Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

Blackcharizard said:
would I be correct in saying , to advance my encounter slots I would need to check which encounter slot I am on them battle all the pokemon up until the pokemon before the encounter slot I want.

e.g I start on an encounter slot of 4 and my pokemon is on an encounter slot of 7, would I battle pokemon 4 , 5 and 6 then the next battle get the pokemon I want?
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Nope, that is not how it works.

For a frame, which Pokemon you battle will always be that of the slot which was reported in RNG Reporter. Having another battle just brings you to a different frame which will have a different encounter slot.
 
Blackcharizard said:
would I be correct in saying , to advance my encounter slots I would need to check which encounter slot I am on them battle all the pokemon up until the pokemon before the encounter slot I want.

e.g I start on an encounter slot of 4 and my pokemon is on an encounter slot of 7, would I battle pokemon 4 , 5 and 6 then the next battle get the pokemon I want?
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No i think Dan Dan is right on this, just pick a Frame from your Seed that matches the Encounter Slot of the Pokemon you want and it will list a Frame advance it and then you should have your poke :D
Dan Dan said:
I don't think they go up in order...although I could be wrong.

@Stevee - That's because Beldum is a Swarm, not a PokeRadar specific 'mon. I think Flygon is the PokeRadar critter for that area..I'm guessing Supe started a chain to get his one.
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Oh ok.... Damn now i gotta keep trying to find a specific spot where i can get a Togepi to chain XD Thanks!
 
Can you advance the frame to your target frame simply by walking "X" amount of steps, obviously assuming the frame is >5? I know it will take longer than flipping the journal, but with the step counter app it seems like it would be easier(slower, but easier). I keep hitting my delays but I miss my frame by +-2 frames because I flip one too many/few. IE, I want to hit a 2140 frame, and each 5 frame advancements is equal to 128 steps. Can I just walk 54,784 steps?

EDIT: It probably seems like this is a stupid question, but in the other RNG guide for capturing a perfect pokemon it states: "Any more and it is possible that the RNG will advance again and throw off your calculations."
 
One last question on PokeRadar Abuse XD I know the Patches that show up depend on your Seed, and i know if you take a step(s) it changes it as well, instead of taking a Step(s) could i just use my Journal to advance it? And if i do will it change the Patches that show up?
EDIT: JRT yes NPC's affect your Frame no matter where you are :) That is if there moving of course
 
JRT said:
Does anyone know if the turning npc in the mining museum on platinum affects the frame at all?
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Um anyone?? Just wondering so I know if I can abuse the fossils the same way in diamond, or if I need to do the journal flips first.
 
JRT said:
Um anyone?? Just wondering so I know if I can abuse the fossils the same way in diamond, or if I need to do the journal flips first.
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Iirc, if it moves in a fixed pattern (repeats the same action) then it doesn't affect the frame, if it's random then it will.
 
Steveebomb7134 said:
One last question on PokeRadar Abuse XD I know the Patches that show up depend on your Seed, and i know if you take a step(s) it changes it as well, instead of taking a Step(s) could i just use my Journal to advance it? And if i do will it change the Patches that show up?
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Journal Flips only advance the frame...the same thing as turning twice or turning and walking. Test it out though and see what you get, all this is useful info for me if I ever decide to not use chaining :P

Steveebomb7134 said:
EDIT: JRT yes NPC's affect your Frame no matter where you are :) That is if they're not moving on a set path of course
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nitpick :x
 
Does anyone have a list of the 256 PIDs that the Pokewalker can create with the coresponding natures and abilities?

Also, if I remember correctly, Pokewalker Pokemon, like eggs, don't have their PID and IVs coupled.
 
Is Spiritomb method 1 or method J? I looked through the tables for both in the guide and couldn't find it (I might be temporarily blind, though)...

EDIT: I'm also still looking for a reverse-RNG formula, such that when I put the seed into it, I get the seed that came before it.
 
