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The Everything NFL Thread - 2010 Season
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Probably didn't want any Niners extracting revenge for that last second TD pass he threw last year to beat us :P
...that or they just wanted to limit his time initially as he literally arrived only a few days ago, and claims that ankle isn't fully healed.
Anyways, more on the Niners...Smith looked a bit more solid, but I still think/hope Nate Davis will emerge as the QB of the future eventually; granted, most of his playing time has been limited to facing 2nd and 3rd stringers in preseason games since he was drafted just last year, but he has a great arm and looks like some good instincts as well. Not to mention saving at least 3 games last preseason (by winning them) and performing solid this year as well. If Smith ends up bombing, I hope Singletary really gives him some consideration for the starting job (we all know Carr is another Smith-like joke).
You better hope Nate Davis is NOT your QB of the future. He looked lost at times during that game (and every other game he's ever participated since being drafted)
I can see it - the Vikings are honestly the "All-Overrated" team (I'd take MJD, Johnson, Rice, Gore, Williams, without hesitation" over Peterson. I'd consider Jackson, and Turner as well), Favre can't keep it up forever, and Sidney Rice is missing 8 games minimum. The Lions I think are still not there yet - they're one good offseason away from being the best team in the division.
Yeah, what would your power rankings for the conferences be?
I have no patience to rank all eight, but my pick for weakest is the NFC West. I think the Niners will win the division, the Cards will slide out of contention and fall back to the 8-8/7-9 level of the Seahawks. And lol Rams.
AFC West got a lot better this year, I think people will be surprised. I'd peg the Raiders to easily break their streak of 11+ loss seasons, and the Chiefs might win 5 or 6 also. Denver seems to still be a tough out, and then the Chargers top the heap.
AFC West got a lot better this year, I think people will be surprised. I'd peg the Raiders to easily break their streak of 11+ loss seasons, and the Chiefs might win 5 or 6 also. Denver seems to still be a tough out, and then the Chargers top the heap.
Raiders are definitely going to break even at the least this season I think, they finally have a good QB with Campbell. Odds are they still won't escape 3rd though, unless the Broncos manage a big slipup...which actually isn't too far fetched in reality, Raiders could end up 2nd in AFC West, but a playoff spot is still a longshot. Chargers again to likely win AFC West.
Off the top of my head
NFC East - Top to Bottom the deepest, most competitive division
AFC East - If not for the Bills, this would be the best division
AFC South - 3 very dangerous teams, Indy and Tennessee being the best
AFC North - Could vault or drop down this list depending on what the Browns and Bengals do.
NFC South - Super Bowl Champs and most underrated division. However the Bucs and Panthers could easily have miserable seasons this year. If they perform well however, this division will be in the top 2
NFC North - Bears and Vikings are setting up to have huge let downs this season. The Lions will improve but they don't have the O-Line or the secondary to be over .500
AFC West - Chargers still the class however the Raiders might not be the joke. The Chiefs however will be and the Broncos might join them.
NFC West - Niners could possibly win the division with 8 wins. Matt Leinart will be the death of the Cards and Anderson won't do much better. Seahawks could be the 2010 Broncos. Or not. The Rams aren't exactly the trendiest Super Bowl pick.
NFC East - Top to Bottom the deepest, most competitive division
AFC East - If not for the Bills, this would be the best division
AFC South - 3 very dangerous teams, Indy and Tennessee being the best
AFC North - Could vault or drop down this list depending on what the Browns and Bengals do.
NFC South - Super Bowl Champs and most underrated division. However the Bucs and Panthers could easily have miserable seasons this year. If they perform well however, this division will be in the top 2
NFC North - Bears and Vikings are setting up to have huge let downs this season. The Lions will improve but they don't have the O-Line or the secondary to be over .500
AFC West - Chargers still the class however the Raiders might not be the joke. The Chiefs however will be and the Broncos might join them.
NFC West - Niners could possibly win the division with 8 wins. Matt Leinart will be the death of the Cards and Anderson won't do much better. Seahawks could be the 2010 Broncos. Or not. The Rams aren't exactly the trendiest Super Bowl pick.
