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Mew

Bliss said:
I dont know, but another question: Do you even want to pass it, youll sweeper you pass the boost to will lost his STAB-Moves and change into a type you may dont even need, and you switch will have the same weaknesses as Mew and thats definitly not good to switch in.
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Actually, think about it. The sweeper loses the boost to their usual STAB moves, but if you play your cards right, they would instead gain the boost to other ones of their moves- perhaps a typing they would enjoy more.


On another note about Mirror Type, if Mew were to snag an Electric type, it could be rather fearsome. A pokemon without a single weakness (outside of Gravity and... Knock Down, I think?), 100/100/100 defenses and 100 in both offensive stats and speed... is just a little scary.
 
Breludicolo said:
Just a note:

In addition to its levelup movepool, it can learn every 3rd gen tutor move (Double Edge, Seismic Toss, Night Shade, Hypnosis, Dynamicpunch, Zap Cannon, and Fake Out and Mimic are the exlusives of this gen) and 4th gen tutor/tm move with no compatibility issues with any move or ability. I know tat this is rather obvious but all I'm saying is that the OP should post all of its moves (5th gen tms, 4th gen tms/tutors, 3rd gen tutors) because there are no compatibility issues.

Anyway, Mew's best purpose is as a baton passer; I'm not sure if it will stay Uber this gen, honestly.
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Not to mention the XD tutors.
Kindrindra said:
Actually, think about it. The sweeper loses the boost to their usual STAB moves, but if you play your cards right, they would instead gain the boost to other ones of their moves- perhaps a typing they would enjoy more.


On another note about Mirror Type, if Mew were to snag an Electric type, it could be rather fearsome. A pokemon without a single weakness (outside of Gravity and... Knock Down, I think?), 100/100/100 defenses and 100 in both offensive stats and speed... is just a little scary.
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No weaknesses? Mew's ability is Synchronize, not Levitate.
 
Blalu said:
Why is Mew uber again? I always found it quite easy to beat with Weavile.
In the other hand, Jirachi......
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That's clearly not a reason to make it OU.

Mew is uber because of its incredible movepool + semi-uber stats. Other semi-ubers like Jirachi and Celebi are very good but Mew can be just everything.

I would like to test it in OU as Mew isn't uber powerful, but he will probably be banned because of its uber versatility.
 
Camara said:
That's clearly not a reason to make it OU.

Mew is uber because of its incredible movepool + semi-uber stats. Other semi-ubers like Jirachi and Celebi are very good but Mew can be just everything.

I would like to test it in OU as Mew isn't uber powerful, but he will probably be banned because of its uber versatility.
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Smeargle is uber versatile, should we ban him?
 
Mew's a pokemon that can't be consistenly checked by any one other pokemon. That's why it's considered uber; there's no telling what it's plan is.
 
Ballad said:
Yet Salamence remained OU until nearly the end of gen 4
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The thing with Scizor is that there were checks to him that were commonj. No matter what set was used there were pokemon on almost every team that could counter it. The reason being was because salamence only had four or so main sets and even then one set was WAY more used than others.

Now Mew was a pokemon with 16 sets and a pokemon in which no one did the same thing. One battle you switched in darkrai on your opponents mew and killed it. The next it agilitied in your face and killed you! So that was one of the reasons it was uber.
 
mew adamant/jolly (4hp/252att/252spe) life orb

-baton pass
-swords dance
-nitro charge
-dragon claw

no STAB but great coverage and great boosts to BP along. how much would +2 LO nitro charge do to an opposing scizor switch in?
 
Difference between Mew and Salamence is that in one set, Salamence could threaten every OU pokemon. So you had to predict, if you switched in a steel type to eq/fire blast you were screwed, or switching anything non steel into draco meteor. Mew will never be able to pull this off because it lacks the stats and the typing. Honestly Mew may be unpredictable but it's still nowhere near as powerful as salamence. Even tyranitar is more potent than Mew. Tyranitar doesn't learn every move but he learns enough to threaten everything that can switch into it, hence why there are so many bait sets. While Mew could do this in theory, it will be less effective than Tyranitar at it. Sure it can run a coverage move of every type, and boost any stat plus 2, but it's typing and stats are inferior preventing it from being as effective. 4gen Mix Salamence could threaten every pokemon in one set. Mew will never be able to do that. In fact, as far as I could tell, Jirachi can pretty much do anything Mew can in terms of offensive sets but he does it with better typing a better ability. So if you want an unpredictable pokemon use Tyranitar or Jirachi. Not Mew.
 