Ferrouswheel said:
If you mean the seed that you would have gotten with one frame of delay less, all you do is subtract 1 from the seed you got.
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I'm looking for something that steps back the random number generator's sequence of numbers. For example, the sequence of numbers starts off 0, 6073, e97e7b6a, 52713895, 31b0dde4, and 8e425287. Therefore I am looking for a formula that would go 8e425287, 31b0dde4, 52713895, etc.
 
pikachu25 said:
I'm looking for something that steps back the random number generator's sequence of numbers. For example, the sequence of numbers starts off 0, 6073, e97e7b6a, 52713895, 31b0dde4, and 8e425287. Therefore I am looking for a formula that would go 8e425287, 31b0dde4, 52713895, etc.
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Yeah, I'm a total math noob, but I believe mingnot posted a "reverse RNG formula" in the FR/LG research thread.
 
mattj said:
Yeah, I'm a total math noob, but I believe mingnot posted a "reverse RNG formula" in the FR/LG research thread.
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Thank you!

So to put my other question on a new page, is Spiritomb method 1 or method J? I looked in the guide, but it is left off of the lists for some reason.
 
pikachu25 said:
Thank you!

So to put my other question on a new page, is Spiritomb method 1 or method J? I looked in the guide, but it is left off of the lists for some reason.
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Only bred the dudes. Never activated mine. When you use that rock and visit however many people in the underground that you are supposed to, does it just stand there and then you walk up to it and press A to "encounter" it? If so, it's method J. If it's some kind of gift or it's a runner (yeah right!xD), then it's method 1.
 
volch said:
Does anyone have a list of the 256 PIDs that the Pokewalker can create with the coresponding natures and abilities?

