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So let me see what I've got right. Fill in/correct please, this is an example for Perfect Victini.

I'm going to test-catch Victini a couple of times to find a calibrated Delay (that might still take some time, is there an american IV check code?)

Once I've figured that out, I'm going to use a Timer as instructed, walk 22272 steps (Frame 526, so minus 3, 3 pokemon in party meaning (523/3)*128 steps).

Whether or not that's correct, if the Nature I want is on frame 37 of that RNG (I know, these values are ridiculous), I would save how many times? I wish I could assume 36
 
Reaga said:
So let me see what I've got right. Fill in/correct please, this is an example for Perfect Victini.

I'm going to test-catch Victini a couple of times to find a calibrated Delay (that might still take some time, is there an american IV check code?)

Once I've figured that out, I'm going to use a Timer as instructed, walk 22272 steps (Frame 526, so minus 3, 3 pokemon in party meaning (523/3)*128 steps).

Whether or not that's correct, if the Nature I want is on frame 37 of that RNG (I know, these values are ridiculous), I would save how many times? I wish I could assume 36
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I'm sure you can find a C-Gear seed that doesn't have your spread on such a high frame. The tradeoff might be a higher delay, but it'll be so worth it.

Don't worry about nature for now, just use a Synchronizer. If your Synchronizer doesn't work the first time, save once before the encounter to advance the PIDRNG. Repeat until the Synchronizer works.
 
Actually, out of 80 results, that was the lowest perfect. I found a 31/3/31/31/31/31 for frame 145, I'm willing to settle that, that was just an example situation. I"m not legitimately planning to walk 22272 steps
 
Reaga said:
So let me see what I've got right. Fill in/correct please, this is an example for Perfect Victini.

I'm going to test-catch Victini a couple of times to find a calibrated Delay (that might still take some time, is there an american IV check code?)

Once I've figured that out, I'm going to use a Timer as instructed, walk 22272 steps (Frame 526, so minus 3, 3 pokemon in party meaning (523/3)*128 steps).

Whether or not that's correct, if the Nature I want is on frame 37 of that RNG (I know, these values are ridiculous), I would save how many times? I wish I could assume 36
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You don't find a calibrated delay. You find a seed with a delay from 1500 to around 6000 and you try to hit, calibrating along the way. You don't do the same calibration phase you may've done in 4th gen.
 
Reaga said:
Actually, out of 80 results, that was the lowest perfect. I found a 31/3/31/31/31/31 for frame 145, I'm willing to settle that, that was just an example situation. I"m not legitimately planning to walk 22272 steps
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It might help if you shared your MAC address and your delay search range so we can show you how to find better spreads on lower frames.
 
So remove the calibration, but did I miss anything else?

I'm still questioning the number of saves to hit a certain nature as well.

EDIT:
Max Frame: 2000
Min/Max Delay: 1600-6000
MAC Address: (last 6 digits): a80ee0

I'd put 31/_/31/31/31/31 Year: 2011.

That was my entire search

And apparently I did the edit option wrong, but this time I have all the info in one post.
 
So there's no pre-calibration needed this time as with HG/SS?

Also the best method of advancing the frame - to be clear - is saving the game, which advances once for each save?? Seems like the best option as walking thousands of steps will be too time consuming and hard to keep track of.

Also can anyone tell me how I go about finding my seeds specifically for method 5 in gen 5?
 
Tornado, from what I've gathered the saving only advances nature/gender/ability, not IV. I think you'd still have to walk the steps until something better is figured out.
 
What are you trying to capture\hatch? Please specify whether you are attempting to breed a shiny Pokémon, breed IVs onto a Pokémon, or capture a Pokémon.

-CAPTURE A WILD POKEMON IN A GRASS PATCH WITH DECENT IVs

What is your target seed and frame? What is the delay of that seed? What is the MAC address of the DS you are using?
-IDK WHAT THESE ARE, THE GUIDE DOES NOT EXPLAIN WHAT THESE ARE
How did you verify your seed?

