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They aren't alternate forms, they're counterparts. Kinda like Plusle and Minun, except they're all different types and get evolutions (still not confirmed)
 
It's so hard to keep track of what is true now. Was the green monkey and his evo (Yannapu, I believe?) confirmed, or just rumoured? I don't care what Serebii has to say about, I want to know if it's been proven at all.

Yanappu has been confirmed, and we have its typing and ability. The Water monkey's backsprite has been partially seen while the Fire monkey couldn't be seen, however we know both of its names. Melkor said all three of them evolve, and went on about how the evos and the two not yet seen monkeys look like.
 
Yanappu has been confirmed, and we have its typing and ability. The Fire monkey's backsprite has been partially seen while the Water monkey couldn't be seen, however we know both of its names. Melkor said all three of them evolve, and went on about how the evos and the two not yet seen monkeys look like.
Other way around water could be seen but fire couldnt. Not trying to be a pest hmm.

*Edit* Ninjad.
 
I knew the green monkey was confirmed, I wasn't sure if his evolved form or the other monkeys were. I thought the evolved formed was named Yanappu, sorry for the confusion.
 
Predictions:
Dark/Dragon Evo Family: The new Garchomp.
Steel Fighting: Tank
Rock Fighting: Tank
Grass Fighting: Wimp
Flying: Pegasis like thing that is bannished to an Uber Wall
Electric Flying: Zap Zap Zapdos Wannabe
Ground Flying: Speedy Killa.
Dragon Ice: It'll be kinda crappy Uber.
Water Fighting: Giant Swamp Monster that exells in everything but speed
Normal Psychic: Deadly Legendary Mewtwo dude
Bug Steel: ....meh, can't think. I only think of Scizor
 
Since a lot of pokés will have other forms, Rotom should have a new form that allows it to learn Aura Sphere or at least that darn Focus Blast. Maybe a treadmill...
 
Rotom has enough formes already -.-

I would like to see Pokemon like Jynx and Pinsir to get an evolution. Or Lapras getting a pre-evo
 
Yeah, IVs really are only a "flavor" thing to make every Pokemon unique from others of the same Level/Nature/Species, but in competitive battles, it's a major inconvenience.

Perfectly said. IVs are flavor and fall in the theme of each pokemon being individual. This is why they will never go away to think otherwise is foolish.

The competative scene merely wishes to pump all its pokemon with steriods because that is the 'best case scenario'. The problem in my mind with this is that it comes at the cost of abusing the game and defying the very intent of the creators. Imagine if you couldn't hack perfect pokemon. Imagine how the metagame would change... not much beyond HP sets, and really is it a 'Hidden Power' when every Vaporeon is running it?

Sure, I'm all for them making breeding perfect IVs. HG and SS was a good step, but perfect 'should' take hard work and effort not 'Legitamate Hacking.' I don't oppose RNG because it is at least within the game's code and is a bitch to pull off, but resorting to PokeSav or AR's is cheap and only creates an arms race of who can hack the best.

You want perfect IVs and maxed PPs without any effort? Go play shoddy.

While we are at purging IVs lets also only use beneficial natures and make all pokemon shiny. Oh wait we do that in shoddy.
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Just to continue beating a dead horse;

It's frustrating, because to remain competitive you almost certainly need near-perfect IV's to play against the hacking players, but I can completely understand why they're there and so hard to get good IVs.

Fixed for accuracy. If we didn't have ARs or pokesav or RNG competative battling would be less demanding.

Sure, it's realistic, but why should a game where ten 10 year olds go across the world catching giant monsters and using them to save the world be realistic? Fun should be the only concern.

Oh because IVs are the only thing keeping pokemon from being 'fun'. >_> Because 'winning' every battle is all that matters. <_< Because a 10 year old really cares about a metagame that is contrived under 'perfectly impossible' circumstances.

/rant

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Right now the thing that worries me the most is the interview with Sugimori, talking about how the water pokemon looks totally different and like a Sealion. It bothers me alot to knock me down to 60% certain PxP is trolling.

But then I see the shitty excuses Hiro calls fan art of pokemon and can't believe them.

I'll laugh so hard if Sugimori is trolling us about Miju3 being a Sealion :A.

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Did we forget about Chillarmy being numbered at 78 in Isshu dex?

Assuming that their isn't some fucked up International Dex he'd be at 571-572(?)

But Melkor said Zoroark is #571...

It all depends where Victini falls. There is reason to suspect Victini is not actually #000 in the Isshu dex.