Also, if I remember correctly, Pokewalker Pokemon, like eggs, don't have their PID and IVs coupled.
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Code: 
PID (Decimal)	PID (Hex)	Nature	Ability	25% M	50% M	75% M	87.5% M
3590323968	D5FFFF00	Bashful	0	F	F	F	F
3590323969	D5FFFF01	Rash	1	F	F	F	F
3590323970	D5FFFF02	Calm	0	F	F	F	F
3590323971	D5FFFF03	Gentle	1	F	F	F	F
3590323972	D5FFFF04	Sassy	0	F	F	F	F
3590323973	D5FFFF05	Careful	1	F	F	F	F
3590323974	D5FFFF06	Quirky	0	F	F	F	F
3590323975	D5FFFF07	Hardy	1	F	F	F	F
3590323976	D5FFFF08	Lonely	0	F	F	F	F
3590323977	D5FFFF09	Brave	1	F	F	F	F
3590323978	D5FFFF0A	Adamant	0	F	F	F	F
3590323979	D5FFFF0B	Naughty	1	F	F	F	F
3590323980	D5FFFF0C	Bold	0	F	F	F	F
3590323981	D5FFFF0D	Docile	1	F	F	F	F
3590323982	D5FFFF0E	Relaxed	0	F	F	F	F
3590323983	D5FFFF0F	Impish	1	F	F	F	F
3590323984	D5FFFF10	Lax	0	F	F	F	F
3590323985	D5FFFF11	Timid	1	F	F	F	F
3590323986	D5FFFF12	Hasty	0	F	F	F	F
3590323987	D5FFFF13	Serious	1	F	F	F	F
3590323988	D5FFFF14	Jolly	0	F	F	F	F
3590323989	D5FFFF15	Naive	1	F	F	F	F
3590323990	D5FFFF16	Modest	0	F	F	F	F
3590323991	D5FFFF17	Mild	1	F	F	F	F
3590323992	D5FFFF18	Quiet	0	F	F	F	F
3590323993	D5FFFF19	Bashful	1	F	F	F	F
3590323994	D5FFFF1A	Rash	0	F	F	F	F
3590323995	D5FFFF1B	Calm	1	F	F	F	F
3590323996	D5FFFF1C	Gentle	0	F	F	F	F
3590323997	D5FFFF1D	Sassy	1	F	F	F	F
3590323998	D5FFFF1E	Careful	0	F	F	F	F
3590323999	D5FFFF1F	Quirky	1	F	F	F	F
3590324000	D5FFFF20	Hardy	0	F	F	F	M
3590324001	D5FFFF21	Lonely	1	F	F	F	M
3590324002	D5FFFF22	Brave	0	F	F	F	M
3590324003	D5FFFF23	Adamant	1	F	F	F	M
3590324004	D5FFFF24	Naughty	0	F	F	F	M
3590324005	D5FFFF25	Bold	1	F	F	F	M
3590324006	D5FFFF26	Docile	0	F	F	F	M
3590324007	D5FFFF27	Relaxed	1	F	F	F	M
3590324008	D5FFFF28	Impish	0	F	F	F	M
3590324009	D5FFFF29	Lax	1	F	F	F	M
3590324010	D5FFFF2A	Timid	0	F	F	F	M
3590324011	D5FFFF2B	Hasty	1	F	F	F	M
3590324012	D5FFFF2C	Serious	0	F	F	F	M
3590324013	D5FFFF2D	Jolly	1	F	F	F	M
3590324014	D5FFFF2E	Naive	0	F	F	F	M
3590324015	D5FFFF2F	Modest	1	F	F	F	M
3590324016	D5FFFF30	Mild	0	F	F	F	M
3590324017	D5FFFF31	Quiet	1	F	F	F	M
3590324018	D5FFFF32	Bashful	0	F	F	F	M
3590324019	D5FFFF33	Rash	1	F	F	F	M
3590324020	D5FFFF34	Calm	0	F	F	F	M
3590324021	D5FFFF35	Gentle	1	F	F	F	M
3590324022	D5FFFF36	Sassy	0	F	F	F	M
3590324023	D5FFFF37	Careful	1	F	F	F	M
3590324024	D5FFFF38	Quirky	0	F	F	F	M
3590324025	D5FFFF39	Hardy	1	F	F	F	M
3590324026	D5FFFF3A	Lonely	0	F	F	F	M
3590324027	D5FFFF3B	Brave	1	F	F	F	M
3590324028	D5FFFF3C	Adamant	0	F	F	F	M
3590324029	D5FFFF3D	Naughty	1	F	F	F	M
3590324030	D5FFFF3E	Bold	0	F	F	F	M
3590324031	D5FFFF3F	Docile	1	F	F	F	M
3590324032	D5FFFF40	Relaxed	0	F	F	M	M
3590324033	D5FFFF41	Impish	1	F	F	M	M
3590324034	D5FFFF42	Lax	0	F	F	M	M
3590324035	D5FFFF43	Timid	1	F	F	M	M
3590324036	D5FFFF44	Hasty	0	F	F	M	M
3590324037	D5FFFF45	Serious	1	F	F	M	M
3590324038	D5FFFF46	Jolly	0	F	F	M	M
3590324039	D5FFFF47	Naive	1	F	F	M	M
3590324040	D5FFFF48	Modest	0	F	F	M	M
3590324041	D5FFFF49	Mild	1	F	F	M	M
3590324042	D5FFFF4A	Quiet	0	F	F	M	M
3590324043	D5FFFF4B	Bashful	1	F	F	M	M
3590324044	D5FFFF4C	Rash	0	F	F	M	M
3590324045	D5FFFF4D	Calm	1	F	F	M	M
3590324046	D5FFFF4E	Gentle	0	F	F	M	M
3590324047	D5FFFF4F	Sassy	1	F	F	M	M
3590324048	D5FFFF50	Careful	0	F	F	M	M
