

I don't think we do.
 
So when voting, I understand that this is a pure "yes" and "no" answer

I don't see why it would be a straight "yes" and "no" answer (maybe it is, but I doubt it), we still have to provide excellent reasoning to back up our claim to have our vote accepted like the last time we did a bold voting process. With that "arguments" thread that got stickied, it's probably even more of a reason to provide reasoning along with your vote. If this isn't how it's going to be, however, I'd really appreciate it if an admin or mod could clear it up.

On another note, my Melfice account made the cut! Yay. :D

EDIT: Thanks OmegaX, I'm not sure how I missed that post...well, it is a relief that I don't have to write up a gigantic argument now. :D
 
The other system was way too subjective, imo. It was almost as if you weren't really voting, but rather trying to convince a judge about something.
 
I've been playing Golly for the ladder, in case of any confusion.

Now I just have to hold on to the borderlining stats, but....
I'm not too consistant.
 
wait...

at what time exactly do you have to meet the requirements? because I'm actually able to shoddy on friday evening (the 5th) (no dates this week D:) and will hopefully be able to meet the rating requirements after a few hours of laddering. so like, the voting starts on the 5th but if I'm a little late, say the 6th (due to bad internet) in certain time zones would that be acceptable?

edit: well I feel kinda stupid for asking the obvious. so like, thanks for being reasonable guys!
 
wait...

at what time exactly do you have to meet the requirements? because I'm actually able to shoddy on friday evening (the 5th) (no dates this week D:) and will hopefully be able to meet the rating requirements after a few hours of laddering. so like, the voting starts on the 5th but if I'm a little late, say the 6th (due to bad internet) in certain time zones would that be acceptable?

September 5th at 11:30 PM, Pacific time is when Doug stated he was collecting the data.
 
i wish i could vote, but it looks like that won't be the case. i hope no one gets swayed by everyone else's vote. remember guys, this decision has implications that are too broad to the pokemon community for one to get personal or 'what would everyone else think'.
 
THE FATE OF THE ENTIRE COMPETITIVE POKEMON WORLD IS IN YOUR HANDS.



Seriously. Smogon is the first and last word in everything pokemon. We make the rules. We make the sets, we make the EV spreads. Everyone who plays this game looks to Smogon for guidance.

Whatever we decide happens to Garchomp will be the same everywhere else inside a week. Make the vote count!
 
Actually this is the one subject I've ever heard a lot of people say that they're going to ignore Smogon about, if Garchomp should end up uber.
 
Actually this is the one subject I've ever heard a lot of people say that they're going to ignore Smogon about, if Garchomp should end up uber.

Mostly the people who refuse to kick Garchomp off their team. Ive mostly heard the other side of the story, people who will finally listen to Smogon once Garchomp gets booted to UBER.
 
Don't matter really, if they listen to us or not. I mean, we're the top server. If we ban garchomp, too bad. lol

On that note, I feel stupid for not having played enough matches on standard ladder this month to participate in this lol

edit: Though probably for the better since I don't have an opinion . . . >.>
 
i don't know if skiddle is being sarcastic or not but the fact is that the smogon server is the no. 1 in shoddy and shoddy houses much more top battlers than on wifi. say what you will, the truth stands. this vote is gonna mean things to us who play the game, there's no denying it. that's the pressure that comes with having such a sall party of voters.
 
I am totally serious... Smogon IS pokemon right now.


BTW guys check out the August stats!


EDIT: wow, i am spelling good, must have sobered up a bit
 
I am wondering if there are any tie breakers in place. Say the Yes/No vote gets split down to exactly 18-18, what would happen then? Besides me laughing uncontrollably, of course.
 
I am wondering if there are any tie breakers in place. Say the Yes/No vote gets split down to exactly 18-18, what would happen then? Besides me laughing uncontrollably, of course.

While this is unlikely to happen here as the majority of Smogon users want Garchomp in Ubers, this is an interesting issue that might need to be thought about. I'm guessing they just keep the status quo then.
 
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