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Disconnecting in Global Link matches

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In my opinion, it is OK to DC at certain conditions.

1. If the other playing is taking too long time to decide which move they are going to use.

2. If they are using Minimize/Double Team or 1KO Moves.

3. If their team is full of Latias, Ferrothorn, Rotom, Metagross and pokemons like that you'll name it. When you are using pokemon like Flareon and Azumarill. :x
Aka. When you know the game is being completely unfair.

4. If they have DC'd on you before when you were about to win.

5. If they are using an illegal move set.

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There was once, I faced like, a suicune, raikou and (the last pokemon I've forgot) in a rotation battle. I had the odds against me but the match turned out to be really fun and it was quite even. But in the end when I was winning the other person DC'd. It sucked, cause I wanted to save the vid.

This other time I played against a guy, I know I couldn't win so I forfeit. The next match I got paired up with him again. But I was winning this time and he quit. It sux. -.-

Also once I played against a guy using a Chansey. Which used minimize and just after the first minimize I wasn't able to land any attacks. Got so mad and annoyed so I quit. :x

I really don't like the aron + sturdy + focus sash + sand storm + endeavor combination.
Imo, it just isn't fun and is almost the same as those 1ko moves.
 
Bunny said:
In my opinion, it is OK to DC at certain conditions.

1. If the other playing is taking too long time to decide which move they are going to use.

Makes sense, but could be up for debate; in really tense situations, I've taken close to the full 2 minutes.

2. If they are using Minimize/Double Team or 1KO Moves.

Cheap: At times, yes.
Worthy of a disconnect: No, as it's not impossible to counter; I've won a match before because my Darmanitan hit it's flare blitz against a +6 Muk. As for OHKOs, I'd say it's only justified if they pull some of that Scarf-Gliscor-Guillotine-hitting-3-times-in-a-row crap, but even that's a stretch.

3. If their team is full of Latias, Ferrothorn, Rotom, Metagross and pokemons like that you'll name it. When you are using pokemon like Flareon and Azumarill. :x
Aka. When you know the game is being completely unfair.

This is completely incorrect. If you don't like being at a disadvantage, don't put yourself in that situation (I.E. a team of Delibird/Shedinja/Sunflora); not saying that you wouldn't be put in that situation even if you weren't using OU stuff, but the Pokes you listed are at the top of the charts for a reason.

4. If they have DC'd on you before when you were about to win.

Eye-for-an-eye attitude (although I am guilty of doing this before)

5. If they are using an illegal move set.

Justified.

I really don't like the aron + sturdy + focus sash + sand storm + endeavor combination.
Imo, it just isn't fun and is almost the same as those 1ko moves.

If it troubles you that much, just bring something to counter it...
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Not like I'm trying to smack down your opinions or anything, but I feel like most that isn't D/C worthy.
 
In my opinion, it is OK to DC at certain conditions.

1. If the other playing is taking too long time to decide which move they are going to use.

Yeah this I can see.

2. If they are using Minimize/Double Team or 1KO Moves.

Honestly, just deal with it. Though I could see a disconnect happening if you're having a really bad day and this is the only way you can cool it (as in, you couldnt overcome it at all in combination to having a bad day due to the haxes done on that match).

3. If their team is full of Latias, Ferrothorn, Rotom, Metagross and pokemons like that you'll name it. When you are using pokemon like Flareon and Azumarill. :x
Aka. When you know the game is being completely unfair.\

Well, this is your fault that you bring in weak Pokemon into an arena designated for those dominant Pokemon. Either accept the disadvantage or forfeit. There is nothing unfair at all

4. If they have DC'd on you before when you were about to win.

"Maybe"

5. If they are using an illegal move set.

As long as the illegal moveset could be obtained in game SOMEHOW (through a glitch. So this rules out the possibility of something like Relic Song Terrakion), and has passed the hack check, then no, don't disconnect. We don't know if these movesets are allowed by intent or (though more likely) laziness. In this forum I allowed the discussion of illegal but obtainable movesets solely because of this uncertainty. It is their responsibility to set boundaries of what can and can not be done in a Pokemon Battle
 
Perhaps in the case of whatever isn't sanctioned by Nintendo as a legitimate tactic, it is fine to D/C. For instance, I could see someone D/Cing because they are losing valuable time playing a slow (or absent) person, or because the person D/C'd on that someone previously; Nintendo doesn't promote or accept D/Cing and going absent/wasting time, so it's not unreasonable to D/C in these occasions. But because of what are perceived as "overpowered" pokemon? The GBU isn't Smogon, where a council can be had to decide if something is "too good." It is a metagame constructed of absolute, unaltered rules, and you are given over 600 pokemon to use. Not only is no strategy utterly uncounter-able in the GBU; above that, it isn't even right to call it unfair, because it's adhering to absolute rules. It's like (religious example coming, please don't take it too far) C.S. Lewis said about morality; he claimed all humans adhere to a common sense of "right" and "wrong" because right and wrong are made by God and not by clusters of people in different circumstances. The GBU has a ruleset made by an authority, and everyone who chooses to participate in it recognizes that ruleset and does not claim to be above the authority. We bow our heads willingly; if you don't like the way it works, play another metagame.
 
Hum. I've been thinking about it. After reading your comments.

I still think it is ok to DC if they get hax minimize luck. Like, I don't know how you managed to pull it off 133k, but I know that even after one minimize chansey, I wouldn't be able to hit anything with it. (With for example ice beam which has 100%).
And those 1ko moves somehow always hit me even with its crappy 30% acc. <.<
The game would be done after a couple of those.

However, I've found a way to counter the minimize evasion raising craps.