I have RNG Reporter 9 Beta 1 and Desmum and Pokemon Black for USA.
This is what I did:
-click time finder, input values for ivs, I set a low frame (<3), got a seed (4C1736BD).
-right click the seed and select "GENERATE MORE TIMES", now what?
 
I've not started anything yet I'm really just trying to understand how it works this generation compared to last.

I'd probably be planning on going for either Victini or Zoroark first. Both I'd like to get timid, and I would be planning on using a synchronizer.

I'll check out my mac address in a sec.

So this gen the IVs and nature do not work off the same seed as they did before?
 
Reaga said:
EDIT:
Max Frame: 2000
Min/Max Delay: 1600-6000
MAC Address: (last 6 digits): a80ee0

I'd put 31/_/31/31/31/31 Year: 2011.
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0FB53C24 - 31\30\30\31\31\31 (HP Ice 70) spread, frame 13, delay 11577
13A82B5F - 31\31\31\30\30\31 (HP Ground 70) spread, frame 22, delay 7284

Both are more way more useful spreads than flawless, because they get usable Hidden Powers (for either dragons or Heatran).

And like I said earlier, you should use a synchronizer to get the Victini with the right nature.

alih92 said:
What are you trying to capture\hatch? Please specify whether you are attempting to breed a shiny Pokémon, breed IVs onto a Pokémon, or capture a Pokémon.

-CAPTURE A WILD POKEMON IN A GRASS PATCH WITH DECENT IVs

What is your target seed and frame? What is the delay of that seed? What is the MAC address of the DS you are using?
-IDK WHAT THESE ARE, THE GUIDE DOES NOT EXPLAIN WHAT THESE ARE
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It explains the MAC address. As for the seed stuff, it assumes you are familiar with 4th gen RNGing. If you are not (and it looks like it), you should do so. Or you can wait a week or two for a much better guide to show up.
 
I searched and found perfect spreads on frame 1, 28, 30, and 31.

About frame 1(How sad, I know): After turning on the C-Gear, (brings me to frame 3), would the first pokemon I encounter's IVs be 31/31/31/31/X/Y? Or am I understanding this incorrectly :P

As for frame 28, I'll be using it for mainly breeding at the moment. To clarify...

Do 18 advancements: Withdraw 2 pokes from the PC inside the daycare, walk inside the daycare with 4 pokemon in my party for 128 steps.

Then use the PID seed checking codes (after turning the C-Gear back off to stop advancements)... What would be the best way to advance for that frame, and what is the equation to finding the advancements to reach that frame (Like IVs is Target frame - 10, PID is Target PID Frame - x; what's x)?
 
Wow, thanks. Much easier.

My normal approach is either perfect, or a lower version of whichever ATK stat I'm not using, but that top one sounds much better. thanks.

Now to clear up the process: 256 steps, and Timid Nature is on frame 17 so how many saves?

Once I have the ingame process down, it'll be all about the timing (and maybe some AR codes, I gotta find those for a US cartridge).

EDIT:Just noticed the part about the synchronizer, but I'd still like to know the formula for that just in case.
 
I really appologize for the constant asking about the nature saving, but finding a Timid Munna is going to suck. I went through 10 purlions to find the Munna I have, which has forewarn.
 
SQSR? I'm sorry, I'm not enough of a regular here to know that term. But it would be quicker.

Ok, nvm I found out myself about SQSR. Gonna ask, and try this out. Thanks for practically holding my hand though ^_^
 
Right guys my DS MAC ADDRESS last six digits = 80-C8-FC

So I'm using the time finder function of rng reporter 9 now to find some seeds now. I'll be transferring a timid sync mew over from HG/SS to help with this. I'm going to try for Victini when I first try this.

So to find out if I hit the right seed, I need to catch a pokémon this time and check it's IVs match the IVs in the seed). Is this even possible when going for Victini? It looks to be in a house where there are no wild pokémon..???

