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Ancien Régime said:
rate my dw deck:

3x snow
3x grapha
3x broww
3x beiige
1x goldd
1x silvaa
1x tour guide
1x sangan

Total: 17

Thinking of dropping the goldd/silvaa for Tour Guide, but then, they give more Virus fodder, and I'd prefer to draw Tour Guide midgame to go into Tour Guide/Sangan/recover RFGed monster plays.

Spells

3x Dealings
3x Gate
2x Lightning
2x Duality
1x Reborn
1x Trunade

Total: 12

Trying Duality in DW, thinking of -1 Duality for +1 Lightning.

Traps:

2x Warning
2x EEV
2x Compulsory
1x DDV
1x Judgement
1x Dustshoot
1x Mind Crush
1x Mirror Force
1x Dimensional Prison


Total: 11

These traps are geared towards devastating my opponents hand and their ability to use their backrow to stop my plays.

I know Dragged Down promotes overextension, but it also allows me to know what's in my opponent's hand, especially if I didn't get Dustshoot off.
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dont main dealings, you cant play it until you can confirm they aren't running dark world and if they are running dark world you can never play it. cut dualities for more tour guides. its the best card in this deck. run a third lightning. run skill drains over mirror force and prison. drain isnt very good against dw either but it can still put in work, all it takes is one key negate on a tour guide/raven to really stymy their turn

you need raven too, instant wyvern/highlander with beige is fantastic, and it gives you weird tech synchro options like ragin.
 
Right now i been playing on YVD using a Absolute Zero deck with Ice barrier tech. Wor very very well for field control and can somp black wings short game.
 
in terms of other decks i've been screwing around with, here's hero plants:

Card Count: 40
Monsters: 21
3 Elemental Hero Neos Alius
2 Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter
2 Lonefire Blossom
2 Junk Synchron
2 Doppelwarrior
1 Debris Dragon
1 Elemental Hero Ice Edge
1 Elemental Hero Stratos
1 Blackwing - Zephyrus the Elite
1 Plaguespreader Zombie
1 Spore
1 Glow-Up Bulb
1 Synchro Fusionist
1 Dandylion
1 Sangan

Spells: 13
3 Miracle Fusion
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Super Polymerization
1 Future Fusion
1 Giant Trunade
1 Dark Hole
1 Foolish Burial
1 Reinforcement of the Army
1 One for One
1 Monster Reborn

Traps: 6
2 Solemn Warning
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Call of the Haunted
1 Mirror Force

Extra: 15
1 Elemental Hero Absolute Zero
1 Elemental Hero Gaia
1 Elemental Hero Great Tornado
1 Elemental Hero The Shining
1 Elemental Hero Escuridao
1 Elemental Hero Nova Master
2 T.G. Hyper Librarian
2 Formula Synchron
1 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Shooting Quasar Dragon

I'm still really iffy on certain deck choices, like Quasar with no Shooting Star (THERE IS NO ROOM AARRGGHHH). Lack of Duality is worrying. Viability of Ice Edge is questionable but it gives me Absolute Zero. 2 Debris? Maybe. Is Synchro Fusionist too situational? Is Nova Master really necessary in the extra?

This is another deck inspired by Bahamut84 and DuelingDays. The basic combo is Future Fusion, revealing Escuridao, pitching an E-Hero and Zephyrus. Zephyrus bounces Future Fusion, and send it again, sending whatever you want. Consider Synchro Fusionist if you have Junk Synchron in hand. Synchro for big stuff, fetch Miracle Fusion, get big E-Hero onto the field. Or pitch Doppelwarrior to start some big plays with Junk. Or pitch Glow-Up/Spore to start more combos.

The problem is that the deck is quite weak to Necrovalley in the field so I REALLY need to fit some MSTs in here. I would also LOVE to be able to put Pot of Avarice in. I just don't know what to take out, because the deck has so much going on. I'm thinking maybe a Doppel.
 
Neonian since youre an admin or something you should REALLY consider getting more mods in that simulator, its incredible how fucking shitty the moderation team is.

10 mods online for 4000 users AND all of them afk, thats even worse than PO...
 
