Pokemon Black and White (SPECULATIONS ALLOWED HERE)

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I really liked the branched evolutions.... some really cool pokemon came out of it. :(

Alternate forms seem to stupid to me because if they act like Rotom does on WiFi it will be pointless.

They definitely need a Fire/Normal type seeing as now we have Grass and Water counterparts.

Becuase we all know how much Bambi and Bibarel will be used...

But most branched evolutions were cool. Slowking, Gallade, Froslass, Politoed, all the Eeveelutions, the Hitmons and Shedinja.

Everything was good apart from Bellosom, Dustox/Beautifly, Huntail/Gorebyss and the Burmadam family.
 
I hope that the pirhana dude does have high stats. Making his water moves ridiculously strong gives him hard counters in the pokes that have water immunities, so he wouldn't be too imbalanced. The fact that he has two forms makes it more likely at least one of them will be good
 
I hope that the pirhana dude does have high stats. Making his water moves ridiculously strong gives him hard counters in the pokes that have water immunities, so he wouldn't be too imbalanced. The fact that he has two forms makes it more likely at least one of them will be good

Wish we knew what are the differences between the 2 forms. Hope we dont get trolled and have one form's defensive stats swap with the other form's offensive stats.
 
I hope that the pirhana dude does have high stats. Making his water moves ridiculously strong gives him hard counters in the pokes that have water immunities, so he wouldn't be too imbalanced. The fact that he has two forms makes it more likely at least one of them will be good
I think it's only visual differences. But who knows at the moment.
 
Even if the previously suggested stat spread for pirate fish does come about, Hydro Pump in rain has 300 BP... That's stronger than a non-stab Explosion. I mean, goddamn. That's got to pack a punch, right?
 
Updated Pokemon List:

494 Victini (Psychic/Fire)
495 Tsutaja (Grass)
496 Janobii (Grass)
497 Janobii Evo (Grass)
498 Pokabu (Fire)
499 Chaobuu (Fire/Fighting)
500 Chaobuu Evo (Fire/Fighting)
501 Mijumaru (Water)
502 Futachimaru (Water)
503 Futachimaru Evo (Water)
504 Minezumi (Normal)
505 Miruhoggu (Normal)
506 Yooterii (Normal)
507 Yooterii Evo 1 (Normal)
508 Yooterii Evo 2 (Normal)
509 Choroneko (Dark)
510 Choroneko Evo (Dark)
511 Yanappu (Grass)
512 Yanappu Evo (Grass)
513 Baoppu (Fire)
514 Baoppu Evo (Fire)
515 Hiyappu (Water)
516 Hiyappu Evo (Water)
517 Munna (Psychic)
518 Musharna (Psychic)
519 Mamepato (Normal/Flying)
520 Hatooboo (Normal/Flying)
521 Hatooboo Evo (Normal/Flying)
522 Shimama (Electric)
523 Shimama Evo (Electric)
524 Dangoro (Rock)
525 Dangoro Evo (Rock)
