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HGSS Megaspeculation Thread

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Anyone else plan on pre-ordering the jap version for purchase?

Even though I won't have a clue what they're saying.. I need it.. :heart:
 
I know basically no Japanese, only the basics of the basics like Hello, Goodbye and What is your name etc...

So I must buy the US version which is always a painful wait.
 
Who needs to understand Japanese? I can always get one from the US when it comes out there if I care about the language that much.

Plus, I honestly like the fact that the tutor moves are bought with BP. Hunting shards is a pain to put it lightly.
 
I know basically no Japanese, only the basics of the basics like Hello, Goodbye and What is your name etc...

So I must buy the US version which is always a painful wait.
all the Pokemon games have basically the same plot so it shouldn't be too hard to figure out, even if you don't understand what the characters are saying.
 
Well, at this point we know:

1) There will be far too many legendaries
2) There will be new sprites
3) There are many new locations (including a Frontier)
4) There are Pokemon availible from every region pre-national dex
5) From what I can tell by the icons, this version will be more "high-gloss" than the originals
6) The Elite Four will be updated (Karen had what like three dark types?)
7) The whole game will be overhauled.

Expect to hear loads of new information the next few weeks, anyway.
 
Too many legendaries?

Honestly, when you complain about stuff like that, it feels like you all are just looking for stupid shit to bitch about.
 
Nah, it's a valid argument. It would be like having 17 Master Swords in a Zelda game - they all be awesomely super special. When you have soooo many legendaries, none of them seem like legends at all.
 
Nah, it's a valid argument. It would be like having 17 Master Swords in a Zelda game - they all be awesomely super special. When you have soooo many legendaries, none of them seem like legends at all.
Yeah (keeping up with sword reference) its a double-edged blade, Its not a bad thing to have so many legends, it prevents people from absolutely having to buy another game just to get one Legendary that they want.
 
They made these legends avavilable for many reasons.

You don't have to pal park shit anymore for those who have a dsi and others who don't have access to gba games.

Also, with VGC ubers coming up, the legends are at level 50.
 
I actually like Soul Silver's (English) logo. About the 'too many legends' thing, I don't care; actually I like it, since it gives me more chances to SR stuff.
 
To be fair, I've heard the amount of Japanese you'd actually need to know to play the games is a good Elementary Schooler's worth, which would make sense, considering its demographic. Could be wrong, but that's what I've heard...
3-4 years of learning Japanese should be enough, I can plow through Platinum in Japanese easily, even though I've never played it.
 
I am sure that it won't be that hard to understand the game if it is in japanese. From what I've heard, if you know a couple words than you can go through the game without being confused (although the town/city names might be challenging to understand).

About the 'too many legendaries', I really don't care as long as there are decent legendary pokemon's available in game (I really didn't care about being able to catch cresselia or regigigas from platinum).
 
No such thing as too many legendaries(just no more Regis, I have 3 sets already!).
What if every Pokemon in the game was legendary?

The truth is, with so many legendaries, a lot just feel as if they're not worth the effort. Many have horrible movesets (particularly the birds), horrible stats, horrible abilities, and horrible design all over (regis and pixies). Here are some Pokemon I would rather strip of the legendary title and just make them very rare in the wild, unbreedable (like unown) and impossible to find (like feebas):

- Articuno
- Moltres
- Regirock
- Regice
- Mespirit
- Uxie
- Entei
- Raikou
- Regigas
- Jiranchi
- Shaymin

Anyways, I feel as if the game has been lacking of "rare" Pokemon for a while. By "rare", I don't mean event Pokemon or one-of-per-game Pokemon. I mean Pokemon that are rare because serious in-game effort needs to be invested to obtain them. Legendaries are so unmeaningful because, let's face it, they are VERY common. For example, I bet there are more Palkias and Dialgas out there than there are Porygon-Zs. I want there to be more Pokemon out there for the serious Pokemon fanatic (ex. Unown ! and Unown ?).
 
The main reason I'm looking forward to this is because of celebi.

