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Wi-Fi Blacklist: as of January 30th, 2014
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WTF? We never agreed on an Item Clause before our match. And Item Clause isn't standard. Your sig doesn't even say anything about you wanting to play with Item Clause on.
oh i was suppose to declare that
Duh, dur.......
Next time you have a problem, you should PM about any issues you have with me BEFORE jumping to conclusions and trying to blacklist my ass.
I see I am on that blacklist... Wait a minute! When Kazuya cloned my Darkrai, SHE gave it Nasty Plot! I did not know it was illegal (I thought it was a tutor move) until someone PMd me, while by that time, I had stopped trading. I am definitely putting her off my whitelist as soon as Black and White comes out and I get a new trade thread. While she did clone my Darkrai, I don't forgive her. Still, while she did hack it in, she probably forgot that it couldn't learn it at that level. Still, she should have put the move on legitly. Believe me, back then, I had no AR, and I only got access to one very recently. She gets off my whitelist, but not on my blacklist.
I guess I am partially at fault for specifically asking to teach it Nasty Plot. Still, she should have known better before actually doing it without telling me that it was illegal. Which is why I am not putting her on my blacklist until I have a good reason to think she did it to spite me. (Outside of the Nasty Plot, the Darkrai was completely legit from Shadows of Almia. If I ever trade again, I will make Darkrai forget the move, and also make a clone that is leveled enough to actually learn the move legitly.)
Also, Latiosmaster didn't give me back a clone of my Articuno, and I don't have any more copies. But I don't think that's his fault, he just didn't have time.
Now I know why my thread is closed. It doesn't matter, though, I am done with Gen IV battling. My only regret is, if you do not take me off the blacklist, I won't be allowed to make a Generation V thread.
At the very least, put me on the probational blacklist for not realizing it sooner. I am sorry.
I guess I am partially at fault for specifically asking to teach it Nasty Plot. Still, she should have known better before actually doing it without telling me that it was illegal. Which is why I am not putting her on my blacklist until I have a good reason to think she did it to spite me. (Outside of the Nasty Plot, the Darkrai was completely legit from Shadows of Almia. If I ever trade again, I will make Darkrai forget the move, and also make a clone that is leveled enough to actually learn the move legitly.)
Also, Latiosmaster didn't give me back a clone of my Articuno, and I don't have any more copies. But I don't think that's his fault, he just didn't have time.
Now I know why my thread is closed. It doesn't matter, though, I am done with Gen IV battling. My only regret is, if you do not take me off the blacklist, I won't be allowed to make a Generation V thread.
At the very least, put me on the probational blacklist for not realizing it sooner. I am sorry.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/member.php?u=50421
This person, EXIE, openly admitted to hacking Wondercards. The problem being he's passing off his "RNGed" Pokemon from these hacked Wondercards as legit. I've had confirmation from several hack checking people and programs they are indeed, illegit.
This person, EXIE, openly admitted to hacking Wondercards. The problem being he's passing off his "RNGed" Pokemon from these hacked Wondercards as legit. I've had confirmation from several hack checking people and programs they are indeed, illegit.
I received the same exact celebi from Labarith. I hack checked it and came up hacked BUT the program hasnt been updated in a while and all the CROWN events come up that way as well.
I don't believe Labarith is in the wrong as i checked EXIE's Trade thread and no where in there does it list that it was obtained from a hacked wondercard. I dont see this as a Legimitate reason to ban him as all over in people's trade threads the have pokes that have been obtained from hacked wondercards. IF anything this should fall on EXIE as he did not communicate properly on his thread informing the masses that it was obtained that way
Link to EXIE's thread for proof HERE
My bad, I did originally say that I downloaded my wondercards from http://pkmdb.webs.com/ but then I took that info off my thread as I didn't think it was necessary...I have already rectified that. Either way though, is a poke coming from a hacked wondercard, but RNG'd legitimately, any different to one coming from a legit wondercard, in terms of the poke itself?
The PID is not affected, therefore it would pass a legit check. I do think it should be noted that it's from a hacked Wondercard though...
okay, thanks for clearing that up.
The wondercard issue seems more like an ethics problem than a blacklistable offense. I got a couple Pokewalker courses from Action replay codes, does that make my Modest Bounce Magikarp hacked when it uses the same IV mechanics as the other Pokemon from legit routes?
If you don't like it, don't trade with him. Simple as that.
If you don't like it, don't trade with him. Simple as that.
I agree that it is not blacklistable, but I want to point out that there's a big difference between a hacked wondercard and a Wondercard that has been ripped from a save file. A ripped Wondercard is exactly like the original card received. A hacked wondercard is created by someone and very likely has flaws and mistakes. The pokemon from a ripped card is technically legit, even if the card was not obtained through official channels. I for one do not call ripped Wondercards hacked. Yes, we do hack the ripped cards onto a game, but they aren't hacked cards. The term is very misleading.
Ripped Wondercards are hacked. It's failing hack checks from several hack checkers who check the hex data in it and such.
Something is not 'technically legit'. Legit is a clean term, it's legit, or it isn't. It has no gray area.
The fact of how dishonest he is regarding if he did or didn't hack the wondercard in his thread is suspicious. I had to dig deep in profile comments to see him admitting to hacking the wondercard.
One last thing, EXIE, what seed did you use?
And yet you asked me to RNG one for you recently, knowing that's how I'd get the Wondercard. I seriously doubt many Smogoners were in Japan when this Celebi event was happening.
Mattj, thank you. That's the only thing that matters.
End of discussion here. If I see any further arguments posted here about this, I'll proceed with further warnings.
The IVs on that regice suck compared to one that can be RNG'd anyways, so I'm not wasting my time on this fucking crap.
"End of discussion here. If I see any further arguments posted here about this, I'll proceed with further warnings"
I'm given a hacked Pokemon and you act like this?
I'm given a hacked Pokemon and you act like this?
You weren't given a hack, what you're crying about is saying that a Pokemon isn't legit cuz I hacked my Heal Ball to catch it in. He could have gotten it if he went to Japan, as he hasn't, and neither have you. It's legit, as he still WORKED (the part that makes it legit) for it.
Now if he had gotten with perfect IV's any nature he wanted, without working for it, that'd be a hack.
Now calm down, Exie is legit.
No, it isn't legit. It's failing hack checks from people who actually know what the hell they are doing. Explain this, because he can't.
The method of generating the Celebi was not legit. If I hack a 31/31/31/31/31 Adamant Aggron for instance, but make it appear legit, is it? It's legit stats. I worked for money to afford the AR, so it's legit, right?
The method of generating the Celebi was not legit. If I hack a 31/31/31/31/31 Adamant Aggron for instance, but make it appear legit, is it? It's legit stats. I worked for money to afford the AR, so it's legit, right?
Citation needed. The sentence "People who check the hex data and such" doesn't say much. BTW, Legit.exe will say they are hacked regardless of wether the Wondercards were ripped or not because the program's database hasn't been updated with the latest events like the Eruption Heatran or the Crown beasts.
The Wondercards may not be completely legitimate, but the pokémon itself is generated by the actual game, and to my knowledge, there is no actual difference. They even activate the corresponding events in BW games.
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