Cloning your pet

The bright ray of life will fit in just fine, but in a dim economic climate why would someone spend six figures on a dog.
What fantastic journalism.


I'd be more interested into finding out where the $150,000 has gone since.
People have the right to spend their money as they see fit.
 
You know what was the best part of this story, is that the dog wasn't from them, i mean it wasn't their pet before, it was just some random dog bought for them, oh yeah but CLONED!! pretty stupid idea in my opinion, i could easily buy a similar dog an say it was cloned duh!!!
 
If I got personalized license plated that say "SKARMORY" on them, would I be an inadequate wanker?

Because my car is silver and red, and I am very tempted to do it.

Yes, but you'd win bonus points for having a pokemon theme that would negate that somewhat.

I agree completely with cookie on reflection; the beauty of life is that it has a beginning, middle, and end, and trying to delay that is normal; trying to ignore it completely is not.
 
I bought my last dog from a breeder.

Yeah I know how selfish I am but I'm never getting an animal off a shelter.
 
what really boggles the mind is these selfish people gave birth to kids when there are thousands still waiting to be adopted. and on the subject of wankers...

If I got personalized license plated that say "SKARMORY" on them, would I be an inadequate wanker?

Because my car is silver and red, and I am very tempted to do it.

yes. you know how much money that is? that money could have gone to needy people.
 
It's $40 for the first year, and $25 per year after that.

Along the same vein, do you have any idea how much time you've wasted on Smogon since 2005? You could have spent all that time helping needy people.
 
what really boggles the mind is these selfish people gave birth to kids when there are thousands still waiting to be adopted. and on the subject of wankers...



yes. you know how much money that is? that money could have gone to needy people.
I hope you really are not being serious here. It isn't selfish for people to want to have children that are their own flesh and blood. For most people, the desire is to create their own children, parts of themselves.

I'm going to have two of my own kids with Syberia but I am also going to be adopting two children later.
 
Heh, clever Atlas. Oh, and not all $150,000 up front, hu?

Personally, I still think it's a bit eccentric, but

I bought my last dog from a breeder.

Yeah I know how selfish I am but I'm never getting an animal off a shelter.

I think if you have the money, you should ultimately use it however you want.
 
I was astonished by how easily you dismissed the entire progress of medicine, lol.

Feh, I don't see why cloning humans would be so unethical. They'd be humans just like anyone else, and thus deserve the same rights and respect normally conceived people should have.
I do not want to dismiss the medical importance of it, just simply say that I feel that medicine will one day become the Elixir of Immortality people have been looking for for centuries.

And cloning humans would be unethical because of the failure rate. It would cause the same stir that abortion does, only these would be babies born that we know only have a 12% (actually less) chance of living, and wouldn't live to old age anyway.
 
Whilst Atlas was probably being sarcastic I actually tend to agree with him - I don't really think anyone has the 'right' to imprint their genes on the world when there's so many kids who need help, overpopulation and general unpleasantness.
 
Whilst Atlas was probably being sarcastic I actually tend to agree with him - I don't really think anyone has the 'right' to imprint their genes on the world when there's so many kids who need help, overpopulation and general unpleasantness.
Excuse me? Shouldn’t have the "right" to reproduce? You really should have made a better choice of words there. How dare you say people don’t have the "right" to do what nature intended, to reproduce. How dare you say something like that? So we just shouldn’t have sex then? Or all women should be forced to take birth control, or have their tubes tied. Cuz incase you didn’t know abortions are not the safest thing to be doing over and over and over again. I have a co-worker who’s uterus if falling out and falling apart because of an abortion, and that was from the first abortion. So I guess you want everyone to just not have sex or not form a family since not all women can take birth control and it doesn’t work on all women. Or I guess you would just want all the men to have their balls cut off.

Don’t have the "right" to "imprint their genes. You have said some things that were just wrong and ridiculous, but this one takes the cake. If your parents were told that they didn’t have the “right” to imprint their genes then you wouldn’t exist.
 
