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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

mattj said:
Quick Q. Can I use the Method 1 spreads from that Excell sheet for Method 1 pokes in HG? I assume yes...

Also, I'm a Nazi when it comes to 0spd in TR, but all the "Special" TR spreads have 2s or 3s so you can get good HPs. However, I don't care much about HPs most of the time and just want a flat 0spd. How can I a list of good easy 0spd quiet spreads (or at least the seeds) for a Kyogre?

Oh, and what Methods are the legendaries in HG? Can't seem to find a list...
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This is a general set of rules for all Pokemon.

If you fight it immediately upon talking to its sprite, it's Method K (J in DPPt).
If you fight it in grass\water\caves but is NOT a runner, it's Method K (J in DPPt).
If it's a runner, it's Method 1.
If it's a gift Pokemon (like the Game Corner, Dragon Den man, etc.) it's Method 1.
 
OmegaDonut said:
This is a general set of rules for all Pokemon.

If you fight it immediately upon talking to its sprite, it's Method K (J in DPPt).
If you fight it in grass\water\caves but is NOT a runner, it's Method K (J in DPPt).
If it's a runner, it's Method 1.
If it's a gift Pokemon (like the Game Corner, Dragon Den man, etc.) it's Method 1.
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Wonderful. Excelent, and clear advice. :)
 
I hit my seed (as verified by coin flips) but missed the frame. I was using a Synchroniser, and the Pokemon (Dialga) I caught didn't match the nature of my Synchroniser. Does this mean my frame was off by one? Did I take the wrong number of steps? Or do messages about GTS trades in the Journal advance the RNG?
 
I would have, but I'm still new to RNGReporter, wasn't quite sure how. Too late now anyway. I'll have another go tomorrow.

Another question: Can I switch from the Coin Flip to the Step Counter, avoiding any other apps (by hitting the change button fast enough) without advancing the RNG?
 
pablens28 said:
oke ppl im trying to rng hatch abuse i already have the shiny ability and all of that. what i dont have is that i cant get the frame right! My target frame is 12 and i imput the time of what it asked me in my ds which is 16:06:14 (i actually put 16:15:00 which is 1 less of a minute and all the seconds then i calibrate it to my pc one) then when it turns to the next minute in my phone i press oke in the pc and the ds then turn off the ds and go in normally then when the time goes 16:06:00 I SR and tap like crazy and get my 14 seconds right at the moment (now my actual frame is 8 and minus my target frame is 12 and divided by 2 = to 2) so now the journal popouts and the captured/defeated pokemon is the first page that popouts so I then flip twice from the page before the captured/defeated pokemon and press start so the journal would exit and tap before the NPC move collect my egg and do the coin flips and compare it to the adjacent list in my time finder.

My question is am i doing this right?
I did the flips and all and not one coin flip matches the adjacent list.. why is this?
I tried 2 flips, 5 flips and i tried 1 flip and nothing not even one match in the adjacent list... why is this?
One more thing does the method matter ? what i mean is i put DPPT Breeding and then choose time seed finder does it matter?
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just reposting =/
 
First off, Pablens, sentences are your friend. ;)

As for your question, from what I understood, you're saying the first page that pops up has the caught / defeated message? If so, this counts as a journal flip. So if you're flipping twice after this, you're actually hitting frame 14, and not 12. If it is your first journal page, you only have to do one flip, otherwise, do two flips. If that's not helping, then don't forget that you still need to hit your delay as well as your target time, and your target frame. Hopefully, I was of some help.
 
yea you were hehe :) the thing is im trying the rng abuse with the hardest stuff of them all xD!! and it is pretty hard but im getting there! only need that perfect ivs hehe thx :)!
 
cantab said:
I would have, but I'm still new to RNGReporter, wasn't quite sure how. Too late now anyway. I'll have another go tomorrow.

Another question: Can I switch from the Coin Flip to the Step Counter, avoiding any other apps (by hitting the change button fast enough) without advancing the RNG?
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None of the other apps advance the RNG (except for the happiness checker, which only affects the RNG the coin flips and egg PIDs use). It doesn't matter whether you go over them fast or slow.
 
Groved said:
First off, Pablens, sentences are your friend. ;)

As for your question, from what I understood, you're saying the first page that pops up has the caught / defeated message? If so, this counts as a journal flip. So if you're flipping twice after this, you're actually hitting frame 14, and not 12. If it is your first journal page, you only have to do one flip, otherwise, do two flips. If that's not helping, then don't forget that you still need to hit your delay as well as your target time, and your target frame. Hopefully, I was of some help.
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No, if he calibrated with a caught pokemon on the first page, it does not count as a flip. Regardless, pablens if you're not finding your coin flip sequence in the adjacent frames, try expanding the frames it searches (like make parameters for the delay +-20 or maybe more). If that doesn't work, then chances are for whatever reason you are way off of your target time. You really should be watching a clock that shows the seconds at the very least, because otherwise you will be very inconsistent as to when you are resetting your game.
 
hi people i need some help with the rng iv that im doing via hatching.