Firstly, if you obtained any non-region pokemon in Sinnoh before you get the national dex the pokemon is numbered as #000. Secondly, they could have done it to prevent people from guessing how many new pokemon there are. This ties into the desire of the creators to make the game a complete surprise.

*Cross fingers*

(Also did anyone else think that Victiny also has another meaning beyond victory? The roman numeral V comes to mind :P)
 
The water & fire monkies are assumed confirmed, they were shown off on the back of some packaging.

Well.
"Shown off". We could only see the back of the water monkey, and the names of them.

as usual with supposed coro coro scans they could be fake.. but imo these look the real deal and with the week left before b&w is out and coro usually leaks around this time of the month i think this is it....

behold

http://beebee2see.appspot.com.nyud.net/d/agpiZWViZWUyc2VlchULEgxJbWFnZUFuZFRleHQYnKriAQw.jpg

http://beebee2see.appspot.com.nyud.net/d/agpiZWViZWUyc2VlchULEgxJbWFnZUFuZFRleHQY5-DiAQw.jpg

>_>
 
as usual with supposed coro coro scans they could be fake.. but imo these look the real deal and with the week left before b&w is out and coro usually leaks around this time of the month i think this is it....

behold

http://beebee2see.appspot.com.nyud.net/d/agpiZWViZWUyc2VlchULEgxJbWFnZUFuZFRleHQYnKriAQw.jpg

http://beebee2see.appspot.com.nyud.net/d/agpiZWViZWUyc2VlchULEgxJbWFnZUFuZFRleHQY5-DiAQw.jpg

>_>

Looks like the real deal. Miji2 looks awesome. The other two don't look half bad either.
 
with the offical art and color Im starting to like them more...well i never had a problem with water&grass but the fire is still ugly IMO....but just a bit more bearable
 
as usual with supposed coro coro scans they could be fake.. but imo these look the real deal and with the week left before b&w is out and coro usually leaks around this time of the month i think this is it....

behold

http://beebee2see.appspot.com.nyud.net/d/agpiZWViZWUyc2VlchULEgxJbWFnZUFuZFRleHQYnKriAQw.jpg

http://beebee2see.appspot.com.nyud.net/d/agpiZWViZWUyc2VlchULEgxJbWFnZUFuZFRleHQY5-DiAQw.jpg

>_>
This indeed does look like the actual corocoro scan. Going to try and see if I can pick any new info off of these 2 pages.

EDIT: all 3 monkeys have the same ability.
 
as usual with supposed coro coro scans they could be fake.. but imo these look the real deal and with the week left before b&w is out and coro usually leaks around this time of the month i think this is it....

behold

http://beebee2see.appspot.com.nyud.net/d/agpiZWViZWUyc2VlchULEgxJbWFnZUFuZFRleHQYnKriAQw.jpg

http://beebee2see.appspot.com.nyud.net/d/agpiZWViZWUyc2VlchULEgxJbWFnZUFuZFRleHQY5-DiAQw.jpg

>_>

I'm starting to like the evos more too, but as I've said before, its really just the typing that bothers me.

also, is it me, or does the fire monkey's tail look like a spade, water monkey's like a diamond, and grass monkey's kind of like a heart? I know it fits their typing, but I wonder if we could see an electric monkey with a diamond shaped tail or something in the next gen.
 
CRAP! The damn fire pig is a Fire/Fighting. WTH, why couldn't it be something new/different. Otter and Snake are still plain Water/Grass.
 
Apparently the screenshot with the Pokabu evo shows it with the same HP as a level 50 Pokabu so that scan could very well be fake.
 
think this is the translation from the scan

Hiyappu (Constant Heat Pokémon) has a new move called "Boiling Water" (熱湯・ねっとう) that, despite being a Water-type attack, actually inflicts the opponent with a Burn! :O


^EPIC Win for creativity

Baoppu (Water Throwing Pokémon) has a new move called "Burst Flame" (弾ける炎・はじけるほのお) that also deals damage to nearby opponents.

(got from serebii forums here, just spreading info)
 
think this is the translation from the scan

Hiyappu (Constant Heat Pokémon) has a new move called "Boiling Water" (熱湯・ねっとう) that, despite being a Water-type attack, actually inflicts the opponent with a Burn! :O


^EPIC Win for creativity

Baoppu (Water Throwing Pokémon) has a new move called "Burst Flame" (弾ける炎・はじけるほのお) that also deals damage to nearby opponents.

(got from serebii forums here, just spreading info)
Glad someone else could pick that up. I can't read the text that was so small, XD.
 
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