I'm actually not so sure about the Chargers this year. If Jackson holds out for as long as I think he will, that takes away one of Rivers' biggest targets. With Jackson gone, defenses can focus on Gates and shut him down, not having to be too terribly afraid of Malcom Floyd. In my opinion, the fate of the Chargers depends a lot on the performance and development of Ryan Mathews. Expectations are high for this talented rookie, but will he meet them? He could become another AP, yes. He could also become a Matt Forte (lol). If Mathews performs to expectations, the Chargers will still win the division I think. If not, I think they will not only not win the division, but not make the playoffs either.
Lol @ anyone who thinks Campbell will help the Raiders break .500. 6-10 at the BEST for Al Davis' bunch.
I think the sleeper of this division will be, actually, the Chefs. Jamaal Charles has broken out, which should take some pressure off Cassel and the passing game. Couple that with the addition of Thomas Jones and you have quite a nice set of backs to build a formidable running game on. If this running attack can thrive, Kansas City will improve to quite possibly 8-8, which may just be enough to take second place in this division.
Broncos...I dunno with them. losing Dumervil hurts alot, but I think they'll still be ok on Defense. On offense...I'm going to be bold and predict that Tebow does surprisingly well, better than almost everyone is expecting. I think he'll become the starter before the season is over as everyone finally gets tired of Orton's painful mediocrity.
That's my take on the AFC West. Next time: AFC East!
Lol @ anyone who thinks Campbell will help the Raiders break .500. 6-10 at the BEST for Al Davis' bunch.
I think the sleeper of this division will be, actually, the Chefs. Jamaal Charles has broken out, which should take some pressure off Cassel and the passing game. Couple that with the addition of Thomas Jones and you have quite a nice set of backs to build a formidable running game on. If this running attack can thrive, Kansas City will improve to quite possibly 8-8, which may just be enough to take second place in this division.
Broncos...I dunno with them. losing Dumervil hurts alot, but I think they'll still be ok on Defense. On offense...I'm going to be bold and predict that Tebow does surprisingly well, better than almost everyone is expecting. I think he'll become the starter before the season is over as everyone finally gets tired of Orton's painful mediocrity.
That's my take on the AFC West. Next time: AFC East!
How can you say the Chiefs are better than the Raiders?
Shitty Coach + Shitty QB + Shitty O-Line + Shitty Defense =/= 8-8
The Raiders have the making of a TOP 10 Defense. They're defensive line is anchored by Richard Seymour and John Henderson. The have playmakers at Linebacker. The second best corner in the league and two good safeties.
Mark my words Micheal Bush will OUT PERFORM Jamal Charles. Not that I don't like Charles, I just think Todd Haley is a failure of a head coach who doesn't play his best players (Hi I will bench my team's best Linebacker this decade who had two defensive TDs during the season because I can).
Also, Al isn't calling the shots anymore. Raiders - Al - Jamarcus >>>>>> Chiefs
Also have you SEEN Malcom Floyd this preseason? I know it's only "preseason" but that still doesn't discount how Phillip Rivers, Floyd and Matthews have been tearing it up.
Shitty Coach + Shitty QB + Shitty O-Line + Shitty Defense =/= 8-8
The Raiders have the making of a TOP 10 Defense. They're defensive line is anchored by Richard Seymour and John Henderson. The have playmakers at Linebacker. The second best corner in the league and two good safeties.
Mark my words Micheal Bush will OUT PERFORM Jamal Charles. Not that I don't like Charles, I just think Todd Haley is a failure of a head coach who doesn't play his best players (Hi I will bench my team's best Linebacker this decade who had two defensive TDs during the season because I can).
Also, Al isn't calling the shots anymore. Raiders - Al - Jamarcus >>>>>> Chiefs
Also have you SEEN Malcom Floyd this preseason? I know it's only "preseason" but that still doesn't discount how Phillip Rivers, Floyd and Matthews have been tearing it up.
Well wait...isn't the division winner guaranteed a playoff spot? Least that's how I thought it was set up...
I do agree a good bit of the Chargers' success will depend on how Mathews emerges; if he becomes a potent threat, the running game then opens up Rivers to pick them apart with the passing, Jackson or no Jackson. If not, then the continued holdout of their left tackle (whatever his name was) will hurt them a lot more if Rivers has to pass more and they can't somehow shore up that spot.
