Official NBA 2010-11 Season Thread

Dunno why everyone's bashing Rose so much, don't remember people complaining about him much in the past 2 playoff series. Guy's still a kid, give him time he'll likely have plenty of rings by retirement age assuming the Bulls improve.

Otherwise, Heat > Mavericks, though I'm betting the Mavs will play up the whole "revenge" angle despite the fact Dirk is probably the only player on the Mavs team left from that final lol.
 
Shinryu said:
Dunno why everyone's bashing Rose so much, don't remember people complaining about him much in the past 2 playoff series. Guy's still a kid, give him time he'll likely have plenty of rings by retirement age assuming the Bulls improve.

Otherwise, Heat > Mavericks, though I'm betting the Mavs will play up the whole "revenge" angle despite the fact Dirk is probably the only player on the Mavs team left from that final lol.
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Dirk & Terry (Wade & Haslem for the Heat)
 
Almost no team in any sport has the trauma the Mavericks had from a title loss (and in this case a complete fucking robbery referee fuckup game after game). Revenge? If we beat the Heat it is like the Bills beating an NFC East team for a Super Bowl...it definitely is not going to be a petty series for us.

Who wants an avatar or signature bet?
 
darkie said:
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That is the GREATEST picture ever...
 
oh me oh my

future of the league doesn't look too bright tbh. The mavs can delay the heat dynasty, but that's the most they can do.
 
popemobile said:
Bulls will pick up Howard in the off-season and win the next ten championships, no worries
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Lol nice try, I'll make a signature bet that if he moves that it'll be to the Lakers (yes I'm aware you were joking lol)

Ahem to everyone talking about the potential Heat dynasty, fear not! The Thunder haven't even gotten close to their peak yet! When they do I think they'll definitely be capable of being consistently better then Miami - lack of Westbrook brain farts permitting!
 
Stallion said:
Lol nice try, I'll make a signature bet that if he moves that it'll be to the Lakers (yes I'm aware you were joking lol)

Ahem to everyone talking about the potential Heat dynasty, fear not! The Thunder haven't even gotten close to their peak yet! When they do I think they'll definitely be capable of being consistently better then Miami - lack of Westbrook brain farts permitting!
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Yeah I agree. People forget that the Thunder are still one of the youngest teams in the NBA. Once the Mavs get old, they will move in for the kill! Miami can only hold them off for so long.
 
I was watching the first regular season game and this is what I've noticed so far:


  • If they had Butler, I'd take Mavs with the slight edge. He's another line of defense against LeBron and Wade and some more athleticism.
  • Chandler has mad rebounding skills and will probably do the same things Noah did but in terms of rolling to the basket, he's better (while Noah's a better passer). Haslem wasn't in this game, though. Overall, Chandler needs to be on the floor as much as possible, because Haywood is not a good high pick and roll defender.
  • You know, I've always wondered why Dirk never showed too many slam dunk alley-oops, and now I've realized that he doesn't have the athleticism to spin off somebody and dunk it in. I'm convinced that Heat's best way of defending Dirk is fronting him and using their speed and athleticism to make the pass tough and the trap quick.


Heat ran a very different line-up than they do today and were on a pretty long stretch of back-to-backs. Overall, not much I can out of that. Heat's half-court defense will need to be avoided as much as possible still, though. They had a lot of great stuff going on when the Mavs weren't running.
 
Choke-ago and Chokelahoma City, I'm telling you.

I fell asleep when the Bulls were up by 10 with three minutes left in the game...first thing I hear when I wake up is "Miami Heat, the Eastern Conference champions!" Made me chuckle a bit.
 
I've watched the Mavs/Heat 2006 series and I honestly can't find much wrong with it. I wonder if it's one of those Lakers/Celtics 2008 things? I didn't find anything wrong with that series either (he was just a laker apologetic.. that guy with the video on youtube)
 

Neither the Heat nor the Mavs score a lot of points in the paint. Just 37 percent of Miami's points and just 35 percent of Dallas' points have been scored in the paint. Those are the fifth-lowest and second-lowest ratios of the postseason respectively.


Both teams have managed to score in other ways, obviously. The Heat have scored 25 percent of their points at the free throw line, the second highest rate of the postseason. And the Mavs have scored 27 percent of their points from 3-point range, also the second-highest rate of the postseason.


3 point shooting vs free throw attempts and makes.


Dallas has been the best offensive team in clutch situations, scoring an estimated 148 points per 100 possessions. Miami has been the best defensive team in clutch situations, allowing just 69 points per 100 possessions.


Offense vs defense once again.

There was at least one interesting set of head-to-head numbers from the regular season: Wade vs. Stevenson. Wade took only three shots in 30 minutes with Stevenson on the floor, as opposed to 30 shots in 50 minutes with Stevenson on the bench.

What's even more fascinating is that James was just 1-for-9 in Stevenson's 30 minutes. With Stevenson on the floor, 34 of Miami's 46 shots were taken by Arroyo (3-for-9), Bosh (9-for-17) and Ilgauskas (3-for-8).


Please play, Butler. Please.


http://www.nba.com/2011/news/featur...ube-finals-preview/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1




Kidd was the primary guy on Wade, and he struggled to keep up with Flash both off the dribble and in the post. Stevenson figures to at least split the assignment with Kidd this time around. The Mavs wanted no part of Terry on Wade, and the more the James/Wade duo plays, the trickier it becomes for Carlisle to split minutes among the Terry/Barea/Stojakovic group — or to play two of those three at the same time. That will hurt the Mavs’ spacing on offense.


