Meh. That's your opinion. I prefer Life Orb for the added power. I really never felt there was a need for Leftovers with magic guard negating all passive damage you recieve.
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Reuniclus
- Thread starter Pratty
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Just say that you're opinion isn't the same as other people's
I've tried both,and Lefties seems better because it's easier to set up with it.
I've NEVER seen a Reuniclus use Lefties yet. I'm sure some do, but LO is far and away the item of choice. I mean, it literally has no drawbacks and offers a huge damage boost. Lefties would be very useful on a Wall Reuniclus. Something with Calm Mind/Acid Armor, dual screens, Toxic and the like where you're going to stall. But if you actually plan on attacking, LO is probably the better item.
Neither item is clearly better than the other, I've used both and they both have advantages. But I'm gonna say that a free 6% recovery is more useful than it seems.
I'm also seeing a lot more Scizors lately, both CB and SDs. So many of them were able to set up on Reuniclus that I've actually stopped using it for now. :(
I'm also seeing a lot more Scizors lately, both CB and SDs. So many of them were able to set up on Reuniclus that I've actually stopped using it for now. :(
I'm lost why is this thing a suspect ?
Its powerful but I haven't had enough issues with it that it's game breaking
Its powerful but I haven't had enough issues with it that it's game breaking
Because people think it breaks full stall, ignoring the fact that full stall isn't really viable any more anyway.
To add to it, Reuniclus can abuse Magic Guard and its great bulk to set up Calm Mind or Trick Room and then proceed to destroy almost everything in its path. It also has Recover to heal off battle damage, making it harder to take down.
Absolute beast on my hail team thanks to magic guard. Its the only reason they succeed and far surpasses the usefulness of the other members. ^_^' Trick room, and then I can switch to the many lardo ice type pokemon I have such as Lapras or Abomasnow and etc.
I'm pretty sure its more because of the fact that when ever some one switches to a counter it can trick room and become faster than said counter. And it has enough bulk to survive most attacks and just heal it off while stating up, and forces the opponent to pack a very limited set of moves in order to defeat it. =P
I'm pretty sure its more because of the fact that when ever some one switches to a counter it can trick room and become faster than said counter. And it has enough bulk to survive most attacks and just heal it off while stating up, and forces the opponent to pack a very limited set of moves in order to defeat it. =P
It doesn't force you to pack anything except some pokemon that can hit hard which most teams should have anyway. Think CM Slowbro but better due to magic guard.
They have to hit rrrrreeeeeeal hard my friend. Especially once all your physical guys are pretty much toast or crippled. Its the perfect late game sweeper really. Once the few enemies it has are gone, nothing is in its way. For example some one gave Chandelure as a example of a counter. But ur screwed if its a trick room Reuniclus cuz its gonna kill you instead of it being the other way around. =P Even its supposed counters can be owned by it!
EDIT: Really from my experience the only useful/deadly one is the trick room one. I've killed countless numbers on Reunicluses but the TR one is the only one that ever caused a problem. The others were always easily handled.
I prefer lefties myself. There has never once been a situation where the lack of life orb power has cost me a sweep, but there have been plenty when leftovers recovery saved my cellular bacon, especially with focus blast missing all the time.
If this thing wasn't a crummy psychic type it might have actually lived up to the overhype. They couldn't even have made it a grass type? It's a cell. It's biology. It's green.
If this thing wasn't a crummy psychic type it might have actually lived up to the overhype. They couldn't even have made it a grass type? It's a cell. It's biology. It's green.
Seriously what you say can be applied to anything. Once Doryuuzu's enemies are gone it can sweep. Once Garchomp's enemies are gone it can sweep. The difference is Dory and Garchomp actually have specific counters that are probably also being used to wall other stuff meaning they're more likely to be dead or seriously low HP by the time they come out late game. Rankurusu is outsped by everything and 2-3HKOed by anything that isn't a wall so you only need to have 2 offensive pokemon remaining even if they're on like 1 HP.
And which version you have more trouble with obviously depends on what sort of team you use. In general I find the TR version easier to deal with unless you're running pure hyper offense with nothing that can take a hit. Because even though rankurusu is bulky, TR versions don't boost or heal so it's just a matter of walling its attacks like any other special sweeper.
Life Orb is the best option on the Trick Room set's, as they are just there to setup TR and instantly sweep under it. Leftovers is better for the infamous CM+Recover sets, as it helps taking hits while setting up.
Wait, so you're saying our functional basic unit of life is made of grass?
Buddy, you clearly haven't been either paying attention to this thread or playing against Rank. The point is, CM destroys stall, as no stall team carries Spiritomb or CB T-tar, (despite his really low chance of actually beating Rank), so they usually won't be able to break it
If Stall can't find room for a Spiritomb or a CB T-tar, it's Stall's fault, not Reuniclus'. As people said already, nowhere it's stated that Full Stall deserves to exist. If it can't keep up with the metagame, it'll just become a less used option, like many other styles in the past. No one whined because, say, Tyranitar hindered badly Hail Stall in 4th gen, I don't see why Full Stall deserves better treatment.
Saying that is pretty much undermining every ban ever. If OU teams can't find a place for Banded Mamoswine, that is OU's fault, not Rayquaza's. That statement is so incredibly devoid of logic I feel dumb refuting it. Stall is a huge playstyle, and if every team needs to run crappy Spiritomb, they will all be significantly worse against teams without Rank. Read the previous posts before saying something like this
Masterful can you stop bringing up old arguments. They're not any better now than when they were shot down 5 pages ago and certainly aren't any better than when they were shot down 10 pages ago.
Generic and unneeded insults aside, there's a lil difference between your Mamo/Rayquaza example and Reuniclus. Aside from the fact that Mamo is a Rayquaza check at best whereas Spiritomb hard counters almost every Reuniclus variant, in Mamo/Rayquaza case every team style would need him, whereas in Reuniclus' case only Full Stall runs into such problems, to the point of needing Spiritomb or Ttar to deal with it. I read what was posted before, and what I saw is only people who can't accept the fact that OU can live even without Full stall being a top tier option.
That would be cute if they were ever actually shut down. No one ever really succeeded in refuting. If you think they did, repeat that argument right now, and I'll refute it. It seems really ironic that you would accuse me, while it is really you that keeps bringing up defeated arguemnts. I keep bringing it up because it proves you people wrong, yet you all seem to either be able to ignore logic or make an incredibly weak, unsupported refutation, then ignore MY response in which I shoot that down, and then whine about my (still-standing)argument being repeated later in hopes someone actually serious about making sense will magically appear on this thread and seriously debate the merits of banning Rank