And lol Chiefs, even the Raiders will do better than them. As for the Broncos, I like Tebow as much as the next casual fan, but he's not replacing Orton for at least this season, barring some dramatic change of pace. Orton is looking sharp enough so far in the preseason, but if he doesn't make any strides past mediocrity in the regular season, then I do see Tebow replacing him (as he will eventually regardless)...just not this season.
Lol Hero I just like to make unusual predictions. I agree, most evidence points toward the Chiefs' continued sucking, I just figured I'd rock the boat a bit.
I didn't say Malcom Floyd wasn't talented, I'm just saying he's not Jackson. I left that one open though because it could go either way. I'm not a particular fan of Norv Turner though...
The Raiders have tons of talent on their team but they still never seem to pull it together, year after year. Why is this? Adding Campbell over Russell isn't a huge improvement. Personally I would have kept going with Gradkowski, because he did alright during that stretch he played last season. As for the defense it's good, but unless they start putting up points they are going to continue losing. Michael Bush, Justin Fargas, AND Darren McFadden are all viable RBs, but they can't do anything if their pitiful O-Line can't open holes for them. Once the Raiders improve their line, you'll see improvement in their whole team. Mark MY words.
And I still think Tebow will start by the end of this season :). We shall see though, I can't WAIT for real football!
I didn't say Malcom Floyd wasn't talented, I'm just saying he's not Jackson. I left that one open though because it could go either way. I'm not a particular fan of Norv Turner though...
The Raiders have tons of talent on their team but they still never seem to pull it together, year after year. Why is this? Adding Campbell over Russell isn't a huge improvement. Personally I would have kept going with Gradkowski, because he did alright during that stretch he played last season. As for the defense it's good, but unless they start putting up points they are going to continue losing. Michael Bush, Justin Fargas, AND Darren McFadden are all viable RBs, but they can't do anything if their pitiful O-Line can't open holes for them. Once the Raiders improve their line, you'll see improvement in their whole team. Mark MY words.
And I still think Tebow will start by the end of this season :). We shall see though, I can't WAIT for real football!
Sorry Bro, but I just had to stop there.
Well, I suppose in a relative sense it is a huge improvement, but I was more referring to the scale of what they really need. Yes Campbell is far better than Russell, but he's still a poor quarterback and will not lead the Raiders to the playoffs. I hope that clarifies what I meant.
Guys, every year at least 2-3 "bad" teams from the year before end up in the playoffs. There is no way to know the Raiders will not make the playoffs. Their defense was intense last year, so if they can pull off even a 16th best offense (which Campbell could give them), then the playoffs are realistic! Their offensive line is still going to be porous, but so were the Redskins, and he flourished just fine as a mediocre short passer there!
I would say Cowboys/Vikings/Falcons/Panthers/Saints/49ers (Giants are more likely than three AFC South, but dare to dream right?) & Dolphins/Patriots/Ravens/Colts/Texans/Chargers make it...a lot harder to predict there, Titans/Steelers/Jets all have great shots. That satisfies the 5-6 new playoff team rule, although I did not take any true sleepers, so obviously I am not being daring enough to be really accurate. SOME team that was miserable last year will make it this year...Bills, Browns, and Rams are probably the only teams I would truly write off (sorry DM...)
I would say Cowboys/Vikings/Falcons/Panthers/Saints/49ers (Giants are more likely than three AFC South, but dare to dream right?) & Dolphins/Patriots/Ravens/Colts/Texans/Chargers make it...a lot harder to predict there, Titans/Steelers/Jets all have great shots. That satisfies the 5-6 new playoff team rule, although I did not take any true sleepers, so obviously I am not being daring enough to be really accurate. SOME team that was miserable last year will make it this year...Bills, Browns, and Rams are probably the only teams I would truly write off (sorry DM...)
Fuck McFadden he hasn't put on pads this entire offseason. Oh and he sucks.
Micheal Bush all the way baybeee. Heyward Bey is still like 4th on the depth chart bro. It's all about Luis Murphy, Chaz Schilens, and Zach Miller.
Also remember, last year the Raiders had one of the worst O-Lines in the league. The Redskins had one of the worst O-Lines OF ALL TIME.