526 Gigaiasu (Rock)
527 Koromori (Psychic/Flying)
528 Koromori Evo (Psychic/Flying)
529 Moguryu (Ground)
530 Doryuuzu (Ground/Steel)
531 Tabunne (Normal)
532 Fighter w/ plank (Fighting)
533 Fighter w/ plank Evo 1 (Fighting)
534 Fighter w/ plank Evo 2 (Fighting)
535 Tadpole (Water)
536 Tadpole Evo 1 (Water/Ground)
537 Tadpole Evo 2 (Water/Ground)
538 Judo (Fighting)
539 Judo Evo (Fighting)
540 Kurumiru (Bug/Grass)
541 Kurumiru Evo 1 (Bug/Grass)
542 Kurumiru Evo 2 (Bug/Grass)
543 Centipede (Bug/Poison)
544 Centipede Evo 1 (Bug/Poison)
545 Centipede Evo 2 (Bug/Poison)
546 Monmen (Grass)
547 Monmen Evo (Grass)
548 Churine (Grass)
549 Churine Evo (Grass)
550 Basurao (Water)
551 Meguroko (Ground/Dark)
552 Meguroko Evo 1 (Ground/Dark)
553 Meguroko Evo 2 (Ground/Dark)
554 Darumakka (Fire) / Alternate: (Fire/Psychic)
555 Hihidaruma (Fire) / Alternate: (Fire/Psychic)
556 Dancing Cactus (Grass)
557 Hermit Crab (Bug/Rock)
558 Hermit Crab Evo (Bug/Rock)
559 Fighting Lizard (Dark/Fighting)
560 Fighting Lizard Evo (Dark/Fighting)
561 Flying Mask (Psychic/Flying)
562 Desukan Pre-Evo (Ghost)
563 Desukan (Ghost)
564 Archelon Fossil (Water/Rock)
565 Archelon Fossil Evo (Water/Rock)
566 Archaeopteryx Fossil (Rock/Flying)
567 Archaeopteryx Fossil Evo (Rock/Flying)
568 Garbage Bag (Poison)
569 Garbage Bag Evo (Poison)
570 Zorua (Dark)
571 Zoroark (Dark)
572 Chillarmy (Normal)
573 Chillarmy Evo (Normal)
574 Gochiruzeru Pre-Evo 1 (Psychic)
575 Gochiruzeru Pre-Evo 2 (Psychic)
576 Gochiruzeru (Psychic)
577 Rankurusu Pre-Evo 1 (Psychic)
578 Rankurusu Pre-Evo 2 (Psychic)
579 Rankurusu (Psychic)
580 Swana Pre-Evo (Water/Flying)
581 Swana (Water/Flying)
582 Ice Cream Ball (Ice)
583 Ice Cream Ball Evo 1 (Ice)
584 Ice Cream Ball Evo 2 (Ice)
585 Shikijika (Normal/Grass)
586 Mebukijika (Normal/Grass)
587 Emonga (Electric/Flying)
588 Knight Bug Pre-Evo (Bug)
589 Knight Bug (Bug/Steel)
590 Tamagetake (Grass/Poison)
591 Tamagetake Evo (Grass/Poison)
592
593
594
595
596
597
598
599 Giaru (Steel)
600 Giaru Evo 1 (Steel)
601 Giaru Evo 2 (Steel)
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631
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633 Hydra Pre-Evo 1 (Dark/Dragon)
634 Hydra Pre-Evo 2 (Dark/Dragon)
635 Hydra (Dark/Dragon)
636 ?????????? (Bug/Fire)
637 ?????????? (Bug/Fire)
638 Steel Legendary Beast (Steel/Fighting)
639 Rock Legendary Beast (Rock/Fighting)
640 Grass Legendary Beast (Grass/Fighting)
641 Flying Genie (Flying)
642 Electric Genie (Electric/Flying)
643 Reshiram (Fire/Dragon)
644 Zekrom (Electric/Dragon)
645 Ground Genie (Ground/Flying)
646 Third Dragon (Dragon/Ice)
647 Water Legendary Beast (Water/Fighting)
648 Girl/Boy (Normal/Psychic) / Alternate: (Normal/Fighting)
649 Robotic Bug (Bug/Steel)