I do not want to dismiss the medical importance of it, just simply say that I feel that medicine will one day become the Elixir of Immortality people have been looking for for centuries.

And cloning humans would be unethical because of the failure rate. It would cause the same stir that abortion does, only these would be babies born that we know only have a 12% (actually less) chance of living, and wouldn't live to old age anyway.

Technology progresses very rapidly; I bet they could streamline the process and make cloning much more efficient and safe within a decade or so. As long as we treat clones as normal humans I don't see anything wrong with cloning.
 
Its called basic human rights. And most countries practice them.
Why should we value basic human rights and what are they? I don't care that most countries practice them, once upon a time most cultures practiced slavery and rape. You obviously don't seem to deem that behavior as correct or that a person has a "right" to enslave or rape.
 
Why should we value basic human rights and what are they? I don't care that most countries practice them, once upon a time most cultures practiced slavery and rape. You obviously don't seem to deem that behavior as correct or that a person has a "right" to enslave or rape.

Now, tell me, how do you compare slavery and rape to freedom of speech and right of choice?
 
Why would a question like this even cross your mind?
Why does anyone question anything?

Is it wrong to think "why"? Is it somehow wrong to question social norms, common morals, and ponder why should you say or think one way or another?

This my friend, is what philosophy is all about.
 
Why why why why is your game, hu?

How do you think why feels about that?

Though I'm fine with why in moderation, the fact that people realize that being in situations where they're enslaved and all sucks so they believe that kind of thing shouldn't be allowed to happen to people.
 
Then why is Lexite getting in such a hissy fit because someone states their beliefs that people don't have a right to have progeny (something I agree partially, dumb people and those who obviously aren't going to be good parents shouldn't have children) and states just as vague of an argument akin to "Just because".

That's really what I'm aiming for, I certainly hope he doesn't think he can convince people with the "It's basic human rights! and other people do it too!" argument.

Personally, I realize there is no such thing as "rights".
 
Why should we value basic human rights and what are they? I don't care that most countries practice them, once upon a time most cultures practiced slavery and rape. You obviously don't seem to deem that behavior as correct or that a person has a "right" to enslave or rape.
So you dont care if a country follows and respects basic human rights. Ok, so you think it is fine that china forces people to only have one child and if they family has a second they have to abort the second. Or if the family has a girl first, you don’t care that that family just tosses the baby in the trash can? If you don’t care that other countries don’t follow basic human rights then you don’t care if the countries over in Africa are killing hundreds of people in genocides? And you think it's ok what the Nazis did to the jews in WWII?


You really need to grow up and take a look at the world if you don’t care if countries follow and respect basic human rights. And incase you didn’t know, not all countries supported slavery and not everyone agreed with slavery in the countries that did practice slavery.

Then why is Lexite getting in such a hissy fit because someone states their beliefs that people don't have a right to have progeny (something I agree partially, dumb people and those who obviously aren't going to be good parents shouldn't have children) and states just as vague of an argument akin to "Just because".

That's really what I'm aiming for, I certainly hope he doesn't think he can convince people with the "It's basic human rights! and other people do it too!" argument.

Personally, I realize there is no such thing as "rights".
Yes there are some people that should not bad allowed to have children because they would be harmful to the child, as in a know pedophile, cereal murders and those that are not capable of taking care of themselves. But Akuchi is not limiting it to those people and said everyone doesn’t have the right. Try to stay on topic.

And are you just dense or something. There is no such thing as "rights"? So people don’t have the right to live. We shouldn’t have laws to protect people. Ok, so no one has the right to live. You wouldn’t care if I went and killed your friends? Well they didn’t have any "rights"; I guess they didn’t have the basic right of life then.

And I am a she, not a he and yes I would hope that I can convince people that there are basic human rights. Other people respect people's rights to live and because they do others should too. You are just ignorant and cannot understand life and the world around you.
 
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