My target frame is 12 and the delay is 601 but i got a frame of 10 and delay of 608 i know i got this because of the coin flips. What should i do next? do everything again untill i get the perfect ivs or what?
 
Is there a way to get a specific swarming pokémon? Or do you just have to wait until you see that the pokémon you want is the daily pokémon and then RNG abuse as normal?
 
riddlinkid said:
No, if he calibrated with a caught pokemon on the first page, it does not count as a flip.
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Ummm, I was pretty sure it did count as a flip. It works for me, and it's even in Bearsfan's "demo" video on youtube lol... >.>

@ Pablens28 - You might want to find a new target spread, since I'm unsure of how to hit an odd delay w/o changing the year. Otherwise just reset and keep trying, that's all there is to it.
 
Groved said:
Ummm, I was pretty sure it did count as a flip. It works for me, and it's even in Bearsfan's "demo" video on youtube lol... >.>

@ Pablens28 - You might want to find a new target spread, since I'm unsure of how to hit an odd delay w/o changing the year. Otherwise just reset and keep trying, that's all there is to it.
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Well, I'm not going to argue with you because you seem to be one of those people who knows everything, but really it depends on the context of what he is doing (which is breeding). If he is calibrating while breeding with a caught pokemon coming up, that extra 2 frames will already be accounted for when he checks his egg's frame, so his process with 2 journal flips is correct. Of course if he's talking about capturing, then yes the frame would count for advancement. However, I'm pretty sure that's not what he's talking about lol...............

If you're hitting delays that are even and you want odd, try removing/inserting a game in the GBA slot.

Edit: Timetwister - to get a specific swarm pokemon, I believe the process is something like save in front of the girl, then move the time to 23:59. Go into the game (must be before the clock changes to the next day), talk to her after it changes days. If it is not the pokemon you want, save again, and repeat. If it is the pokemon you want, save and proceed to RNG the pokemon, making sure that the clock does not change days (from 23:59 to 00:00) again. You can change the date all you want after you have your target swarm pokemon out, just don't let the clock flip over to midnight.
 
Since neither RNG Reporter's Time Finder or PokéRNG can search through Wonder Card spreads, can I find my desired Wonder Card spread by finding a Method 1 spread I like, then taking its seed and using it to find the same spread under Wonder Cards? I know that you can do this with Method J, but I wasn't sure if it worked with Wonder Cards as well since they are nature-less. If not, how can I search through them?

EDIT: Okay, I see the table of several good spreads, but I'd still like to know how to search through them.
 
riddlinkid said:
Well, I'm not going to argue with you because you seem to be one of those people who knows everything, but really it depends on the context of what he is doing (which is breeding). If he is calibrating while breeding with a caught pokemon coming up, that extra 2 frames will already be accounted for when he checks his egg's frame, so his process with 2 journal flips is correct. Of course if he's talking about capturing, then yes the frame would count for advancement. However, I'm pretty sure that's not what he's talking about lol...............

If you're hitting delays that are even and you want odd, try removing/inserting a game in the GBA slot.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncLVknVQyc8&feature=related skip to roughly 7:30, thanks.

Essentially, you're arguing with me, so why bother including your first statement? That's just labeling yourself as a prick in my books. Unfortunately, I was just trying to help the kid since he was ignored... most likely due to his terrible English.

However, I will thank you for delay tip, I was unaware that the GBA slot affected it.
 
Wow...if you would have read what I said you would understand how it is, believe it or not (I know, it's amazing right?), correct. As I said two different times already, if he had the journal open to a caught pokemon page while calibrating, that it would not count as a flip. Do you understand now that I've underlined it for you? I haven't watched any of bearsfan's videos until now, but the way he does it is not the same way as in the article. In the article it says to keep the journal on auto-open while calibrating. You can see in the video that bearsfan does not have it auto-open, so of course when he changes it to where it does auto-open to a caught pokemon page, yes it will count as a flip. The way the article has you do it is that the journal will auto-open to the same page while calibrating AND while going for your target spread, meaning that anything on the first page is irrelevant to how many flips you need to do. Doing it that way will give you a much more consistent frame than shown in the video. I know, I used to do it that way too. Pablens unforunately did not give us enough information to know which way he was doing it, so who knows which answer would actually help his case. You can call me whatever the hell you want in your "books." Whether you like it or not, I actually know what I'm talking about.
 
I dont know if this has been posted before, but i found it while accidently and think it might be useful to a lot of people.

http://dppt.x-treem.nl/

the website has a list of seeds with the spread data and nature and allows you to search by lots of different criteria.
 
Well, I'd like to help you but your post is kind of confusing. Are you saying that the delay you are hitting is 938 when you want to hit 940 and vice versa? Or something with the emloop page itself?
 
What do you mean you repeat afterwards? Like you repeat the step again? If you're consistently getting 938 and 940, that means you should start trying to hit your target spread using one of those delays. Maybe I'm not understanding something, but I'm not seeing an actual problem with what you're saying.
 
Is my delay range going to be the same on all Platinum files I play, and likewise with all D/P files I play (but not the same between Plat and D/P), or not?
 
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