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ok, if it doesnt work this time i will try that mingot, and no, my ditto isn't holding an everstone atm. thanks

EDIT: So i just hatched an Impish Eevee, which is the nature I wanted, but it wasn't shiny again, so if I get the next few eggs and they all have an Impish nature, then I have the wrong Secret ID, correct?

Double Edit: One thing i think might be making it go wrong, i am hard resetting instead of soft resetting so i can get the check IV and quick hatch codes, since they go away after a soft reset, does this affect my outcome in any way?
 
what's the difference between version 4.10 and 4.01?

Link in sig.

ok, if it doesnt work this time i will try that mingot, and no, my ditto isn't holding an everstone atm. thanks

EDIT: So i just hatched an Impish Eevee, which is the nature I wanted, but it wasn't shiny again, so if I get the next few eggs and they all have an Impish nature, then I have the wrong Secret ID, correct?

No. Uncheck shiny only. Find your spread that you wanted to hit. Look at the next spreads. Subsequently hatched eggs should have those natures, genders, etc.

EDIT: Hard resetting is fine.
 
Are there any walking NPCs on the screen?

No, the birds' IVs are generated when you talk with Oak in its house, and there's only him there. But I discovered what was the problem, it's that I had the Map app open. I changed back to the digital clock, saved, and resetted. Then, Moltres was back to frame 1.

Now I'm checking if it only happens with the birds or with Method J legendaries (like Palkia) also.
 
Hrm, if having the map open advances the seed that would be very interesting, and perhaps what you should test out.
 
is shiny Rotom just not possible with this method? This is the second time that I have gotten the right nature, but not a shiny, could the fact that it is a semi-legendary affect it in any way?
Shiny Rotom IS possible using the RNG I just hatched one yesterday that had the correct nature.
 
Hmm. I'm getting frame 1 with Palkia even with the map App open. Guess it's only with Method 1 pokémon? I can't test Cresselia because I, huh, killed her way before I started these shiny abuses. I could swear defeated pokémon returned to their homeplaces to be fought again :/
 
So even though you're using a random wild pokemon's ivs to find the seed, then calculate the number of taps and flips you'll still be able to use the spreads you find for any pokemon to breed, except legendaries for now?
 
Hmm. I'm getting frame 1 with Palkia even with the map App open. Guess it's only with Method 1 pokémon? I can't test Cresselia because I, huh, killed her way before I started these shiny abuses. I could swear defeated pokémon returned to their homeplaces to be fought again :/
It's only Giratina that does that :(
 
So even though you're using a random wild pokemon's ivs to find the seed, then calculate the number of taps and flips you'll still be able to use the spreads you find for any pokemon to breed, except legendaries for now?

We can do it for legendaries now also, it is just we are not sure exactly how to yet besides SRing in front of them.
 
It's only Giratina that does that :(

Shit. So Serebii told me wrong, he said on their forums that he had killed one of the pixies but it returned to its lake.

So here I am now, looking for rebattle codes... I wonder why Pokésav doesn't let you mess with the event flags still.
 
Abusing the RNG J method for Azelf. You have to manually find spreads, so it's not as easy. Found this and got it, just for fun.
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Quirky
5/30/20/31/31/25

So how did you do this exactly?
 
How do you find the "offset" for the egg? I get the frame, but what if the frame is like 203? The offeset spot in the timer only has 2 spots...
 
I finally got around to trying it with my calculated SID, and I did everything on the tutorial and followed the video.

I ended up with a Feebas with the correct predicted Nature and Gender, but not shiny. (I did click the Shiny box after testing for the initial seed~)

Does this mean the SID I inputted was incorrect, or something else? I'm thinking I must have accidentally tapped the Friendship checker an extra time (97 taps, 10 coin flips) or something, and that would have messed up the RNG. D: I can't be sure though. Maybe I should recalculate my shiny starly's PID. My Trainer ID was 02994 and my Starly's PID was CDADF371.
 
The Pokemon on Route 229 are about level 50. Also, if you're playing Platinum, if you fish in the Resort Area, you can catch Magikarp anywhere from level 1 to 100. Since these Pokemon are at such high levels, they will usually give pretty accurate results when you run their stats through in an IV checker.

From there, you can usually brute force the RNG Reporter with whatever combination of IVs that are possible for the Pokemon you caught. Usually it's only 16 at most, and most often only something like 4. This will give you your initial IRNG seed.
So you can only get the high level Resort Magikarp on Platinum... Well that's unfortunate as I don't have it yet. Well I wasted a good half hour looking for them on my Pearl... Anyway, from what I read on other pages (was rifling through old and new posts when I found this one answering a previous question), it's okay to not have exact IVs when you input them? Example; my just caught Raticate had IVs of 4/18-19/6/0-1/31/11. It's okay to put the 18 and the 0 in RNG and loook for spreads, then the 19 and 1 if I don't like any of those prior?

*Edit* Are reasonable numbers of Happiness Taps and Coin Flips found easily? I kept getting numbers for Happiness Checker taps above 1000.
 
So you can only get the high level Resort Magikarp on Platinum... Well that's unfortunate as I don't have it yet. Well I wasted a good half hour looking for them on my Pearl... Anyway, from what I read on other pages (was rifling through old and new posts when I found this one answering a previous question), it's okay to not have exact IVs when you input them? Example; my just caught Raticate had IVs of 4/18-19/6/0-1/31/11. It's okay to put the 18 and the 0 in RNG and loook for spreads, then the 19 and 1 if I don't like any of those prior?

