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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information
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This gives the basic idea. Couldn't find a link, but this is a good outline for everything you need to do.I don't know what you actually don't get but I thought maybe it's easier this way.
ID Finder how to abuse
Let us take this for example:
PID: 7942ef72 (TIMID, ability 0) 31/31/31/31/31/31 (Seed: d2140289 Frames - 1: 114, J (synch): 71, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 71, K (no synch): 87) HP DARK 70
Hexflawless Spread generated with Wichus PokeRNG.
I guess you know how to do that.
After that: RNG as usual
(Calibration, etc.)
A normal delay for HG can lie between 5000 und 5700. for me it's easy to hit 5730 (I don't know why.xD)
If you abused succesfully, you will have a Shiny Spread on the PID you used.
Of course you can also use the delay PokeRNG gives you. In the example case it would be: D2140289
Be careful about what you do. Don't change up what you do, and try completely new stuff each time. If Detuning it that way X times gives you F 54, then hit your seed again, and detune it maybe... 3 less times, catch him and see what you get. Don't just try different things. Try the same thing several times refining your number of detunes each time. If say 14 detunes gives you frame 54 (just making that up) then try 12 this next time and see how far off you are.
If you tune it 20 times and get too many frames, try decreasing the number of times you tune a station. And by calculating 53/20 you get the average number of frame advances per tuning. So decrease the number of times you tune based on your average.
So, I guess nobody knows if I can talk to Steven after I beat the E4, huh?
Thanks palkiaqua.
Edit: I too have a few occasions similar to Despotar, but for SS.
EDIT: When are the IV's being sent for Latios?
What people have claimed is that ever since platinum, roamers can be fainted and then respawned after beating the E4. In HG/SS, there's a slight variation: in plat, you have to talk to Oak to respawn the birds after beating E4, but in HG/SS the dogs automatically respawn. I think Lati@s respawns immediately after you faint it and then beat the E4, no need to retalk to Steven. Lati@s' icon should automatically reappear on the pokegear map card after you begin the game after beating E4. However, I would recommend not doing this until you're absolutely sure, like get confirmation from mingot/Omegadonut/Mattj or anyone else who's already done it to confirm it, but I don't see why Lati@s would be any different than the dogs.
If Lati@s is respawned after beating E4, like the dogs, then you'll have to do the tedious task of RNG abusing right before beating Lance. People have said IV/nature is set right when you beat lance. This is going to take several attempts if you're human (b/c the game saves afterwards and you have to go into the game world and catch the roamer to verify your seed).
So what you're saying is that radio advancements are always the same in the same seed if advanced the same way, but differ in how much is advanced from seed to different seed? Inconsistency is from seed to different seed, rather than random inconsistencies in a seed you're able to regularly hit?
Nah I really won't put it that way.
At least I never experienced it like that.
But think of it: When you set your DS to a paticular time to hit your seed, the stations do change because the time changes. Different stations send to different times. This is what I can confirm.
What I can say for sure: Same stations, always do advance at the same amount.
Also: Speed might be important so you won't run into any commercials on the radio which would unintentionally advance your frame.
Anyone know if the Spiky-Eared Pichu can be shiny? Anyone tried to RNG it?
i'm in front of regigigas
i have this adamant spread 31/31/31/17/31/31
on frame 882
so I have to do 439 journal flips (439x2=878)
and walk 128 steps with my registeel, regirock and regice (that will advance the frame to 881 + regigigas monster frame 1 = 882)
Am I correct? Or that's not possible since its an area with wild pokemon? if so can someone tell me what to do to advance the frame? Thanks.
i have this adamant spread 31/31/31/17/31/31
on frame 882
so I have to do 439 journal flips (439x2=878)
and walk 128 steps with my registeel, regirock and regice (that will advance the frame to 881 + regigigas monster frame 1 = 882)
Am I correct? Or that's not possible since its an area with wild pokemon? if so can someone tell me what to do to advance the frame? Thanks.
If it's an area with wild pokemon then save so that there's a space between you and Regigigas the do 440 flips and take a step forward then encounter.
If your breeding NPC movement.
Other then that possibly thinking you have a roamer? And you dont? XD
Dont think that would happen though lol
Thanks for the quick response :D And yes its an area with wild pokemon (Snowpoint temple)
so stations advance the rng based on what time it is?
If i move to a station then detune, can i go back to the same station and it will advance the rng because i have been using two different stations and would prefer not to.
I just caught a Timid Raikou with the following spread;
30/1/31/30/31/31
HP Grass, 68
I used the spread mentioned in this post.
Just to add to the thread, I had to detune 24 times to reach frame 26 (I know this because in the 10 or so times I reset, the spread/nature was always on frame 26). Want to thank everyone who helped as well.
30/1/31/30/31/31
HP Grass, 68
I used the spread mentioned in this post.
Just to add to the thread, I had to detune 24 times to reach frame 26 (I know this because in the 10 or so times I reset, the spread/nature was always on frame 26). Want to thank everyone who helped as well.
Eughh I still don't get this. I tried following this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncLVknVQyc8&feature=related
I turned the game on and collected my egg, walked around for 5 minutes and hatched my rattata. I then went into the grass, sweet scented and caught a roselia. I put the time and date and IVs and nature of the roselia into the seed finder. It found one seed I clicked ok and then on the main screen I clicked generate. I then checked the IVs of the rattata and none of them match the generated results, what am I doing wrong?
I turned the game on and collected my egg, walked around for 5 minutes and hatched my rattata. I then went into the grass, sweet scented and caught a roselia. I put the time and date and IVs and nature of the roselia into the seed finder. It found one seed I clicked ok and then on the main screen I clicked generate. I then checked the IVs of the rattata and none of them match the generated results, what am I doing wrong?
I haven't got a roamer, and I'm pretty sure theirs no NPCs moving!
Any other possible reasons?
Are you breeding or catching?
Im going to guess and say Catching since you said no NPC's can you tell us what and where?
No no I'm breeding, but I've saved and restarted so many times I'm sure it's not a NPC.
your supposed to catch a pokemon immediately after collecting the egg, from my experience waiting too long to catch a pokemon screws up your initial seed since frames are advancing while your walking around to hatch your rattata. So the game may have advanced too many frames to accurately determine the correct initial seed.