LizardMan said:
I almost want to make a Hand Control deck for fun, with double Reaper and triple Don Zaloog, Mystic Tomato, maybe some dark support.

The main issue with that would be it may be a bit too slow, and large backrows will ruin the deck. Dark World would also auto win against it.

Its just that if they attack into Don Zaloog turn one and lose a card, then I summon a second Don Zaloog and make them discard two.. it just feels really hot.
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http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Genex_Ally_Crusher
 
I agree with Reyscarface. There is a crapload of bad users on Dueling Network, and it would really help to have mods to help solve disputes.

Oh, Reborn Tengu would really hurt the hand control deck. Just realized that, haha. That being said, I am probably going to run a playset of my own Tengu.
 
lol thirded. the mods are completely useless. some of them don't even know how to properly speak english and half the time they're all afk or "busy" even though they're fucking talking in the main chat, what a joke.
 
I contacted all 10 mods for a troll before, because he was saying I couldnt use Bottomless Trap Hole on his Gyzarus after he Solemn Judgmented my Solemn Warning. However, the troll was wrong because there was two windows of opportunity for me to respond to the Gyzarus play due to the different spell speeds.

So basically it was me arguing with him for 5 minutes because none of the mods cared, or did anything.
 
Don't worry guys, I'm going to totally apply to be a mod and use my shoddybattle experience as reference. ;)
 
So look what my friend set me up with last night:
3 Red Gadget
3 Yellow Gadget
3 Green Gadget
1 Cyber Dragon
2 Scarp Recycler
1 Summoner Monk
2 Machina Gearframe
2 Machina Fortress
1 Genex Ally Birdman
1 Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind

1 Mind Control
1 Giant Trunade
1 Dark Hole
1 Book of Moon
1 Monster Reborn
2 MST

2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Dust Tornado
1 Ultimate Offering
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Seven Tools of The Bandit
1 Royal Oppression
1 Mirror Force
1 Trap Stun
1 Starlight Road
1 Compulsory Evacuation Device
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Magic Cylinder

Extra:
3 Number 39: Utopia
3 Steelswarm Roach
2 Grenosaurus
1 Stardust Dragon
1 Blackwing Armor Master


Any suggestions? Bear in mind that my budget is stupidly tight so don't go saying "Solemn Warning" or "Pot of Duality".
 
gadgets are semi limited and oyu owuldnt wanna run three even if u could.
-1 of each
+1 glow up bulb
+1 Ryko
+1 Debris Dragon

or -3 gadgets
+3 reborn tengu

-1 steelsworn roach
+1 Scrap dragon (gives a great option for control / win plus can stop stall decks over and over.)


-1 number 4
+1 colossal fighter
+1 black rose dragon (Needed i the deck I know you budget is tight but these things are $8.50 for standard price. if I find a spare I might send ya one.

-1starlight road
+1 Limiter removal (gives u a alternate win condition. Plus u can limit swing then make your XYZ)
 
Shiki1335 said:
gadgets are semi limited and oyu owuldnt wanna run three even if u could.
-1 of each
+1 glow up bulb
+1 Ryko
+1 Debris Dragon

or -3 gadgets
+3 reborn tengu

-1 steelsworn roach
+1 Scrap dragon (gives a great option for control / win plus can stop stall decks over and over.)


-1 number 4
+1 colossal fighter
+1 black rose dragon (Needed i the deck I know you budget is tight but these things are $8.50 for standard price. if I find a spare I might send ya one.

-1starlight road
+1 Limiter removal (gives u a alternate win condition. Plus u can limit swing then make your XYZ)
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haha what? the gadgets haven't been semi'd in years... and yes you do want to run three of each, especially for a deck with xyz.

also, he said this was a budget list, and you still suggested tengu, scrap dragon, glow-up bulb, and black rose (which is probably about $15 for the tin one...)

zy, here are my budget suggestions for the deck:

-2 scrap recycler
+1 machina gearframe
+1 machina fortress

i've played with recycler before in machina gadgets and he is always very underwhelming

-1 magic cylinder
-1 starlight road
+2 ultimate offering

taking out two traps that are underwhelming right now to give you a way to swarm with your gadgets and otk

-1 genex ally birdman
-1 trap stun
+2 dimensional prison

prisons are somewhat expensive, but if you're getting your cards from the machina structure deck, then you get prison anyway. i also wouldn't play birdman with so few synchros

additionally, steelswarm roach is going for like $80 right now, so it might be tough to get for this deck
 
I already have two Roaches from the sneak peek because I am: a boss.

