Are you talking about Ononokusu? We don't know its typing yet, and that attack in the demo intro was Dragon Pulse.
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Are you talking about Ononokusu? We don't know its typing yet, and that attack in the demo intro was Dragon Pulse.
Pretty sure Kibago uses Dragon Dance in the video:
http://pokebeach.com/#new-black-and-white-battle-footage
Nope, it's Kibago using Dragon Dance.
Also in that same vid you see the new bug using it's Bug Resistance dropping the croc's and grass starter's sp.atk(?). The croc's sp.atk drops first, so would this imply it's the faster one?
EDIT: Ninja'd.
I just saw that Pokebeach video. Drill Liner undoubtebly has to be rock or ground type (most likely ground). And juding by how much damage Gigaiasu took from Tsutaja, an unevolved pokemon, the following conclusions can be drawn:
-Tsutaja will be a good special attacker (yes!)
-Gigaiasu has poor special defense (this is plausible; many rock-types have huge defense, but typically lack SpD)
-That particular Gigaiasu could've had poor SpD IVs, Tsutaja could've had good SpA IVs, or a combination of both
However, with Sturdy working as an auto-sash now, and a couple of good pokemon already having the ability (like Skarmory), does this mean that entry hazards will be more widespread next gen than this one? Is that even possible? >.>
-Tsutaja will be a good special attacker (yes!)
-Gigaiasu has poor special defense (this is plausible; many rock-types have huge defense, but typically lack SpD)
-That particular Gigaiasu could've had poor SpD IVs, Tsutaja could've had good SpA IVs, or a combination of both
However, with Sturdy working as an auto-sash now, and a couple of good pokemon already having the ability (like Skarmory), does this mean that entry hazards will be more widespread next gen than this one? Is that even possible? >.>
Oh, I see it now. So, as of now, we know it's a Mold Breaker with Dragon Dance. Heh, starts to look better than Flygon.
And we cannot be sure of it yet. For all we know, Meguroko got its Sp. Attack reduced first because it was the first pokémon.
So, what's the huge bonus of a pure-Dragon having Mold Breaker, anyway? Okay, it's hitting Bronzong with (Non-STAB!) Earthquake, but it'd still have to run a Fire move to hit Skamory and, to an extent, Forretress and Scizor.
So, what uses does Mold Breaker have? This is, of course, discounting new Pokémon and abilities. Because if they come up with a "Dragon Absorb" kind of ability, then this is huge.
So, what uses does Mold Breaker have? This is, of course, discounting new Pokémon and abilities. Because if they come up with a "Dragon Absorb" kind of ability, then this is huge.
I'm not too sure, either. Defensively speaking, it resists Electric, Fire, Grass, and Water. Meanwhile, its fellow Dragon Salamence resists Bug, Fighting, Fire, Grass, and Water, with an immunity to Ground. However a pure Dragon is only weak to Dragon and Ice, both 2x weaknesses, while Salamence is weak to Dragon, Ice (4x), and Rock. I think we can see from Heatran that resistances are more important than weaknesses, though.
Offensively, well it has less STAB options than Garchomp, Flygon, or Kingdra, while not adding any useful resistances like Salamence. I'd say it'll probably be inferior to our other pseudo-Dragons, unless it gets a ridiculous stat spread which focuses on hitting hard and fast.
yes but we wont know if it gets a added type upon evolution. so... cross your fingers?
Yeah, I just hope the rest of the rumors are true, cause they're pretty awesome besides the pure Dragon Ononokusu.
Assuming it is a 600BST Pokemon, I'm thinking they'll give it dual typing simply to make it 4x weak to something. A 600BST Pokemon that is weak to only two types and access to Dragon Dance is certainly a powerful Pokemon.
Of course, the only dual types it could have to give a 4x weakness is: Dragon/Ground; Dragon/Flying; Dragon/Grass (*shudder*). If it was to be Dragon/Ground in the end, that would make Mold Breaker extremely powerful with STAB earthquake ruining Rotoms, etc.
I could see that, too. Metagross is slow and bulky, so maybe Ononokusu would be the same (it does look like that kind of Pokemon). I'm actually hoping he's a mix of Garchomp and Metagross. 110 / 130 / 95 / 85 / 100 / 80 would be neat.
they made scizor OU without giving him an evolution, I'm sure they could do the same with sandslash if they really wanted to
Sandslash is a Pokemon that looks fully evolved,I cant see it having a evolution,and there are other Pokemon that are more deserving of a evolution.
Sand Throw+Sand Power and giving him a good STAB priority move might do the trick.
Sand Power, assuming a 1.5 boost will give him 492 Max Attack. Throw a Choice Scarf on him and you've got a powerful sweeper.
Sand Throw, assuming it works like Swift Swim, would give him a base speed of 502. From this he could run off a Sword Dance or a Choice Band set.
Or, if they don't do this, when they should, then giving him Sturdy would allow him to run as an ample lead thanks to Rapin Spin and Stealth Rocks, but he really deserves Sand Power and Sand Throw.
Scizor has decent typing and attack. What he lacked was good physical STAB, and speed.
Bullet Punch and Technician allowed him to act as an amazing revenge killer/late game sweeper. U-turn and X-Scissor gave him even more utility and power.
Sandslash doesn't really have much going for him compared to other ground types. They could improve his movepool, but he still has pretty lackluster stats and pretty bad typing. They'd need to do something drastic for him to be used over other ground type Pokemon. That would almost require an evolution.
There are dozens of Pokemon that look fully evolved and still have an evolution. Magneton, Magmar, Electabuzz, Chansey, Scyther, Golbat, Likitung, etc....
I can see all of these having a evolution,but they have giant steel mole already so I think that they have filled their digging mammal quota
Mold Breaker is already a great ability, it is just that the distribution is currently very poor, only available for two mediocre Pokemon. Add to the fact that abilities become more numerous / better with each passing generation, and a 'good' 5th Gen Pokemon with Mold Breaker sounds very appealing indeed. For this guy, the ability to OHKO a full-health Forretress with Fire Blast / boosted Fire Fang, for example, could prove to be very handy. And that's just one of many possible scenarios.
There is a single viable Ground-type Scarfer in OU; Flygon. U-turn, Outrage, and immunity to Ground are arguably more useful than STAB Earthquake (though that just adds to its usability). I don't see why Sandslash would overtake him.
I just gave you a reason, 492 attack. That's assuming Sand Throw won't be like Swift Swim for Attack, which would make it 656 attack. Sandslash would be able to OHKO Pokemon that Flygon couldn't.
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