Pherhaps is to avoid taunt... i know that 80 ev's are a lot, but i think that he believes that is better to be safeyes i get that but where do the 80 speed EVs come in? under both options those 80 speed evs made no difference
If he's facing a trick room team he would imprison it, however since trick room has negative priority imprison will go first
if he is not facing a trick room team he will trick room, however because trick room has negative priority trick room would go last anyway, and now under trick room he is faster so that also has an offchance to be faster under trick room then something else
I'm upset that I didn't take credit for the Imprison+TR idea earlier when I posted it on SkarmBliss.I designed batpig's team, and I don't know if he is posting a story or not, so here is the team in it's full glory:
Smeargle (F) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 116 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Dark Void
- Detect
- Fake Out
- Transform
Dusknoir (M) @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 116 Def / 80 Spd / 60 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Imprison
- Protect
- Shadow Punch
- Trick Room
Lapras (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 156 HP / 100 Def / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Perish Song
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
Machamp (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Dynamicpunch
- Protect
- Rock Slide
I designed it as a sort of dual mode team as evidenced by Dusknoir's moveset, if I'm playing vs another TR team I use Imprison, if not I go to Trick Room mode. From there it really depends on the opposing Pokemon, but often times I switch Machamp in and Smeargle then Transforms into it and both of them begin to pound away with Dynamicpunch and Rock Slide. Lapras was another Pokemon Smeargle enjoys Transforming into, with both using Surf and gaining HP every turn, and Perish Song is a tremendous life saver as it shortens the time in which the opponent can win, reducing the game to 3 turns if they only have 2 Pokemon left (thats not the only time it can be used though). As part of the dual mode every Pokemon on the team has 76 Speed so it can operate effectively depending on the mode being used, so those of you saying its TR or it is Anti-TR are both wrong, it is TR AND Anti-TR.
Using Imprison to counter Trick Room was actually a fairly common approach to stopping Trick Room teams at last years VGC.I'm upset that I didn't take credit for the Imprison+TR idea earlier when I posted it on SkarmBliss.
what taunters exactly are you trying to avoid with 80 speed EVs? thats only 10 extra speed points at level 50 and remember dusknoir is only 45 base speedPherhaps is to avoid taunt... i know that 80 ev's are a lot, but i think that he believes that is better to be safe
Somewhat OT, but about your team over at SkarmBliss: Focus Sash protects against all hits of a multi-attack move like Double Hit. So Double Hit Kangaskhan won't help against those L1 Smeargles.what taunters exactly are you trying to avoid with 80 speed EVs? thats only 10 extra speed points at level 50 and remember dusknoir is only 45 base speed
commong taunters are gyarados azelf and heatran, which those points do not even come close to being faster, also those speed EVs wont prevent trick room from being tautned since TR has negative priority, so really you are trying to get imprison up i believe but with fake out smeargle you should be able to just fake out the taunter
well, they don´t actually have 76 speed, only machamp doesteam
As part of the dual mode every Pokemon on the team has 76 Speed so it can operate effectively depending on the mode being used, so those of you saying its TR or it is Anti-TR are both wrong, it is TR AND Anti-TR.
Dusknoir has access to taunt too.. Pherhaps less speed ev's may work, but it seems that he doesn't take that risk, or pherhaps is to outspeed a determinate bulky pokemon used in trick room teams, such as Metagrosswhat taunters exactly are you trying to avoid with 80 speed EVs? thats only 10 extra speed points at level 50 and remember dusknoir is only 45 base speed
commong taunters are gyarados azelf and heatran, which those points do not even come close to being faster, also those speed EVs wont prevent trick room from being tautned since TR has negative priority, so really you are trying to get imprison up i believe but with fake out smeargle you should be able to just fake out the taunter
Yep, I completely understand where you are coming from, and there are times where I do wish I a set order to the speed, and I was going to change it very last minute after a bit of late testing where often times I wish I could Transform into Lapras and get the HP boost it would provide with Surf. However, situations where I wish I knew the order of my attacks came up very rarely as most often times Smeargle would be Transformed into Machamp and they would have tied speed regardless if I had planned it or not. And regarding your example, I often times play with risk and in that situation I would Ice Beam Garchomp and Dynamicpunch Metagross regardless of speed, I'd much rather kill Chomp and risk a 50% chance of Gross hitting itself. It's just these situations rarely came up enough for me to do anything beyond considering it, if the team works out like I designed it (which is obviously not always the case) my teams speed ties don't really matter.Stuff
It's been stated by those who have attended Seattle/San Fran that there are indeed sheets at the event.It's a pun to be misspelled like the user Steelicks' username.
I got a question, do you have to bring the team information sheet, or can you fill it out on arrival? I might change some things last minute.
Just posting to say that, although I haven't done anything in forever, I'm most likely going to be participating in the Nashville, TN tournament.
I've got a lot of catching up to do...
Um... are you being serious? That honestly isn't a very good combo...I would put a Relaxed Tangrowth and a Marowak.
Imprison affects both opponents so Follow Me will have no effect on it in anyway, which means a yes to your question.Question:
So if a pokemon uses follow me imprison still hits the poke you wanted 2?
What you saidim going to phoenix.... hopefully the 5 hour drive isnt a waste.