Also is it still ok to use pikatimer or i it recommended to use a different timer for BW?
 
TornadoShaunUK said:
So to find out if I hit the right seed, I need to catch a pokémon this time and check it's IVs match the IVs in the seed). Is this even possible when going for Victini? It looks to be in a house where there are no wild pokémon..???
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You can practice your calibrations on regular wild Pokemon first, with Sweet Scent. Once you get your timing down then you can go for Victini.

Princess of Johto said:
Would trying to RNG on the Driftveil Draawbridge change anything when you try to RNG (C-Gear seed)? Or would you do the regular procedure - Hit your target time/delay, advance your frame, catch the pokemon.
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The issue with the drawbridge is that you have to wander back and forth until a spot with a Swanna shows up. Every 128 steps the IVRNG advances by the number of Pokemon in your party, and you are bound to hit that 128 steps over and over in the process.

You could try and find a good spread on frame 3, but even if you did, you would have to turn on the C-Gear right when the shadow of a Swanna appeared, and you have to get there before it disappears.
 
OmegaDonut said:
You can practice your calibrations on regular wild Pokemon first, with Sweet Scent. Once you get your timing down then you can go for Victini.
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Right, I think I get it. So just keep altering your timer until you hit the right seed on a wild pokemon. Then keep the settings you have on your timer and go for Victini.

I'm assuming this time that there is a chance you could hit the right seed but get the wrong nature if nature and IVs are not linked in BW? (a bit like wonder card rng-ing in HG/SS)

I found a seed to go for which is E68CCFC2. HP Ice spread - frame 21.

So if I understand right, all wild/legendary pokemon in gen 5 are -3 from the frame indicated so my target will appear on frame 18? So when I'm confident to go for Victini after trying to hit the seed on some wild pokés, I can save in front of it, hit the seed - then save 17 times to advance the frame before starting the battle and catching Victini?

Is there a specific timer for 5th gen rng or is it ok to continue using pikatimer as before?
 
OmegaDonut said:
The thing about the roamers is that you can easily RNG shininess (but don't ask about that now) and flawless IVs, but not both at the same time. The roamer is regenerated at the end of your battle with the E4 champion. However, the IVRNG is advanced in battle at 120 frames\second. You would need to find a very high frame (the tens, maybe hundreds of thousands) and then end the battle with the champion at the precise moment to get the IVs you want.

Needless to say, it's not going to be easy for you to RNG Thundurus. (Although RNGing shininess will be easy for you, once we release the next RNG Reporter.)
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Thanks, well i say i released it into the wild, i actually saved it before the door, before the thundurus cut scene, is that before or after the IVs have been decided? Either way, is it worth me waiting for the next RNG reporter to be released, and for a better guide to be up, or have i ruined the chance of me RNGing thundurus easily forever. I am more than happy to wait for all this, but if i have no chance of RNGing it anyway, then i would like to continue on with my game rather than waiting for something that isn't going to work for me in this case.
 
tblakey89 said:
Thanks, well i say i released it into the wild, i actually saved it before the door, before the thundurus cut scene, is that before or after the IVs have been decided? Either way, is it worth me waiting for the next RNG reporter to be released, and for a better guide to be up, or have i ruined the chance of me RNGing thundurus easily forever. I am more than happy to wait for all this, but if i have no chance of RNGing it anyway, then i would like to continue on with my game rather than waiting for something that isn't going to work for me in this case.
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In that case, start searching for some good C-Gear seeds so you can get good IVs.

Though you might want to wait until non C-Gear seeds are supported. it's a lot easier to get the timing right that way, and it's probably something you want considering you have virtually no control over the nature.

@TornadoShaun: I hear a lot of good things about ZomgTimer (search around the forums).
 
I have a question about the KeyPress Combo for the Non C-Gear Seeds.

Would you hold down the button, or just press it at any point before the first Gamefreak (or whatever that first white screen says)? If you have to press it, does it matter how many times it's pressed?
 
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