He scored 16 points in 20 minutes in game six to bring the Mavs back from like 20 points down and was immediately benched in favor of Terry. The only legitimate argument against the Mavs is that Terry sucks unless he's hot.
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Official NBA 2010-11 Season Thread
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He scored 16 points in 20 minutes in game six to bring the Mavs back from like 20 points down and was immediately benched in favor of Terry. The only legitimate argument against the Mavs is that Terry sucks unless he's hot.
Against the Mavs in terms of.. what? Them being contenders?
It's amazing how many stats this kid looks up but can't use his common sense to admit the Lakers' length is a factor in their rings.
It is in the NBA world!
they also didnt win a ring together until Bynum returned the season after
Against the Mavs in terms of.. what? Them being contenders?
It's amazing how many stats this kid looks up but can't use his common sense to admit the Lakers' length is a factor in their rings.
Pretty much dude.
And I'm loving that .gif though, Bosh should go play soccer in europe with the rest of the pansies.
He obviously took lessons from Vlade Divac.
*purposely ignores all rebounding stats, a drop in defense with the absence of Bynum, and paint scoring*
*purposely ignores rebounding being a predictor of the last NBA finals*
*purposely ignores rebounding as a stat period*
And what lucky breaks.. exactly? There's nothing lucky about having the top 3 records for years and going to the finals 3 times.
I knew you would take the lucky breaks comment and run with it as if I was deriding anything. If a finals is not a 4-5 game series, then one team probably got some lucky breaks. The Celtics seemed to get more in 2008, the Lakers seemed to get more in 2010. Games come down to little things. Lakers sure got as many breaks as they could ask for in the final game in 2010, for instance. The Lakers-Magic series had less flukishness for sure. A lot of things add up to a win, including some lucky breaks, just how sports can be.
As to the rest, Bynum is a part of that solid team, not sure how you think that means I am ignoring anything.
As to the rest, Bynum is a part of that solid team, not sure how you think that means I am ignoring anything.
Do you think rebounding and protecting the paint are important indicators of defense?
minnesota is the top rebounding team in the league and one of the worst defensive teams in the league. boston is amongst the bottom 1/3 in rebounding in the nba and amongst the top defensive teams.
protecting the paint sure... rebounding? no. at best there tends to be a mild correlation, but neither is an indicator of another, especially not an important indicator
protecting the paint sure... rebounding? no. at best there tends to be a mild correlation, but neither is an indicator of another, especially not an important indicator
Total rebounds aren't a real indication, but defensive rebounding is better.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/stats/b...team&conference=NBA&year=season_2010&sort=242
Certainly, looking at it from a regular season total stand point, it would seem that rebounding isn't important, but when you look at the past teams in the ECF/WCF, or finals itself, rebounding is a huge factor in who controls the pace of the game. Giving the opposing team one shot opportunities limits their possessions and gives you a chance to run offense against any opposing defense without it being set.
What's the point of limiting easy shots at the rim when you don't finish the possession with a rebound? So a team shoots 43%; it'll look like nothing if they get extra possessions or easy putbacks. That's one of the main reasons why the Celtics lost game 7.
http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300617013
The Lakers shot worse in pretty much all areas, but were so huge on both sides of the boards that it didn't matter if the Celtics played better defense. They simply couldn't finish out the possessions in the fourth quarter (I guess you technically could consider Perkins' injury a lucky break.. fine).
Try to look at the past few championships (00s and 90s) and find not one big men that at least dominated the boards (usually, there are two, but sometimes there has only been one).
If the Lakers length and big men didn't matter, I'm sure the Thunder wouldn't have gone out of there way to sign two big men or the Mavs to get Chandler, or the Celtics to sign two centers (even though they're doing some stupid stuff now IMO), or the Heat to get Dampier.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/stats/b...team&conference=NBA&year=season_2010&sort=242
Certainly, looking at it from a regular season total stand point, it would seem that rebounding isn't important, but when you look at the past teams in the ECF/WCF, or finals itself, rebounding is a huge factor in who controls the pace of the game. Giving the opposing team one shot opportunities limits their possessions and gives you a chance to run offense against any opposing defense without it being set.