Pokemon with unassigned numbers
Woogoru Pre-Evo
Woogoru (Normal/Flying)
Mamanbou (Water)
Kibago (Dragon)
Kibago Evo (Dragon)
Ononokusu (Dragon)
Denchura Pre-Evo
Denchura (Bug/Electric)
Baffuron (Normal)
Octopus
Octopus Evo
Polar Bear (Ice)
Polar Bear Evo (Ice)
Basic (Ice)
Basic (Grass/Steel)
Evo 1 (Grass/Steel)
Spider (Bug/Steel)
Power Ranger (Dark/Steel)
Power Ranger Evo (Dark/Steel)
Candle (Fire/Ghost)
Lantern (Fire/Ghost)
Candelabrum (Fire/Ghost)
Prince Jellyfish (Water/Ghost)
King Jellyfish (Water/Ghost)
Vulture (Dark)
Vulture Evo (Dark)
Alien (Psychic)
Alien Evo (Psychic)
Anteater (Fire)
Standalone Dragon (Dragon)
?????????? (Ground/Electric)
?????????? (Ground/Ghost)


38 slots - 32 pokemon = 6 pokemon left
 
Updated Pokemon List:


494 Victini (Psychic/Fire)
495 Tsutaja (Grass)
496 Janobii (Grass)
497 Janobii Evo (Grass)
498 Pokabu (Fire)
499 Chaobuu (Fire/Fighting)
500 Chaobuu Evo (Fire/Fighting)
501 Mijumaru (Water)
502 Futachimaru (Water)
503 Futachimaru Evo (Water)
504 Minezumi (Normal)
505 Miruhoggu (Normal)
506 Yooterii (Normal)
507 Yooterii Evo 1 (Normal)
508 Yooterii Evo 2 (Normal)
509 Choroneko (Dark)
510 Choroneko Evo (Dark)
511 Yanappu (Grass)
512 Yanappu Evo (Grass)
513 Baoppu (Fire)
514 Baoppu Evo (Fire)
515 Hiyappu (Water)
516 Hiyappu Evo (Water)
517 Munna (Psychic)
518 Musharna (Psychic)
519 Mamepato (Normal/Flying)
520 Hatooboo (Normal/Flying)
521 Hatooboo Evo (Normal/Flying)
522 Shimama (Electric)
523 Shimama Evo (Electric)
524 Dangoro (Rock)
525 Dangoro Evo (Rock)
526 Gigaiasu (Rock)
527 Koromori (Psychic/Flying)
528 Koromori Evo (Psychic/Flying)
529 Moguryu (Ground)
530 Doryuuzu (Ground/Steel)
531 Tabunne (Normal)
532 Fighter w/ plank (Fighting)
533 Fighter w/ plank Evo 1 (Fighting)
534 Fighter w/ plank Evo 2 (Fighting)
535 Tadpole (Water)
536 Tadpole Evo 1 (Water/Ground)
537 Tadpole Evo 2 (Water/Ground)
538 Judo (Fighting)
539 Judo Evo (Fighting)
540 Kurumiru (Bug/Grass)
541 Kurumiru Evo 1 (Bug/Grass)
542 Kurumiru Evo 2 (Bug/Grass)
543 Centipede (Bug/Poison)
544 Centipede Evo 1 (Bug/Poison)
545 Centipede Evo 2 (Bug/Poison)
546 Monmen (Grass)
547 Monmen Evo (Grass)
548 Churine (Grass)
549 Churine Evo (Grass)
550 Basurao (Water)
551 Meguroko (Ground/Dark)
552 Meguroko Evo 1 (Ground/Dark)
553 Meguroko Evo 2 (Ground/Dark)
554 Darumakka (Fire) / Alternate: (Fire/Psychic)
555 Hihidaruma (Fire) / Alternate: (Fire/Psychic)
556 Dancing Cactus (Grass)
557 Hermit Crab (Bug/Rock)
558 Hermit Crab Evo (Bug/Rock)
559 Fighting Lizard (Dark/Fighting)
560 Fighting Lizard Evo (Dark/Fighting)
561 Flying Mask (Psychic/Flying)
562 Desukan Pre-Evo (Ghost)
563 Desukan (Ghost)
564 Archelon Fossil (Water/Rock)
565 Archelon Fossil Evo (Water/Rock)
566 Archaeopteryx Fossil (Rock/Flying)
567 Archaeopteryx Fossil Evo (Rock/Flying)
568 Garbage Bag (Poison)
569 Garbage Bag Evo (Poison)
570 Zorua (Dark)
571 Zoroark (Dark)
572 Chillarmy (Normal)
573 Chillarmy Evo (Normal)
574 Gochiruzeru Pre-Evo 1 (Psychic)
575 Gochiruzeru Pre-Evo 2 (Psychic)
576 Gochiruzeru (Psychic)
577 Rankurusu Pre-Evo 1 (Psychic)
578 Rankurusu Pre-Evo 2 (Psychic)
579 Rankurusu (Psychic)
580 Swana Pre-Evo (Water/Flying)
581 Swana (Water/Flying)
582 Ice Cream Ball (Ice)
583 Ice Cream Ball Evo 1 (Ice)
584 Ice Cream Ball Evo 2 (Ice)
585 Shikijika (Normal/Grass)
586 Mebukijika (Normal/Grass)
587 Emonga (Electric/Flying)
588 Knight Bug Pre-Evo (Bug)
589 Knight Bug (Bug/Steel)
590 Tamagetake (Grass/Poison)
591 Tamagetake Evo (Grass/Poison)
592
593
594
595
596
597
598
599 Giaru (Steel)
600 Giaru Evo 1 (Steel)
601 Giaru Evo 2 (Steel)
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629
630
631
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633 Hydra Pre-Evo 1 (Dark/Dragon)
634 Hydra Pre-Evo 2 (Dark/Dragon)
635 Hydra (Dark/Dragon)
636 ?????????? (Bug/Fire)
637 ?????????? (Bug/Fire)
638 Steel Legendary Beast (Steel/Fighting)
639 Rock Legendary Beast (Rock/Fighting)
640 Grass Legendary Beast (Grass/Fighting)
641 Flying Genie (Flying)
642 Electric Genie (Electric/Flying)
643 Reshiram (Fire/Dragon)
644 Zekrom (Electric/Dragon)
645 Ground Genie (Ground/Flying)
646 Third Dragon (Dragon/Ice)
647 Water Legendary Beast (Water/Fighting)
648 Girl/Boy (Normal/Psychic) / Alternate: (Normal/Fighting)
649 Robotic Bug (Bug/Steel)


