Actually, based on my own hypothesis, I think Complete Burn = Dark Void. It will be more accurate in standard battles than Will-o-Wisp, but in doubles it will burn both opponents. That could definitely be useful, considering all the Exploders and such (especially in triples :O).
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Hey guys, I might be a bit random compared to the current discussion, and it might have alrdy been discussed before but... what do you think about the encourage ability?(or w/e will it be called) The ability that negates 2nd effects but boosts power of moves.
I believe that it will all depend on the movesets they get, as it can be very crippling, or very OP... i.e. :
dynamic punch, sacred fire, zap canon, all moves like thunder fire blast with status inducing secondary effects and flinching move won't be as good with this ability
but it could be OP with those moves! Imagine if instead of lowering sp atk 2 stages draco meteor, overheat and psycho boost would get a boost in dmg instead? In the same idead, close combat and superpower wouldnt lower your stats either.
some other moves that could get decent benefit from it could be (if the side effects are considered secondary effects by the means of the ability description are : take down, double edge (recoil moves) outrage, petal dance, trash (self status inducing moves) hyper beam/giga impact (recharge move?) hi/jump kick w/o getting damaged by missing?
Anyways, I'm really eager to see new content about this ability, wether the boost will be of help, what moves it will affect (mostly will it make u-turn a lesser x scissor or it will still be viable for scouting w/ that ability?) and the pokemons+movesets that will benefit from it ^^
I believe that it will all depend on the movesets they get, as it can be very crippling, or very OP... i.e. :
dynamic punch, sacred fire, zap canon, all moves like thunder fire blast with status inducing secondary effects and flinching move won't be as good with this ability
but it could be OP with those moves! Imagine if instead of lowering sp atk 2 stages draco meteor, overheat and psycho boost would get a boost in dmg instead? In the same idead, close combat and superpower wouldnt lower your stats either.
some other moves that could get decent benefit from it could be (if the side effects are considered secondary effects by the means of the ability description are : take down, double edge (recoil moves) outrage, petal dance, trash (self status inducing moves) hyper beam/giga impact (recharge move?) hi/jump kick w/o getting damaged by missing?
Anyways, I'm really eager to see new content about this ability, wether the boost will be of help, what moves it will affect (mostly will it make u-turn a lesser x scissor or it will still be viable for scouting w/ that ability?) and the pokemons+movesets that will benefit from it ^^
To think of it, that kinda makes sense, but I want the move have power and burn effect >:D
EDIT: So people don't get me wrong, I didn't mean a fire dark void with a base power, I just meant something like Sacred Fire :P
Or even Ninetales more often :naughty:
I don't know why people think Complete Burn will be like Will-o-wisp, Blast Burn is one of the few Fire attacks that doesn't burn at all. I hope it has 100-120 power 85-100 accuracy, and a cool secondary effect. Judging from the name, Victory Star may reward a KO, like Overconfidance/EarthquakeSpiral. Do we think GF might introduce more abilities like this?
^to chateau above: maybe yes, but probably not, i mean if is for absorbing burn from flash fire, heatran is a better overall pokemon and even though it is not immune to the victiny's second stab it still resist it...
and personally between heatran and houndoom i would use the first.
and personally between heatran and houndoom i would use the first.
The way I thought of it, it might be an attack that has power and burn secondary effect, though it could be just a strong fire attack.
If Victory Star boosts a stat(s) upon KOing that'd be nice (though don't make it randomly boosts one the stats...)
Or maybe it boosts the power of the next few moves Victini uses?
Has anyone noticed that every odd Gen we get all new Pokemon,or atleast ont alot of evos,but the evens we get a bunch evolutions and prevos.
That sounds like it would critically break every physical attacker in the game that isn't already a Fire Type or immune by other means. Which if that's the case, would mean a rise in special attackers, which means a rise of a certain pink blob that we already see far too much from.
I would severely hope that Victini's move would not be anything like that.
Same here
True, but Gamefreak doesn't care about the metagame. And if it was true that MIGHT be enough to send Victini to ubers. Since the only thing that could break it would be a resistant, very fast, special attacker that doesn't care about its item or losing 15% a turn. Starmie I guess. Even Blissey would hate it because it would mean losing Leftovers and a healthy chunk of HP just to stay in for a couple turns.
Even Starmie can't switch in safely to that, I doubt it would be able to take out Victini in one hit with Surf (guessing it's a bulky Victini of course).. Hydro Pump, maybe, but Starmie doesn't have the best Sp. Atk, and 100 BST in both HP and Sp. Def is nothing to laugh at. What I'm saying is that Starmie isn't the best switch in for the move, but if it's a shift after you lose one of your pokemon, then it works
Well, good, because then Victini will probably be banned in OU, along with being banned in the VGC.
Mabye it will be a fire move that hits all opponents instead of one,like Heat Wave but better.
Now you turn around and look at Dark Void
Maybe if he turns out to have a mainly physical movepool Slowbro could do the job.
My Houndoom laughs at all Heatran thanks to combination of Flash Fire, HP Ground and Sucker Punch. HA HA HA HA.
If Victini becomes a top tier Pokemon, then I'm pretty sure my Houndoom will remain on my team next gen. He probably would've anyways since I love that little hell hound to death. The only reason I'd replace him is if he evolves, which would be pretty awesome.
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