What's the point of limiting easy shots at the rim when you don't finish the possession with a rebound? So a team shoots 43%; it'll look like nothing if they get extra possessions or easy putbacks. That's one of the main reasons why the Celtics lost game 7.
http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300617013
The Lakers shot worse in pretty much all areas, but were so huge on both sides of the boards that it didn't matter if the Celtics played better defense. They simply couldn't finish out the possessions in the fourth quarter (I guess you technically could consider Perkins' injury a lucky break.. fine).
Try to look at the past few championships (00s and 90s) and find not one big men that at least dominated the boards (usually, there are two, but sometimes there has only been one).
If the Lakers length and big men didn't matter, I'm sure the Thunder wouldn't have gone out of there way to sign two big men or the Mavs to get Chandler, or the Celtics to sign two centers (even though they're doing some stupid stuff now IMO), or the Heat to get Dampier.
i was looking at it from the perspective of rebounding efficiency, not total rebounding, be it only defensive rebounding either
hence my point that a team's ability to rebound is not an indication of that team's defensive ability
though, to be fair, it is easy to see how total defensive rebounding and defense are related. the better the defense, the more misses and the more misses, the more rebounds available to grab. but having more available rebounds to grab has little to do with how
efficiently you rebound
to re-articulate: when posing the question "is rebounding an important indicator of defense", i take it to mean "rebounding" as equivalent to "rebounding ability". and rebounding ability is a measure of rebounding efficiency, which is not accurately measured by examining total defensive rebounds, even though total defensive rebounds and defensive efficiency correlate non-trivially
hence my point that a team's ability to rebound is not an indication of that team's defensive ability
though, to be fair, it is easy to see how total defensive rebounding and defense are related. the better the defense, the more misses and the more misses, the more rebounds available to grab. but having more available rebounds to grab has little to do with how
efficiently you rebound
to re-articulate: when posing the question "is rebounding an important indicator of defense", i take it to mean "rebounding" as equivalent to "rebounding ability". and rebounding ability is a measure of rebounding efficiency, which is not accurately measured by examining total defensive rebounds, even though total defensive rebounds and defensive efficiency correlate non-trivially
Is there a stat that measures how efficient a team rebounds? Can that even be defined?
yes, rather easily with rebounding percentage. out of available rebounds, the team which rebounds the greatest percentage of those available rebounds is the most efficienct rebounding team
but maybe that team plays at a really slow pace, thus fewer shots are taken, hence fewer rebounds are available. so their total rebounding numbers might be middle of the pack but their rebounding efficiency can be very high
but maybe that team plays at a really slow pace, thus fewer shots are taken, hence fewer rebounds are available. so their total rebounding numbers might be middle of the pack but their rebounding efficiency can be very high
Okay, fair enough. I was under the impression you didn't think rebounding indicated anything at all. Rebound efficiency would still be rebounding if you agree that's an indicator.
yeahhh i mean that's what we were talking about
I think that Terry criticism might be on to something. Terry hasn't defended point guards any better than Jason Kidd. Both are old and slow.
Your best point defender is probably Barea or Beabous in terms of speed but they don't have any strength.
Just hope you don't face the Hornets or OKC and you'll be fine first round. You actually match up with the Lakers best because they're as old and slow on the perimeter as you are.
Your best point defender is probably Barea or Beabous in terms of speed but they don't have any strength.
Just hope you don't face the Hornets or OKC and you'll be fine first round. You actually match up with the Lakers best because they're as old and slow on the perimeter as you are.
Nobody flops worse than Manu.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNxiWES8G0o
Edit:
This video is 100% appropriate for Chris Bosh's 1/18 performance against Chicago. http://vimeo.com/16923891
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNxiWES8G0o
Edit:
This video is 100% appropriate for Chris Bosh's 1/18 performance against Chicago. http://vimeo.com/16923891
Why did the Suns trade Dragic...why? I'll admit, initially I wasn't a big fan, but he's improved quite a bit since then, and who can forget his torching of the Spurs just last year? And now we've traded him AND a first round pick for basically some other PG from Houston? I mean, seriously...a lateral move that loses us a pick, especially one that should be ok given how bad the Suns are going to finish? Sigh...guess this is just another one of the many boneheaded trades/contracts that were made this year, seriously whoever they have making these moves needs to be fucking fired. If you're gonna make a trade, get a true FUCKING PF you dumbshits.