Woogoru Pre-Evo
Woogoru (Normal/Flying)
Mamanbou (Water)
Kibago (Dragon)
Kibago Evo (Dragon)
Ononokusu (Dragon)
Denchura Pre-Evo
Denchura (Bug/Electric)
Baffuron (Normal)
Octopus
Octopus Evo
Polar Bear (Ice)
Polar Bear Evo (Ice)
Basic (Ice)
Basic (Grass/Steel)
Evo 1 (Grass/Steel)
Spider (Bug/Steel)
Power Ranger (Dark/Steel)
Candle (Fire/Ghost)
Lantern (Fire/Ghost)
Candelabrum (Fire/Ghost)
Prince Jellyfish (Water/Ghost)
King Jellyfish (Water/Ghost)
Vulture (Dark)
Vulture Evo (Dark)
Alien (Psychic)
Alien Evo (Psychic)
Anteater (Fire)
?????????? (Ground/Electric)
?????????? (Ground/Ghost)


38 slots - 30 pokemon = 8 pokemon left

Where did you see all these?
 
Updated Pokemon List:


494 Victini (Psychic/Fire)
495 Tsutaja (Grass)
496 Janobii (Grass)
497 Janobii Evo (Grass)
498 Pokabu (Fire)
499 Chaobuu (Fire/Fighting)
500 Chaobuu Evo (Fire/Fighting)
501 Mijumaru (Water)
502 Futachimaru (Water)
503 Futachimaru Evo (Water)
504 Minezumi (Normal)
505 Miruhoggu (Normal)
506 Yooterii (Normal)
507 Yooterii Evo 1 (Normal)
508 Yooterii Evo 2 (Normal)
509 Choroneko (Dark)
510 Choroneko Evo (Dark)
511 Yanappu (Grass)
512 Yanappu Evo (Grass)
513 Baoppu (Fire)
514 Baoppu Evo (Fire)
515 Hiyappu (Water)
516 Hiyappu Evo (Water)
517 Munna (Psychic)
518 Musharna (Psychic)
519 Mamepato (Normal/Flying)
520 Hatooboo (Normal/Flying)
521 Hatooboo Evo (Normal/Flying)
522 Shimama (Electric)
523 Shimama Evo (Electric)
524 Dangoro (Rock)
525 Dangoro Evo (Rock)
526 Gigaiasu (Rock)
527 Koromori (Psychic/Flying)
528 Koromori Evo (Psychic/Flying)
529 Moguryu (Ground)
530 Doryuuzu (Ground/Steel)
531 Tabunne (Normal)
532 Fighter w/ plank (Fighting)
533 Fighter w/ plank Evo 1 (Fighting)
534 Fighter w/ plank Evo 2 (Fighting)
535 Tadpole (Water)
536 Tadpole Evo 1 (Water/Ground)
537 Tadpole Evo 2 (Water/Ground)
538 Judo (Fighting)
539 Judo Evo (Fighting)
540 Kurumiru (Bug/Grass)
541 Kurumiru Evo 1 (Bug/Grass)
542 Kurumiru Evo 2 (Bug/Grass)
543 Centipede (Bug/Poison)
544 Centipede Evo 1 (Bug/Poison)
545 Centipede Evo 2 (Bug/Poison)
546 Monmen (Grass)
547 Monmen Evo (Grass)
548 Churine (Grass)
549 Churine Evo (Grass)
550 Basurao (Water)
551 Meguroko (Ground/Dark)
552 Meguroko Evo 1 (Ground/Dark)
553 Meguroko Evo 2 (Ground/Dark)
554 Darumakka (Fire) / Alternate: (Fire/Psychic)
555 Hihidaruma (Fire) / Alternate: (Fire/Psychic)
556 Dancing Cactus (Grass)
557 Hermit Crab (Bug/Rock)
558 Hermit Crab Evo (Bug/Rock)
559 Fighting Lizard (Dark/Fighting)
560 Fighting Lizard Evo (Dark/Fighting)
561 Flying Mask (Psychic/Flying)
562 Desukan Pre-Evo (Ghost)
563 Desukan (Ghost)
564 Archelon Fossil (Water/Rock)
565 Archelon Fossil Evo (Water/Rock)
566 Archaeopteryx Fossil (Rock/Flying)
567 Archaeopteryx Fossil Evo (Rock/Flying)
568 Garbage Bag (Poison)
569 Garbage Bag Evo (Poison)
570 Zorua (Dark)
571 Zoroark (Dark)
572 Chillarmy (Normal)
573 Chillarmy Evo (Normal)
574 Gochiruzeru Pre-Evo 1 (Psychic)
575 Gochiruzeru Pre-Evo 2 (Psychic)
576 Gochiruzeru (Psychic)
577 Rankurusu Pre-Evo 1 (Psychic)
578 Rankurusu Pre-Evo 2 (Psychic)
579 Rankurusu (Psychic)
580 Swana Pre-Evo (Water/Flying)
581 Swana (Water/Flying)
582 Ice Cream Ball (Ice)
583 Ice Cream Ball Evo 1 (Ice)
584 Ice Cream Ball Evo 2 (Ice)
585 Shikijika (Normal/Grass)
586 Mebukijika (Normal/Grass)
587 Emonga (Electric/Flying)
588 Knight Bug Pre-Evo (Bug)
589 Knight Bug (Bug/Steel)
590 Tamagetake (Grass/Poison)
591 Tamagetake Evo (Grass/Poison)
592
593
594
595
596
597
598
599 Giaru (Steel)
600 Giaru Evo 1 (Steel)
601 Giaru Evo 2 (Steel)
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618
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633 Hydra Pre-Evo 1 (Dark/Dragon)
634 Hydra Pre-Evo 2 (Dark/Dragon)
635 Hydra (Dark/Dragon)
636 ?????????? (Bug/Fire)
637 ?????????? (Bug/Fire)
638 Steel Legendary Beast (Steel/Fighting)
639 Rock Legendary Beast (Rock/Fighting)
640 Grass Legendary Beast (Grass/Fighting)
641 Flying Genie (Flying)
642 Electric Genie (Electric/Flying)
643 Reshiram (Fire/Dragon)
644 Zekrom (Electric/Dragon)
645 Ground Genie (Ground/Flying)
646 Third Dragon (Dragon/Ice)
647 Water Legendary Beast (Water/Fighting)
648 Girl/Boy (Normal/Psychic) / Alternate: (Normal/Fighting)
649 Robotic Bug (Bug/Steel)