3590324049	D5FFFF51	Quirky	1	F	F	M	M
3590324050	D5FFFF52	Hardy	0	F	F	M	M
3590324051	D5FFFF53	Lonely	1	F	F	M	M
3590324052	D5FFFF54	Brave	0	F	F	M	M
3590324053	D5FFFF55	Adamant	1	F	F	M	M
3590324054	D5FFFF56	Naughty	0	F	F	M	M
3590324055	D5FFFF57	Bold	1	F	F	M	M
3590324056	D5FFFF58	Docile	0	F	F	M	M
3590324057	D5FFFF59	Relaxed	1	F	F	M	M
3590324058	D5FFFF5A	Impish	0	F	F	M	M
3590324059	D5FFFF5B	Lax	1	F	F	M	M
3590324060	D5FFFF5C	Timid	0	F	F	M	M
3590324061	D5FFFF5D	Hasty	1	F	F	M	M
3590324062	D5FFFF5E	Serious	0	F	F	M	M
3590324063	D5FFFF5F	Jolly	1	F	F	M	M
3590324064	D5FFFF60	Naive	0	F	F	M	M
3590324065	D5FFFF61	Modest	1	F	F	M	M
3590324066	D5FFFF62	Mild	0	F	F	M	M
3590324067	D5FFFF63	Quiet	1	F	F	M	M
3590324068	D5FFFF64	Bashful	0	F	F	M	M
3590324069	D5FFFF65	Rash	1	F	F	M	M
3590324070	D5FFFF66	Calm	0	F	F	M	M
3590324071	D5FFFF67	Gentle	1	F	F	M	M
3590324072	D5FFFF68	Sassy	0	F	F	M	M
3590324073	D5FFFF69	Careful	1	F	F	M	M
3590324074	D5FFFF6A	Quirky	0	F	F	M	M
3590324075	D5FFFF6B	Hardy	1	F	F	M	M
3590324076	D5FFFF6C	Lonely	0	F	F	M	M
3590324077	D5FFFF6D	Brave	1	F	F	M	M
3590324078	D5FFFF6E	Adamant	0	F	F	M	M
3590324079	D5FFFF6F	Naughty	1	F	F	M	M
3590324080	D5FFFF70	Bold	0	F	F	M	M
3590324081	D5FFFF71	Docile	1	F	F	M	M
3590324082	D5FFFF72	Relaxed	0	F	F	M	M
3590324083	D5FFFF73	Impish	1	F	F	M	M
3590324084	D5FFFF74	Lax	0	F	F	M	M
3590324085	D5FFFF75	Timid	1	F	F	M	M
3590324086	D5FFFF76	Hasty	0	F	F	M	M
3590324087	D5FFFF77	Serious	1	F	F	M	M
3590324088	D5FFFF78	Jolly	0	F	F	M	M
3590324089	D5FFFF79	Naive	1	F	F	M	M
3590324090	D5FFFF7A	Modest	0	F	F	M	M
3590324091	D5FFFF7B	Mild	1	F	F	M	M
3590324092	D5FFFF7C	Quiet	0	F	F	M	M
3590324093	D5FFFF7D	Bashful	1	F	F	M	M
3590324094	D5FFFF7E	Rash	0	F	F	M	M
3590324095	D5FFFF7F	Calm	1	F	F	M	M
3590324096	D5FFFF80	Gentle	0	F	M	M	M
3590324097	D5FFFF81	Sassy	1	F	M	M	M
3590324098	D5FFFF82	Careful	0	F	M	M	M
3590324099	D5FFFF83	Quirky	1	F	M	M	M
3590324100	D5FFFF84	Hardy	0	F	M	M	M
3590324101	D5FFFF85	Lonely	1	F	M	M	M
3590324102	D5FFFF86	Brave	0	F	M	M	M
3590324103	D5FFFF87	Adamant	1	F	M	M	M
3590324104	D5FFFF88	Naughty	0	F	M	M	M
3590324105	D5FFFF89	Bold	1	F	M	M	M
3590324106	D5FFFF8A	Docile	0	F	M	M	M
3590324107	D5FFFF8B	Relaxed	1	F	M	M	M
3590324108	D5FFFF8C	Impish	0	F	M	M	M
3590324109	D5FFFF8D	Lax	1	F	M	M	M
3590324110	D5FFFF8E	Timid	0	F	M	M	M
3590324111	D5FFFF8F	Hasty	1	F	M	M	M
3590324112	D5FFFF90	Serious	0	F	M	M	M
3590324113	D5FFFF91	Jolly	1	F	M	M	M
3590324114	D5FFFF92	Naive	0	F	M	M	M
3590324115	D5FFFF93	Modest	1	F	M	M	M
3590324116	D5FFFF94	Mild	0	F	M	M	M
3590324117	D5FFFF95	Quiet	1	F	M	M	M
3590324118	D5FFFF96	Bashful	0	F	M	M	M
3590324119	D5FFFF97	Rash	1	F	M	M	M
3590324120	D5FFFF98	Calm	0	F	M	M	M
3590324121	D5FFFF99	Gentle	1	F	M	M	M
3590324122	D5FFFF9A	Sassy	0	F	M	M	M
3590324123	D5FFFF9B	Careful	1	F	M	M	M
3590324124	D5FFFF9C	Quirky	0	F	M	M	M
3590324125	D5FFFF9D	Hardy	1	F	M	M	M
3590324126	D5FFFF9E	Lonely	0	F	M	M	M
3590324127	D5FFFF9F	Brave	1	F	M	M	M
3590324128	D5FFFFA0	Adamant	0	F	M	M	M
3590324129	D5FFFFA1	Naughty	1	F	M	M	M
3590324130	D5FFFFA2	Bold	0	F	M	M	M
3590324131	D5FFFFA3	Docile	1	F	M	M	M
3590324132	D5FFFFA4	Relaxed	0	F	M	M	M
3590324133	D5FFFFA5	Impish	1	F	M	M	M
3590324134	D5FFFFA6	Lax	0	F	M	M	M
3590324135	D5FFFFA7	Timid	1	F	M	M	M
3590324136	D5FFFFA8	Hasty	0	F	M	M	M