As a baton passer mew now has much more competition in Volbeat, new toys for Smeargle and other things.

I could however see Calm Mind / Shadow Ball / Aura Sphere / Baton Pass be a effective set. It also has a niche on the aforementioned pokemon in being able to sweep by itself. Nasty Plot Lucario would be a nice recipient covering the bug/ghost/dark weak.
 
sweeper mew at least initially is going to run into the fact that mewtwo exists which puts a big damper on it. Going sword dance is probably the better option of the two but even then bulk up mewtwo is no slouch either.

dual screens/baton pass will probably be a good option still, along with willow o wisp since it's a relatively rare debuff move.
 
Could something like this work, or is it completely outclassed by Salamence and friends?

MixMew (Cheer Up)
@ Life Orb / Leftovers / Expert Belt
252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: +Spe / +(Sp)Atk

Cheer Up
Dragon Pulse / Dragon Claw / Ice Beam
Earthquake / Aura Sphere
Nitro Charge / Flamethrower

The idea here is to use Cheer Up, and then to go to town with the coverage moves. Nitro charge might make a late-game sweep easier to pull off.
 
a swords dance, baton pass mew should be able to eat volbeat's lunch with nitro charge. erufuun's as well. even if you don't get to pass a swords dance passing +1, hopefully +2 speed, to lucario (justice heart!)/gyarados/dragon of your choice is no laughing matter.
 
MarsVolta said:
Difference between Mew and Salamence is that in one set, Salamence could threaten every OU pokemon. So you had to predict, if you switched in a steel type to eq/fire blast you were screwed, or switching anything non steel into draco meteor. Mew will never be able to pull this off because it lacks the stats and the typing. Honestly Mew may be unpredictable but it's still nowhere near as powerful as salamence. Even tyranitar is more potent than Mew. Tyranitar doesn't learn every move but he learns enough to threaten everything that can switch into it, hence why there are so many bait sets. While Mew could do this in theory, it will be less effective than Tyranitar at it. Sure it can run a coverage move of every type, and boost any stat plus 2, but it's typing and stats are inferior preventing it from being as effective. 4gen Mix Salamence could threaten every pokemon in one set. Mew will never be able to do that. In fact, as far as I could tell, Jirachi can pretty much do anything Mew can in terms of offensive sets but he does it with better typing a better ability. So if you want an unpredictable pokemon use Tyranitar or Jirachi. Not Mew.
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I guess you didn't know that in one turn of set up Mew could 2-ko the whole metagame. That's the same thing sal did with just as much speed. Also Mew has more type coverage than sala and can switch in and out more. So by no means is Salamence completely better than mew, same with jirachi and tyranitar.

Also what is with everyone saying 100 all around sucks? I'd rather use an all around good pokemon than one with a lot of power that has trouble switching along with a 4 times effective weakness.
 
mew ia right now uber for the same thing salamence was banned for in the 4th gen...unpredictability. this pokemon moveste is vast. it can learn swords dance and nasty plot. not only is it good for baton pass if it was OU its movepool makes it an amazing sweeper after 1 or 2 nasty plots/ swords dance. it basically checks every pokemon.
 
timejirachi said:
mew ia right now uber for the same thing salamence was banned for in the 4th gen...unpredictability. this pokemon moveste is vast. it can learn swords dance and nasty plot. not only is it good for baton pass if it was OU its movepool makes it an amazing sweeper after 1 or 2 nasty plots/ swords dance. it basically checks every pokemon.
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Gen 4 standards for ubers no longer apply.

If Mew really is still uber, it'll demonstrate such in testing. It cannot justifiably be banned until then.
 
i thought it all ready was banned. imma test this set in battling

mew
252 sp.atk, 252 spe, 4 hp
modest/timid( don't know yet)

nasty plot
flamethrower
thunderbolt
dragon pulse/ ice beam

i think this covers every pokemon with out any pokemon resisting it.
 
To time: Um I would use timid for that set so that you could kill all the positive 90-99 pokemon. Also tying with salamence and jirachi never hurt anyone (besides the guy that lost the speed tie xD)
 
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