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I'm now really starting to think Reshiram will be Dragon/Fire and Zekrom will be Dragon/Electric. I know they don't initially look it, but I think their secondary typings are based on their tails. Reshiram's looks like a torch with a flame coming out of it, and Zekrom's looks like a jet engine. The rest of the body is based on a dragon, one which happens to have feathers and another who appears to be dark and metallic.
Not that I want them to have these typings. I'd rather reserve them for a Dragon + Electric/Fire/Ice non-uber legendary trio.

This would also sort of fit with a past/present kind of theme, with fire being more primal and electricity being a relatively recent technology.
 
despite the fact everything prove me wrong i still believe zekrom will be dark/dragon, not because of the colour, i just think he will be dark/dragon....its something inside me saying.
 
In my mind, I'm going to say that Zekrom is Dragon/Dark and Reshiram is Dragon/Normal.

Just my thoughts. I'm going with colors, haha. Hey, they're two new type combinations, why not?
 
If they are Fire/Dragon and Electric/Dragon the Rayquaza or Giratina of this generation could easily be Ice/Dragon or Water, but I doubt they'd give us a palkia 2.0 :/
 
JonTheRed said:
Your fears are well-founded, but from the one move we've seen happen (Raikou's Aura Sphere breaking Zoroark's Illusion), things looked fast enough. Then again, that gameplay footage was steeped in the insanity of Pokemon Sunday, so it's all kind of a blur to me.
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Can I have a link to that video please?
 
Tytus said:
I'm now really starting to think Reshiram will be Dragon/Fire and Zekrom will be Dragon/Electric. I know they don't initially look it, but I think their secondary typings are based on their tails. Reshiram's looks like a torch with a flame coming out of it, and Zekrom's looks like a jet engine. The rest of the body is based on a dragon, one which happens to have feathers and another who appears to be dark and metallic.
Not that I want them to have these typings. I'd rather reserve them for a Dragon + Electric/Fire/Ice non-uber legendary trio.

This would also sort of fit with a past/present kind of theme, with fire being more primal and electricity being a relatively recent technology.
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This is exactly what I thought.
 
One major, major flaw I see with the Electric/Dragon theory...is that if it really is Electric, why does it look 100% like a Gargoyle?. What has that to do with Technology or Electricity? The tail also looks more like a Drill than a turbine.

Same with the Fire/Dragon theory for Reshiram. If it is fire, why isn't there Red colours on its tail if it is a torch?
 
TsengHyena said:
One major, major flaw I see with the Electric/Dragon theory...is that if it really is Electric, why does it look 100% like a Gargoyle?. What has that to do with Technology or Electricity? The tail also looks more like a Drill than a turbine.

Same with the Fire/Dragon theory for Reshiram. If it is fire, why isn't there Red colours on its tail if it is a torch?
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Zekrom:

- Its tail is nothing like a drill because it has wings. It also has vents, which is where the air could possibly go through (or out) and cause spinning to generate electricity.

- It has blue lighting on the edges of its body and the tips of its head appendages glow blue. They also resemble lightning bolts.

- It has red eyes. Red + Blue is commonly used to represent magnets in Pokemon (iirc red + black are the correct colors that represent magnetic polars, which matches with his body).

Reshiram:

- Its tail looks like a torch and has a "flame" coming from it. The general flow of its body (its head crest, tail, etc) suggests something natural. Fire is natural lighting, while electricity is often generated by humans.

This post was just summing up what a lot of theories Pokebeach is discussing, and some of them are pretty solid.
 
But they have major plotholes. The supposed 'blue' colouring of Zekrom just looks like the positioning of the character and shinyness. at the blue regions. Reshiram even has less Fire-type suggestions. Theres nothing like a Lighting bolt on Zekrom, just some parts reflecting light in a way that looks like a line.

I don't know. It just doesnt add up.
 
TsengHyena said:
But they have major plotholes.
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Could you elaborate on that? If we had never heard of the Pokemon Sunday woman posting the thing about electric types and Zekrom on her blog, I'm sure this would all sound rather odd. However, the more I look at Zekrom the more I am convinced (and hoping) he is dragon/electric. His appearance also gives off the sense of a dark lightning cloud. Reshiram's appearance is like white fire, which is the hottest color in nature.
 
Not really, I mean, what about Palkia is noticeably water? And the first time you saw Groudon you probably thought he was fire right? :/

Appearance isn't everything.

And as for the gargoyle thing, what does that matter? Why does a flying ground type look like a scorpion? Who knows. :/

And really, the concept of a gargoyle is up for debate, I mean, remember that old cartoon show? Those gargoyles looked nothing like Zekrom.
 
Groundon was red, bulky and powerful looking, kinda fitting in with Ground types. Palkia has Perals, which come from the water.

I know appearance isn't everything, but I may as well say its Ice/Dragon really, as its got about as much evidence as other theories. We just don't know enough to say either way. Reshiram looks more like Normal/Dragon or Light/Dragon.

And really, the concept of a gargoyle is up for debate, I mean, remember that old cartoon show? Those gargoyles looked nothing like Zekrom.
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That was a cartoon. When a thing looks for-sure like a literal Gargoyle then that can't be coincidence (unless its based on a devil like a Gargoyle is).