After thinking about what you said about people using ubers. I'll take back what I said.
Besides, it is actually possible using weaker pokemon and win against those. However, it would be a bit challenging and would need lots of luck.

BUT, AGREE that it is boring that most people have some kind of Tyrannitar/Garchomp Raindance/Ferrothorn and Latias/Latios. It is like 70%.
It is almost like facing the same team most of the time.
And since everyone wants to counter those, no one would bring err... pokemon of normal strength. And ending up everyone having the ous in their team. How fun would that be?

(I dunno about you. But most of my fav pokemons are like... Wigglytuff, Raichu n such... cutemons, which if I used, I'd lose for sure. :<)


Oh, I think you kinda misunderstood with me saying that it is ok to DC on someone who have DC on you before. I did not mean DC during the match.
What I was saying that I would DC right when I see I've been matched up with him/her again. Cause the game wouldn't be worth playing anyways.

Maybe the last point could be discussed about. I don't know cause I haven't tested.
But if you could use an illegal move set like, Azumarill with belly drum and aqua jet. Is it possible to enter with an... let's say Azumarill with Thunder punch?
Cause if the system doesn't check the move sets... people could just start abusing it.

Besides, no matter if the illegal check works or not, it is still cheating. cause you'd obviously cannot get an Azumarill with belly drum and aqua jet without cheating.
 
lol this all sounds pretty bad... i only played on GBU like 20 times or so when the game was still only released in japan and i'd only gotten DC'd like twice but this all sounds incredibly annoying and makes me reconsider if i should even bother playing in GBU again....
 
I still think it is ok to DC if they get hax minimize luck. Like, I don't know how you managed to pull it off 133k, but I know that even after one minimize chansey, I wouldn't be able to hit anything with it. (With for example ice beam which has 100%).
And those 1ko moves somehow always hit me even with its crappy 30% acc. <.<
The game would be done after a couple of those.
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I haven't played a singles match yet, so perhaps it is much more threatening and annoying there. My whole team was recently steamrolled by a single superevasive Muk in Doubles, but that's a rare occurence to say the least. I was impressed rather than aggravated at it, though, and even while I hate adding to my lose-count I couldn't D/C on someone who had clearly thought his strategy through.

lol this all sounds pretty bad... i only played on GBU like 20 times or so when the game was still only released in japan and i'd only gotten DC'd like twice but this all sounds incredibly annoying and makes me reconsider if i should even bother playing in GBU again....
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The GBU is so much fun that it isn't worth passing it by because of D/Cers. Besides, you get more indifferent to it the higher the score you get; the D/Cs become progressively smaller drops in the water. If it really gets to bothering you when you start playing again, keep a count every day of how many D/C's have happened to you. That way, it feels like your potential (but unrealized) wins still matter somehow.
 
Hi people,
It is 2 weeks already and there is no reply from TPCi.

I have created a petition in case the humans in the company choose to ignore the matter.
http://www.petitiononline.com/pkmngbu/petition.html

GBU is really bad now. I can get match up againset MYSELF as there is NO ONE IN GBU Ratings!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOc36Q3x7PQ
I know there is a limited about things that we can do, but if there are many people against it, I am sure TPC or TPCi will do something about it.
 
btw, when connecting to WIFI, may it be free or ratings, here is a hack check. Does illegal movesets are allowed?
Severe case:
Eevee that knows Transform.
Hard-to-detect case:
Azumarill that knows Belly Drum and Aqua Jet
 
soon said:
btw, when connecting to WIFI, may it be free or ratings, here is a hack check. Does illegal movesets are allowed?
Severe case:
Eevee that knows Transform.
Hard-to-detect case:
Azumarill that knows Belly Drum and Aqua Jet
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I know the first is right out. The checker also checks for moves that should match up with the location met--pokemon with egg moves that weren't hatched from eggs will not be allowed in.

However, I'm not so sure about the second. I've heard on GameFAQs that someone say a bellyjet azumarill online, but I haven't seen it myself.
 
GBU allows Belly Drum + Aqua Jet Azumarill. One of the battle videos on the top 100 had it a little while back
 
AuraSphere said:
Oh why must Nintendo pair me up with these Americans? They really should pair people up based on their Rankings/Wins.
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I think they do that in rating mode.

And yes, you can have any combination of egg moves. I vividly remember losing to a Belly Drum-Aqua Jet Azumarril.
 
I got someone to disconnect on me for the first time.

An American mono-Poison team. I didn't even really sweep him, just beat him. Although I should have expected as much from Pin Missile Drapion and Anticipation Toxicroak.
 
I was having this great battle with someone and he just disconnected cause i was beating him.

I only disconnect when they have like a double team/minimize/OHKO move going on
 
Arg, so many disconnects this morning! My rating dropped even though I only lost a few games but won a whole lot more if the other side didn't disconnect.
 
I surprisingly haven't had any D/C's today. Today has actually been a pretty good day for battling, as I've had about 8-10 matches (most) of which involved little to no hax (Damn you Volcarona and your Flame Body...). I feel like I have better luck in finding good matches while I'm watching Mythbusters, as I am/was/will be doing.
 
I kinda quit random wifi after the first week of trying it after I realized that people will merely D.C on me when I win, it happens rather to often that I didn't even bother with ranked mode. Maybe next I will give it a try.
 
Today I played a ranked battle, and when I saw the location and name of my opponent, I recognized them from this site. That was kinda cool.

Then they D/C'd before my win could count. That was annoying.
 
Last night there were so many good Japanese players playing triple battle. My rating dropped from 1875 to 1700... I wanted to disconnect so badly :( But then I realized that my team seemed to do well because all I had been playing are against teams that were not designed for triple battle, so I let my rating slide 175 points. My triple battle team sucks :(
 
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