CaptKirby, you have the Dolphins making the playoffs. That's daring.
Micheal Bush all the way baybeee. Heyward Bey is still like 4th on the depth chart bro. It's all about Luis Murphy, Chaz Schilens, and Zach Miller.
Also remember, last year the Raiders had one of the worst O-Lines in the league. The Redskins had one of the worst O-Lines OF ALL TIME.
CaptKirby, you have the Dolphins making the playoffs. That's daring.
The Dolphins get Bronnie Rown back, plus they got rid of Ted "Hands" Ginn Jr and picked up Brandon Marshall. I think their playoff shot is more likely than, say, the Jets (gasp!). I also like the Texans to finally make the playoffs this year. With the Clots declining (a little) and the Titans not consistent, there is an outside possibility of them even winning the division. If they can maintain the performance they were putting on toward the end of last season I think they have a real shot. I'm a bit partial though, I just feel for the Texans :(.
I'll peg CK's predictions as right on the money, including the bolder ones. I like where your head's at!
I'll peg CK's predictions as right on the money, including the bolder ones. I like where your head's at!
The Dolphins get Ronnie Brown for 6 games and Ricky is 33.
Chad Henne hasn't proven anything. The Jets have a better everything except QB and neither of them has done anything.
Chad Henne hasn't proven anything. The Jets have a better everything except QB and neither of them has done anything.
Ricky is one of the greatest running backs of all the time (not an exaggeration, even with all the shit hitting the fan / not playing he is going to finish with near 10,000 yards if he can get near 1,000 this year, over 10,000 if he can hit 1200) and basically the same as if he were a little younger since he took the time off.
Really my predictions are all still based on last season/logic, so I do not think they can be too accurate...trying to make "logical" predictions for the NFL is a bad idea since only 16 games are played!
Texans over Titans was based on the inconsistency and the fact that Matt Schaub just came off of a 4500 yard year - this is absolutely a quarterback driven league; yes, defense and running games can still do well (Panthers surging end of last season, but even then that only started with a decent > terrible quarterback), but basically 8-10/12 teams are going to make the playoffs because of a quarterback. Of course, this casts my Dolphins pick into the most doubt lol (and 49ers, but someone has to come out of the AFC West, right?)
Really my predictions are all still based on last season/logic, so I do not think they can be too accurate...trying to make "logical" predictions for the NFL is a bad idea since only 16 games are played!
Texans over Titans was based on the inconsistency and the fact that Matt Schaub just came off of a 4500 yard year - this is absolutely a quarterback driven league; yes, defense and running games can still do well (Panthers surging end of last season, but even then that only started with a decent > terrible quarterback), but basically 8-10/12 teams are going to make the playoffs because of a quarterback. Of course, this casts my Dolphins pick into the most doubt lol (and 49ers, but someone has to come out of the AFC West, right?)
*sigh* It's okay, you're not the first and you won't be the last.
Niners = NFC last I checked :P
Also, the Jets would like to have a word with you about the whole QB thing and Defense...though Sanchez is looking pretty decent for a sophomore year, though he'll probably slump like most of the others.
The Jets had a miracle run and would have been 8-8 if not for Caldwell being a pussy. And Sanchez was VERY good in the playoffs. And they had the BEST defense and running game!
That said, we made them look ordinary on both sides of the ball yesterday - we were moving the ball on them with REX GROSSMAN; we gave up a few big plays but our 2nd team held them in check, meanwhile we forced a pick and 4 fumbles.
That said, we made them look ordinary on both sides of the ball yesterday - we were moving the ball on them with REX GROSSMAN; we gave up a few big plays but our 2nd team held them in check, meanwhile we forced a pick and 4 fumbles.
To give Rex Grossman a shred of credit, he did help the Bears get to the Super Bowl that one time...but yeah...
Also, Jets had quite a bit of help from the Bengals last year as well...granted, I think they could have taken them had they played all their starters in that final season game anyways, but still, it was a nice gift for them to rest them all.
Also, Jets had quite a bit of help from the Bengals last year as well...granted, I think they could have taken them had they played all their starters in that final season game anyways, but still, it was a nice gift for them to rest them all.