And as for the gargoyle thing, what does that matter? Why does a flying ground type look like a scorpion? Who knows. :/
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Scorpions are ground dwellers. Giving it wings wont change that.
 
I thought Reshiram's hair looks quite Ghostly, in a whispy way. I first thought it was Ghost/Normal when I seen it. Zekroms really looks like a pair of horns.
 
TsengHyena said:
I thought Reshiram's hair looks quite Ghostly, in a whispy way. I first thought it was Ghost/Normal when I seen it. Zekroms really looks like a pair of horns.
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Most horns are like Houndoom's:

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Zekrom's horns are clearly not perfectly curved, but rather jagged. Look at them from the side, it looks like a lightning bolt striking down from a dark cloud.
 
Actually, for some demons, quite alot of images don't have perfectly curved horns. Devils are know to have those thunderbolt-like horns, gnarled-looking and worn. Though it does look Thunderbolt like.

I think what we really need to see what type they are, is them in a different pose. I feel the position and shading on the images are throwing things off and making it difficult.
 
TsengHyena said:
Actually, for some demons, quite alot of images don't have perfectly curved horns. Devils are know to have those thunderbolt-like horns, gnarled-looking and worn. Though it does look Thunderbolt like.

I think what we really need to see what type they are, is them in a different pose. I feel the position and shading on the images are throwing things off and making it difficult.
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I agree, I'm also not sure if the initial images of Mijumaru (the water otter) were official, but his shell was shaded white. Now it is off-white. Maybe Reshiram will have more shading/colors than the current image?
 
If we look to like the knees of Zekrom, it looks Blue but because of the pose and where light seems to be coming from, its impossible to tell if its the real colour at that bit or just the light's effect on the knee.

Whats the likelyhood that they have deliberately coloured areas wrong? not likely probably, but they might have done it to hide typings. Another thing, about the turbine-like tail. What if its a Dark Matter generator? I wouldn't be suprised if they gave a Dark-type and image to show this.

Really, all we can do is watch and wait. Obviously GF has taken Zoroark to heart and being major teases with the revealing process. We don't have enough to work with speculation.
 
Obsessed said:
I just realized that there wasn't a single Pokemon following the trainer in that footage. Did they remove the best feature of HGSS?!
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That was a HGSS gimmick. Don't expect it to be in BW. At best, it might make a return in the third version.

They also need to keep the customizable Safari Zone.
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No. That whole thing was stupid, and one of the worst cases of something you need a guide to do in any game. I swear the strategy guide writers probably gave Game Freak a backhander to include it.

The Pokewalker is also a HGSS gimmick, and a nod to some older devices. It won't work with BW and I'm sceptical on the chance of a Pokewalker 2.

Something I think would be neat - how about if there's some sort of town-building thing? At some point in the plot, you get a big patch of land, and you can then have stuff built on it. Different Pokemon can build different things - you'll need fighting types like the Machop line to do heavy lifting, grass types might sort out trees and lawns, water types to create rivers, electric types to. It'd be a way to actually make use of your non-party Pokemon, rather than them just festering in the PC. It would fit with the whole nature-vs-industry thing too - you could make a wildlife paradise with trees and meadows, or a skyscraper-filled polluted metropolis with Grimer in the sewers.

Sy123 said:
Bug?
And now I shall give more chance questions.

What is the chance, that Reshiram is part Electric? Low
What is the chance that this is the last generation? Near-zero
What is the chance, that the Water starter's evolution willl be an Empoleon brother? What do you mean?
What is the chance that we will get partner pokemon (walk beside you etc.) Near-zero
What is the chance, that the graphics were rushed, and is too much for the DS to take?Low to moderate. The chance that besides a few spots like the city the graphics are just like HGSS is, however, high.
What is the chance, that the majority of people will pick Black over White?High
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This more I look at them, the more I think that there is not gonna be a light type. I can see Reshiram tearing shit up trying to get to Zekrom, and vice versa. Reshiram just looks too much like a torch.

The only thing that could explain the turbine on Zekrom would be if it was an Electric type. Otherwise, Gamefreak would have added a huge piece of useless junk on one of their mascot Pokemon. The torch, the dragon like appearances, the turbine, it all seems logical. I doubt if all of it was just one big coincidence. And remember the nimbi that emit lightning are often dark in appearance. That would explain why Zekrom is black.
 
But near-pitch black? and a devilish appearance? What does that do with Electric, anyway?

I could see it as Dark/Electric. Maybe they're wrong about it being Dragon type? In fact. It looks nothing like a dragon now that I think about it.
 
Really for all we know reshiram could be bug/ground and zekrom could be psychic/water.(yeah over exaggerating)

I'm actually hoping Zekrom is Dark/Electric or Dark/Dragon. I'm still not convinced that it's part electric or part dragon.
 
TsengHyena said:
But near-pitch black? and a devilish appearance? What does that do with Electric, anyway?

I could see it as Dark/Electric. Maybe they're wrong about it being Dragon type? In fact. It looks nothing like a dragon now that I think about it.
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Look at the neck-up. That doesn't look like a Dragon to you? It kinda reminds me of most Dragons I see. The neck-up portion looks like a male futuristic version of Saphira. [Eragon's Dragon]
 
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