3590324137	D5FFFFA9	Serious	1	F	M	M	M
3590324138	D5FFFFAA	Jolly	0	F	M	M	M
3590324139	D5FFFFAB	Naive	1	F	M	M	M
3590324140	D5FFFFAC	Modest	0	F	M	M	M
3590324141	D5FFFFAD	Mild	1	F	M	M	M
3590324142	D5FFFFAE	Quiet	0	F	M	M	M
3590324143	D5FFFFAF	Bashful	1	F	M	M	M
3590324144	D5FFFFB0	Rash	0	F	M	M	M
3590324145	D5FFFFB1	Calm	1	F	M	M	M
3590324146	D5FFFFB2	Gentle	0	F	M	M	M
3590324147	D5FFFFB3	Sassy	1	F	M	M	M
3590324148	D5FFFFB4	Careful	0	F	M	M	M
3590324149	D5FFFFB5	Quirky	1	F	M	M	M
3590324150	D5FFFFB6	Hardy	0	F	M	M	M
3590324151	D5FFFFB7	Lonely	1	F	M	M	M
3590324152	D5FFFFB8	Brave	0	F	M	M	M
3590324153	D5FFFFB9	Adamant	1	F	M	M	M
3590324154	D5FFFFBA	Naughty	0	F	M	M	M
3590324155	D5FFFFBB	Bold	1	F	M	M	M
3590324156	D5FFFFBC	Docile	0	F	M	M	M
3590324157	D5FFFFBD	Relaxed	1	F	M	M	M
3590324158	D5FFFFBE	Impish	0	F	M	M	M
3590324159	D5FFFFBF	Lax	1	F	M	M	M
3590324160	D5FFFFC0	Timid	0	M	M	M	M
3590324161	D5FFFFC1	Hasty	1	M	M	M	M
3590324162	D5FFFFC2	Serious	0	M	M	M	M
3590324163	D5FFFFC3	Jolly	1	M	M	M	M
3590324164	D5FFFFC4	Naive	0	M	M	M	M
3590324165	D5FFFFC5	Modest	1	M	M	M	M
3590324166	D5FFFFC6	Mild	0	M	M	M	M
3590324167	D5FFFFC7	Quiet	1	M	M	M	M
3590324168	D5FFFFC8	Bashful	0	M	M	M	M
3590324169	D5FFFFC9	Rash	1	M	M	M	M
3590324170	D5FFFFCA	Calm	0	M	M	M	M
3590324171	D5FFFFCB	Gentle	1	M	M	M	M
3590324172	D5FFFFCC	Sassy	0	M	M	M	M
3590324173	D5FFFFCD	Careful	1	M	M	M	M
3590324174	D5FFFFCE	Quirky	0	M	M	M	M
3590324175	D5FFFFCF	Hardy	1	M	M	M	M
3590324176	D5FFFFD0	Lonely	0	M	M	M	M
3590324177	D5FFFFD1	Brave	1	M	M	M	M
3590324178	D5FFFFD2	Adamant	0	M	M	M	M
3590324179	D5FFFFD3	Naughty	1	M	M	M	M
3590324180	D5FFFFD4	Bold	0	M	M	M	M
3590324181	D5FFFFD5	Docile	1	M	M	M	M
3590324182	D5FFFFD6	Relaxed	0	M	M	M	M
3590324183	D5FFFFD7	Impish	1	M	M	M	M
3590324184	D5FFFFD8	Lax	0	M	M	M	M
3590324185	D5FFFFD9	Timid	1	M	M	M	M
3590324186	D5FFFFDA	Hasty	0	M	M	M	M
3590324187	D5FFFFDB	Serious	1	M	M	M	M
3590324188	D5FFFFDC	Jolly	0	M	M	M	M
3590324189	D5FFFFDD	Naive	1	M	M	M	M
3590324190	D5FFFFDE	Modest	0	M	M	M	M
3590324191	D5FFFFDF	Mild	1	M	M	M	M
3590324192	D5FFFFE0	Quiet	0	M	M	M	M
3590324193	D5FFFFE1	Bashful	1	M	M	M	M
3590324194	D5FFFFE2	Rash	0	M	M	M	M
3590324195	D5FFFFE3	Calm	1	M	M	M	M
3590324196	D5FFFFE4	Gentle	0	M	M	M	M
3590324197	D5FFFFE5	Sassy	1	M	M	M	M
3590324198	D5FFFFE6	Careful	0	M	M	M	M
3590324199	D5FFFFE7	Quirky	1	M	M	M	M
3590324200	D5FFFFE8	Hardy	0	M	M	M	M
3590324201	D5FFFFE9	Lonely	1	M	M	M	M
3590324202	D5FFFFEA	Brave	0	M	M	M	M
3590324203	D5FFFFEB	Adamant	1	M	M	M	M
3590324204	D5FFFFEC	Naughty	0	M	M	M	M
3590324205	D5FFFFED	Bold	1	M	M	M	M
3590324206	D5FFFFEE	Docile	0	M	M	M	M
3590324207	D5FFFFEF	Relaxed	1	M	M	M	M
3590324208	D5FFFFF0	Impish	0	M	M	M	M
3590324209	D5FFFFF1	Lax	1	M	M	M	M
3590324210	D5FFFFF2	Timid	0	M	M	M	M
3590324211	D5FFFFF3	Hasty	1	M	M	M	M
3590324212	D5FFFFF4	Serious	0	M	M	M	M
3590324213	D5FFFFF5	Jolly	1	M	M	M	M
3590324214	D5FFFFF6	Naive	0	M	M	M	M
3590324215	D5FFFFF7	Modest	1	M	M	M	M
3590324216	D5FFFFF8	Mild	0	M	M	M	M
3590324217	D5FFFFF9	Quiet	1	M	M	M	M
3590324218	D5FFFFFA	Bashful	0	M	M	M	M
3590324219	D5FFFFFB	Rash	1	M	M	M	M
3590324220	D5FFFFFC	Calm	0	M	M	M	M
3590324221	D5FFFFFD	Gentle	1	M	M	M	M
3590324222	D5FFFFFE	Sassy	0	M	M	M	M
3590324223	D5FFFFFF	Careful	1	M	M	M	M