Very important not to pick up cheap fouls.. speaking of cheap fouls:


This is going to be a huge factor. The Mavs were much better this season on both ends with Chandler in the lineup, and though Brendan Haywood has stepped up nicely in the postseason, he just doesn’t have the mobility to keep up with guys like Haslem or Bosh, and he’ll struggle to keep Wade and James in front of him on pick-and-rolls.




Bosh should get a lot of room to work in this series. Tyson Chandler got the Bosh assignment almost exclusively in the regular season, and the Heat ran a ton of Bosh-centric pick-and-rolls to get Chandler moving. The pick-and-pop jumper was there whenever Bosh wanted it. Having him guard Bosh also takes Chandler away from the rim, and we saw against the Thunder how vulnerable the Dallas defense can be when Dirk Nowitzki is left as the last man standing.
There probably isn’t a good solution here for Carlisle. Having Nowitzki guard Bosh is troublesome on many levels, and the Bosh/Udonis Haslem front-line combination, seeing more minutes as the playoffs go on, gives Miami two jump-shooting big men who can stretch the floor. Chandler is just going to have to be super-active on defense.

http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2011/05/27/finals-preview-when-miami-has-the-ball/

Truly hard to predict what's most likely between these two teams due to their styles and the abundance of x-factors (also the lack of regular season meetings and line-up changes).

With all that said, can't help but favor Miami with HCA alone (yes, I used a history stat!)
 
I'm officially on the Heat Bandwagon for the rest of this season. Next year with a new CBA and stuff, but for now, go Heat.

Also, nice analysis DerrickRose.
 
K, Ive been gone from this thread for just a bit and I see bullshit is cluttered in here.

Lets start:

You guys are really downplaying Derrick Rose? Derrick Rose did nothing wrong in the series. Give credit to the Heat. They found out how to beat Chicago and they used a simple formula... let rose do watever for 3 quarters, then stick 6'8, 260 lbs Lebron James on him in the 4th quarter. It worked 3 straight times. If you were watching they did it every game. This is not a knock on Rose at all!!! If anything, give some credit to LeBron.

For those of you saying Rondo is better than Rose, you need your fucking eyes checked. Yes, Rose isn't a PURE point guard and more of a combo guard, but he is much better than Rondo. Rondo is actally fucking garbage in my opinion and is just a product of having THREE hall-of-famers to pass the ball to (one of the best power forwards, the best Celtic stat-wise of all time Paul Pierce, and the NBA's all time 3 point King Ray allen). I can think of the following point guards that are all better than Rondo RIGHT NOW:

CP3
Deron
Rose
Nash
Tony Parker
Westbrook (yes, he is)
Stephen Curry

Take Rondo off the Celtics and see how garbage his stats become. I'm NEVER calling a point guard with a 59% FT percentage to lead my team personally.

Also, I'm not going to sit up here and say the Heat will for sure win this title or that they even deserve this title having put themselves into the finals. However, I will give LeBron the credit that is due. He is reaching his peak and right now is the best player in the league. I am an avid Kobe Bryant fan and have no problems admitting this. In Kobe's defense, his career decline has started and hes been playing hurt for 3 stragiht years now, but Kobe in his prime is still the best in this era.

Also, Scottie Pippen saying Lebron James is better than Michael Jordan is sending the sports world for a loop. And while I don't personally agree, it isn't THAT farfetched of a statement, especially when LeBron finally starts adding titles and finals MVPs to his resume. Statistically, LeBron is just as good as Michael Jordan, not even accounting the fact that the league now has 20% fewer possessions than Jordan's era did (aka, multiply all of LeBron's stats by 1.2 for fair comparison). LeBron is finally adding the defensive aspect to his game, and I will say LeBron is a better athlete and better defender than Michael Jordan was (where MJ is clearly the better scorer).

As for predictions, I'd love to pick the Mavs because Dirk and Jason Kidd REALLY deserve a title. I'm actually unsure about this series, I do anticipate 6 or 7 games though, with my rooting clearly going for Dallas.

Oh yeah, Lakers getting Dwight Howard is NOT going to happen so calm that shit down. The Laker nucleus will stay the same, so expect to see Kobe, Bynum, Fisher, and Gasol return for sure. The players with some leeway for trades are most likely Artest, Odom, Shannon Brown, and Steve Blake. I read an interesting article saying the best thing for the Lakers is to send Odom and Arest in a package deal to Denver for PG Ty Lawson and SF Wilson Chandler, which adds PG help and athleticism. Also, JR Smith is on the market this summer, so look to see teams making a move on him (Lakers would be a prime candidate for him as well). Don't count LA out, they still have a championship caliber team. The only things they need to address are PG play and adding a 3PT shooter for the bench.

And while Mike Brown isn't a Phil Jackson, expect him to stress defense and see the lakers end up right back at the top of the west again next season
 
shady6121 said:
^ lol, but seriously what do you guys think? Anabolic steroids increase bulk somewhat, but they mostly increase speed, performance etc.
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More muscle = less speed, not more.... But steroids in general dont really help much in basketball, you lose your shot if you put on a ton of muscle and it would really only help if you're a big man and play down low
 
shady6121 said:
^ Lebron James wasn't a good perimeter shooter earlier in his career though, he simply used his mass to get the ball inside the basket via layups and dunks, there are a lot of ways to make steroids undetectable, look at how mark mcguire never tested positive for steroids etc.
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So are you trying to say he is or is not on steroids...? Considering he IS a good jump shooter now...

He's also been an athletic freak pretty much his entire life. He was 6 feet tall and able to palm the ball in middle school, he obviously wasn't always as bulky as he is now, but he was considerably stronger than even other top high school prospects. I really doubt he does steroids, especially considering his career arch, basketball in general, and his greatly underestimated work ethic.
 
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