Almost every other legend can be rng'd. Also, these aren't a lot of good celebi's out there except Jibaku's.
 
I know it's a six-page old post, but

I hope Gamefreak revamps the cries for the first 251 Pokemon. I don't want to go through all of HG/SS and have to listen to those mechanized chirps and gurgles from 1995.

http://ds.ign.com/dor/objects/14348187/pokemon-heart-gold/videos/Pokemon_trl_video_81409.html

Just skip to the last 15 seconds or so. Lugia's cry clearly was NOT revamped. Actually, I noticed just now that the final bit of its cry reminds me of Magikarp's... :(
 
The truth is, with so many legendaries, a lot just feel as if they're not worth the effort. Many have horrible movesets (particularly the birds), horrible stats, horrible abilities, and horrible design all over (regis and pixies). Here are some Pokemon I would rather strip of the legendary title and just make them very rare in the wild, unbreedable (like unown) and impossible to find (like feebas):

- Articuno
- Moltres
- Regirock
- Regice
- Mespirit
- Uxie
- Entei
- Raikou
- Regigas
- Jiranchi
- Shaymin

Registeel should be on that list just like the other "legendary golems". Some other legendaries should be on that list (I laugh at some of the new legendaries from platinum) and I find it fun how Entei can actually be common. Does anyone find it weird that Dialga and Palkia have a pretty high catch rate? Personally, I don't really care that much about legendaries with the exception of lati@s.

Going back on topic, I think that Tyranitar has an okay sprite and it looks as thought they didn't change the back sprite much.
 
What if every Pokemon in the game was legendary?

The truth is, with so many legendaries, a lot just feel as if they're not worth the effort. Many have horrible movesets (particularly the birds), horrible stats, horrible abilities, and horrible design all over (regis and pixies). Here are some Pokemon I would rather strip of the legendary title and just make them very rare in the wild, unbreedable (like unown) and impossible to find (like feebas):

- Articuno
- Moltres
- Regirock
- Regice
- Mespirit
- Uxie
- Entei
- Raikou
- Regigas
- Jiranchi
- Shaymin

Anyways, I feel as if the game has been lacking of "rare" Pokemon for a while. By "rare", I don't mean event Pokemon or one-of-per-game Pokemon. I mean Pokemon that are rare because serious in-game effort needs to be invested to obtain them. Legendaries are so unmeaningful because, let's face it, they are VERY common. For example, I bet there are more Palkias and Dialgas out there than there are Porygon-Zs. I want there to be more Pokemon out there for the serious Pokemon fanatic (ex. Unown ! and Unown ?).

Besides Regigigas, all of those pokemon you mentioned are very good in the right hands, and many of them are difficult to catch in comparison to the older generations(as of now, the beasts are much more difficult). I don't mean to flame, but the generic "too many legendaries for one game" phrase is quite annoying and repetitive, and makes you sound like a RBY fanboy that only wants Mewtwo(and Mew) and the birds. Not every legendary needs to be Uber, they all play a role in the world of pokemon, and pokemon isn't just about competitive battling. I find it contradictory, how you have two legendaries who perform very well w/out Stealth Rock (Articuno, Moltres) categorized on the same list as five (Regirock, Registeel, Mesprit, Uxie, Jirachi) of the best pokemon who can set it up.

The competitive debate is moot, since that list is completely flawed. Regirock, Registeel, Mesprit, Uxie, Shaymin, and Jirachi all perform adequately in OU, while the rest(barring Regigigas) perform very well in UU.

Now, as for the "rarity" aspect, the birds, beasts, golems, and pixies have a catch rate of 3, and all but the golems roam. These catch rates are the equivalent of pokemon you haven't listed, namely Mewtwo, Rayquaza, hell, it is even lower than Groudon and Kyogre. So, when thinking of "rarity" something else comes to mind; quantity. Well, given that there are only 1 of each in every game(mind you, the beasts had to be caught in Colosseum or FRLG), I would assume you are overwhelmed by any number of legendaries greater than 6(GSC).

Oh yeah, nice tidbit for ya, Lati twins also have a catch rate of 3.
 
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