Woogoru Pre-Evo
Woogoru (Normal/Flying)
Mamanbou (Water)
Kibago (Dragon)
Kibago Evo (Dragon)
Ononokusu (Dragon)
Denchura Pre-Evo
Denchura (Bug/Electric)
Baffuron (Normal)
Octopus
Octopus Evo
Polar Bear (Ice)
Polar Bear Evo (Ice)
Basic (Ice)
Basic (Grass/Steel)
Evo 1 (Grass/Steel)
Spider (Bug/Steel)
Power Ranger (Dark/Steel)
Candle (Fire/Ghost)
Lantern (Fire/Ghost)
Candelabrum (Fire/Ghost)
Prince Jellyfish (Water/Ghost)
King Jellyfish (Water/Ghost)
Vulture (Dark)
Vulture Evo (Dark)
Alien (Psychic)
Alien Evo (Psychic)
Anteater (Fire)
?????????? (Ground/Electric)
?????????? (Ground/Ghost)


38 slots - 30 pokemon = 8 pokemon left

Your forgetting the standalone dragon and the power ranger evo, oh and the 3 stage pure electric line.
 
Updated Pokemon List:

B/W Pokedex was here...

38 slots - 30 pokemon = 8 pokemon left
If the dragon gym is true from what Pokexperto/PokeJungle said. I am taking a guess that one more dragon line(basic +1 evo, mostly likely) will be revealed. Another rock type floating around, and IDK on the rest of my guesses, XD.

EDIT: I didn't here about he standalone dragon. I guess that's the last one.
 
Mijumaru's Pokédex entry:
It fights with the scallop on its belly. After recieving a blow, it immediately counterattacks with a slash.

Sounds cool.
 
Even if the previously suggested stat spread for pirate fish does come about, Hydro Pump in rain has 300 BP... That's stronger than a non-stab Explosion. I mean, goddamn. That's got to pack a punch, right?

Actually Hydro pump has 360 BP in the rain.
120 x2(STAB) x 1.5(rain) = 360.

So yes, its going to pack a heck of a punch.
 
Even if the previously suggested stat spread for pirate fish does come about, Hydro Pump in rain has 300 BP... That's stronger than a non-stab Explosion. I mean, goddamn. That's got to pack a punch, right?
Actually, Explosion reduces the opponent's Defense by 1/2 when it calculates damage so it has an effective Base Power of 500. So Adaptability Rain-boosted Hydro Pump won't be stronger than Explosion, but will hit very hard.
 
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