Note that according to Serebii, some Pokemon are restricted to a certain gender (Surfing Pikachu is all male, I think).
 
mattj said:
Crazy noobish question, but how would this info be useful to us "RNG'ers"?
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Well, he asked.

And off the top of my head, you can boost the odds of nabbing a shiny Surfing Pikachu even further (assuming you RNG'd for the right ID\SID combo). Since the Surfing Pikachu are all male the odds of running into a valid shiny PID would be boosted even further.
 
OmegaDonut said:
Well, he asked.

And off the top of my head, you can boost the odds of nabbing a shiny Surfing Pikachu even further (assuming you RNG'd for the right ID\SID combo). Since the Surfing Pikachu are all male only half of those PIDs will come up on the Pokewalker.
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Not doubting you for a moment. ;) Nobody knows of a way to get good IVs on one of these yet do they? A timid HP I 70 Surfing Raichu, or a Brave 0spd SD Munchlax would be amazing *.* (I actually just turned mine on this morning.)
 
Do journal entries detailing Pokemon received in a trade advance the frame, or is frame advancement restricted to entries describing captures?
 
mattj said:
Not doubting you for a moment. ;) Nobody knows of a way to get good IVs on one of these yet do they? A timid HP I 70 Surfing Raichu, or a Brave 0spd SD Munchlax would be amazing *.* (I actually just turned mine on this morning.)
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I'm after any none-stupid natured Munchlax. >.>;;

@Donut: Thanks for the list!
 
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