*Edit* Are reasonable numbers of Happiness Taps and Coin Flips found easily? I kept getting numbers for Happiness Checker taps above 1000.

it's more of try 18 and 0, see if there are possible spreads, check 19 and 0 for possible spreads, try 18 and 1 check for possible spreads and 19 and 1 for possible spreads, and pick the one most likely.
It's possible to get really low numbers, you just keep resetting if you don't like the number of taps, I generally aim for spreads that require like less than 500 taps.
 
Is there any way to adjust for delay? I've managed to get a delay of 627 almost EVERY time I've done this. However, my desired spread is at 628.

What can be done to adjust for delay? Is delay parallel with time? Should I wait an extremely small amount of time longer?
 
Resetting completely, right? Getting catching new Pokemon and going through all of it again, not just re-entering the values, etc? Just making sure.
 
How do you find the "offset" for the egg? I get the frame, but what if the frame is like 203? The offeset spot in the timer only has 2 spots...

If you are getting an egg at frame 203 you are doing something horribly wrong.

I finally got around to trying it with my calculated SID, and I did everything on the tutorial and followed the video.

I ended up with a Feebas with the correct predicted Nature and Gender, but not shiny. (I did click the Shiny box after testing for the initial seed~)

Does this mean the SID I inputted was incorrect, or something else? I'm thinking I must have accidentally tapped the Friendship checker an extra time (97 taps, 10 coin flips) or something, and that would have messed up the RNG. D: I can't be sure though. Maybe I should recalculate my shiny starly's PID. My Trainer ID was 02994 and my Starly's PID was CDADF371.

13678?

Also, get the next 4 eggs, see if they are the correct nature to follow the one that should have been shiny. If thats the case your SID is definately wrong.

Is there any way to adjust for delay? I've managed to get a delay of 627 almost EVERY time I've done this. However, my desired spread is at 628.

What can be done to adjust for delay? Is delay parallel with time? Should I wait an extremely small amount of time longer?

Hrm, sometimes it only wants to give you odd numbers. Or even. Hard reset a few times and try taking a slot 1 cartridge in or out. Basically play with it. Or change your year +1 and aim for 627.
 
Is there any way to adjust for delay? I've managed to get a delay of 627 almost EVERY time I've done this. However, my desired spread is at 628.

What can be done to adjust for delay? Is delay parallel with time? Should I wait an extremely small amount of time longer?
You're lucky to be getting the same delay. The solution to your problem is simple. Only look for spreads with a 627 delay.

Your game seems to produce odd delays so go with those and ignore spreads with even delays(eg 628), Look for 627 mostly and also close ones, 625, 629, you get the idea
 
Damn lol.

1)I use Vile's clock and synch my DS with that.
2)At H:M:00, I turn the game off.
3)I put my AR in and turn the fast egg ghatch and iv check code on.
4)I start the game while pressing A as fast as possible.
5)I get the egg and hatch it due to the code.
6)I catch the wild pokemon and input it IVs, nature and yada yada into the seed finder.
7)I take note of that pokemon's seconds and delay.
8)I follow the steps after that, but when I find my egg's frame, I get numbers in the 200's plus. Once I even got 8444... :(
 
o.o wait, so what exactly IS the delay? I'm not sure if I ever got an answer to that, since the spreads I need have a delay of 618, and I generally hit 616, 618 or 622, the delay's about the last thing I need to figure out for IV breeding :X
 
13678?

Also, get the next 4 eggs, see if they are the correct nature to follow the one that should have been shiny. If thats the case your SID is definately wrong.

13678? Is that what my SID should look like? >_> Don't know how I went so far off from that.
Yeah, I just followed all the directions again, and the prediction said my egg should be female and timid. I just hatched it. Voila! Female and timid. Doesn't look like coincidence anymore. I'm going to change this SID and see what pops up afterwards. :0
Thanks a bunch again!
 
Damn lol.

1)I use Vile's clock and synch my DS with that.
2)At H:M:00, I turn the game off.
3)I put my AR in and turn the fast egg ghatch and iv check code on.
4)I start the game while pressing A as fast as possible.
5)I get the egg and hatch it due to the code.
6)I catch the wild pokemon and input it IVs, nature and yada yada into the seed finder.
7)I take note of that pokemon's seconds and delay.
8)I follow the steps after that, but when I find my egg's frame, I get numbers in the 200's plus. Once I even got 8444... :(

So let me get this right. You are hatching the egg. Checking the IVs (or just using a code, don't care) and then selecting the Breeding (DPPt) method and finding your eggs offset (and this is from the instructions....) at 200+ and up to 8000?

o.o wait, so what exactly IS the delay? I'm not sure if I ever got an answer to that, since the spreads I need have a delay of 618, and I generally hit 616, 618 or 622, the delay's about the last thing I need to figure out for IV breeding :X

Read the OP please.

But really there is nothing to figure out. If you usually get 618 then search for a spread with 618.

13678? Is that what my SID should look like? >_> Don't know how I went so far off from that.
Yeah, I just followed all the directions again, and the prediction said my egg should be female and timid. I just hatched it. Voila! Female and timid. Doesn't look like coincidence anymore. I'm going to change this SID and see what pops up afterwards. :0
Thanks a bunch again!

Show me your three binary numbers.

I came up with:

1100110110101101
1111001101110001
0000101110110010
 
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