Also I was thinking Trap Stun was kinda iffy. I do like Scrap Recycler though, because he allows for Machina Fortress shenanigans.

For record, I already have the above 50 cards already. I was just looking for changes..

So far I'm thinking:
-1 Genex
-1 Trap Stun
-1 Magic Cylinder
+1 Ultimate Offering
+1 Dimensional Prison
+1 Machina Fortress


If I'm honest, the Gearframe is kind of underwhelming for me, because all it really does is serve as junk to discard along with a Gadget to pull Fortress from the grave.
 
reyscarface said:
Neonian since youre an admin or something you should REALLY consider getting more mods in that simulator, its incredible how fucking shitty the moderation team is.

10 mods online for 4000 users AND all of them afk, thats even worse than PO...
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To be honest, about 40% of the admins we hire turn out to be complete trash and are fired within a week, and the new (very very harsh) admin rules will hopefully prevent the whole afk admin thing.
 
Luxpluff91 said:
Guys, do you think Duality is helpful/viable on a (pure) Dragunity deck or should I just stick to Consonance?
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I think Pot of Duality is very helpful in Dragunity. I would run some combo of Consonance and Duality. Maybe 1 Duality, and 2 Consonance.

I also will give you my thoughts on the deck later Zystral. :)
 
Speaking of Pot of Duality, I've looked up Pot of Avarice and seen that it isn't that great. But is there any way of using it decently to some extent? Just wanted some new/recent opinions from here.
 
Aerodactyl Legend said:
Speaking of Pot of Duality, I've looked up Pot of Avarice and seen that it isn't that great. But is there any way of using it decently to some extent? Just wanted some new/recent opinions from here.
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Pot of Avarice is extremely good in the right deck. Not only can you re-use your engine and get more pluses off it, you get to draw two as well.

I like it in any deck which can pile the graveyard relatively quick, and doesn't need it as much as a resource. You would be suprised how easy it can be to activate in the right deck.

Sure it can screw over your topdecks and thicken the deck, but you can send back synchros too, and it has excellent synergy with Gadgets which run a low monster count + thin a lot either way. The card also breaks Tengu alot more than intended too.
 
Reborn Tengu current deck I use for shits and gigs.

3|Ha04|Genex Ally Birdman
1|Dlg1|Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
1|Jump|Dandylion
3|Pgd|Gravekeeper's Spy
1|Abpf|Gravekeeper's Descendant
3|Lodt|Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter
3|Exvc|Reborn Tengu
1|Stbl|Glow-Up Bulb
1|Ioc|Chaos Sorcerer
2|Crms|Debris Dragon
2|5ds1|Junk Synchron
2|Drev|Effect Veiler
1|Lodt|Lyla, Lightsworn Sorceress
1|Dp03|Card Trooper
1|Csoc|Plaguespreader Zombie
2|Sd10|Pot of Avarice
1|Wc5|Mind Control
1|Sye|Dark Hole
3|Drev|Pot of Duality
2|Mrl|Mystical Space Typhoon
1|Pgd|Book of Moon
1|Rgbt|One For One
1|Sdy|Monster Reborn
2|Drev|Solemn Warning
1|Cp01|Solemn Judgment
1|Csoc|Iron Chain Dragon
1|Drev|Scrap Dragon
1|Drev|Scrap Archfiend
2|Crms|Arcanite Magician
2|Ha04|Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1|Dpct|Frozen Fitzgerald
2|Csoc|Black Rose Dragon
1|Ha01|Ally of Justice Catastor
2|Tdgs|Stardust Dragon
1|Ha01|Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1|Stbl|Formula Synchron
 
Yeah Avarice is great for anything which piles up the grave quickly without benefiting from it. And the 2 card draw is actually amazing.
I run it in Karakuris, and I use to run it in frogs when Substitoad was still allowed...
 
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