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Hi everyone, I need some little help on emerald RNG abuse.
Can anyone please tell me the difference between the breeding methods? ^^;
You know, the difference between splits, not splits, and alternate.
Thanks in advance.
 
Ok... So this is so amazing that this works so well. I've mostly used this just for some shiny eggs, and recently acctually tried to get IV's I wanted on an egg and after about a dozen resets hit the spread I was looking for.

Well, I am currently trying to snag a Shiny Giratina from the Distortion world. My goal was: Shiny, and a lower number of journal flips was more important than stats. I wanted a decent Hidden Power Fire if possible.

I found a spread that fit that bill. Took me forever to hit the right seed [verified with coin flips]. However, when I did my journal flips the Giratina I encountered was not shiny. I used my masterball to catch it, then checked it's stats. It was an otherwise exact match for the seed I thought I was looking for.

My question... Is this a fluke? Does it happen often? Do I need to look for a different seed I can hit? I spent hours on the resetting before I hit the spread once, I don't want to do this again if it's not going to result in my shiny Giratina. Any help would be much, Much appreciated...

Here goes some details:
Trainer: Ringo
ID:18496
SID: 26653

Seed I was aiming for is: 2d1402b7

I used April 8, 2009 from the date range at 20:00.13 delay is 686

The frame I was trying to hit was 199. since it was distortion world I subtracted 23 as I would need to bring the journal up then close it after the page flips. This meant 88 flips to hit the frame I needed.

The actual stats on that frame were:
9 / 16 / 15 / 6 / 27 / 30 -- Hidden Power Fire 69

Please if anyone can offer help or advice I would be so greatful.

--Ringo
So you got the right spread, but it wasn't shiny? Are you sure your ID/SID combo allows for that spread to be shiny?

EDIT: Shii's the best, I should stop trying to help in 5 AM >.>
 
So you got the right spread, but it wasn't shiny? Are you sure your ID/SID combo allows for that spread to be shiny?

I'm still very new to RNG abuse so I'm not 100% confident with what I'm doing which is why I gave every detail I could. This is this first legendary I've tried to RNG abuse.

What I did was use the time finder and searched for shiny spreads only. I put in a range of delays from 630 which was the lowest delay i could hit during calibration while mashing A really fast, with 730 being my maximum delay. As I wanted to keep journal flips low I set maximum frame to 500. I did not put in any IV values in my search criteria as I wasn't trying to be picky. I went through the list until I found one I liked the hidden power on and that one looked awsome to me.

Any suggestions ??? Is there anything else I need to be doing I may have missed???
 
If you hit your spread and it has right IVs and non-shiny, its because you have entered wrong ID/SID. You should check again, if you have hatched shiny eggs before.
 
Ok... So this is so amazing that this works so well. I've mostly used this just for some shiny eggs, and recently acctually tried to get IV's I wanted on an egg and after about a dozen resets hit the spread I was looking for.

Well, I am currently trying to snag a Shiny Giratina from the Distortion world. My goal was: Shiny, and a lower number of journal flips was more important than stats. I wanted a decent Hidden Power Fire if possible.

I found a spread that fit that bill. Took me forever to hit the right seed [verified with coin flips]. However, when I did my journal flips the Giratina I encountered was not shiny. I used my masterball to catch it, then checked it's stats. It was an otherwise exact match for the seed I thought I was looking for.

My question... Is this a fluke? Does it happen often? Do I need to look for a different seed I can hit? I spent hours on the resetting before I hit the spread once, I don't want to do this again if it's not going to result in my shiny Giratina. Any help would be much, Much appreciated...

Here goes some details:
Trainer: Ringo
ID:18496
SID: 26653

Seed I was aiming for is: 2d1402b7

I used April 8, 2009 from the date range at 20:00.13 delay is 686

The frame I was trying to hit was 199. since it was distortion world I subtracted 23 as I would need to bring the journal up then close it after the page flips. This meant 88 flips to hit the frame I needed.

The actual stats on that frame were:
9 / 16 / 15 / 6 / 27 / 30 -- Hidden Power Fire 69

Please if anyone can offer help or advice I would be so greatful.

--Ringo
From the looks of it, I don't think you get this spread. I double-checked to make sure in PokeRNG. Here's the results:

Results.png

However, I did another search and I found a spread that's slightly more awesome than the one you picked, and with a great nature too!

Results2-1.png

It's the one highlighted.

Well, I hope this helps. :p

EDIT: I also recommend that you use PokeRNG to find wild capture spreads. It's amazing AND quick. I've always used it. :D
 
Does the Manaphy Egg behaves as the other wondercard pokemon ( RNG fixes IVs but not natures) or as a gift pokemon (RNG fixes nature AND IVs)?

Edit: *facepalms herself* in HGSS
 
Does the Manaphy Egg behaves as the other wondercard pokemon ( RNG fixes IVs but not natures) or as a gift pokemon (RNG fixes nature AND IVs)?

Edit: *facepalms herself* in HGSS

Manaphy is just like a Method 1 Pokemon, so yes, the RNG fixes the nature and IVs.

If you're going for shiny, make sure you transfer it to the game where you don't have the shiny spread and RNG it there. Then transfer it to the file where you have the shiny spread and hatch it there and it will be shiny (not when it hatches, but when you look at the summary it's shiny)! :)

Btw it's the same in HGSS and DPPt. If you don't care about shiny, then it doesn't matter where you RNG it :)
 
Does the Manaphy Egg behaves as the other wondercard pokemon ( RNG fixes IVs but not natures) or as a gift pokemon (RNG fixes nature AND IVs)?

Edit: *facepalms herself* in HGSS

Uh, Manaphy egg is method 1, so its PID and IVs are linked. If that's what you were asking. :p

ninja'd by PoJ, lols
 
Manaphy is just like a Method 1 Pokemon, so yes, the RNG fixes the nature and IVs.

If you're going for shiny, make sure you transfer it to the game where you don't have the shiny spread and RNG it there. Then transfer it to the file where you have the shiny spread and hatch it there and it will be shiny (not when it hatches, but when you look at the summary it's shiny)! :)

Btw it's the same in HGSS and DPPt. If you don't care about shiny, then it doesn't matter where you RNG it :)

Oh, thankgod it's just like another gift egg! BW has me spoiled rooten, I used to hit any-delay seed on the first try now it takes some doing... Knowing I won't have to do it over and over and over again is a relief!

I already have a platinum I RNG an ID for top 5 timid/bold shiny spread. ^^

EDIT: Oh, yeah, sorry, i forgot this: thanks for the help! ^^
 
If you hit your spread and it has right IVs and non-shiny, its because you have entered wrong ID/SID. You should check again, if you have hatched shiny eggs before.

You are all so helpful that I feel embarrassed having posted in the first place... but if I hadn't heard to double check my ID/SID I wouldn't have done just that.

I do all my egg breeding on my Diamond, and that is the ID/SID combo I listed here [and what I was using in RNG reporter]. I had completly forgotten that little step [for what it's worth my Platinum ID/SID combo is ID: 32996 / SID 48055].

After double checking and realizing what I did I found an even better spread than the one I was originally trying to hit [with Fire 70] which I was able to hit after about a dozen tries. It had a very low frame so I only had to do 64 journal flips.

So thank you all, my shiny Giratina is now a very proud part of my collection. I wouldn't have been able to do it without all of you.

Also:
I don't know who made the Javascript RNG timer but that is what I am using to hit my time and delay combo. I just had poor luck with other timers. So whoever made that awsome timer, thank you. My RNG adventure wouldn't be the same without you.

Cheers,
Ringo
 
So, when I was able to RNG my HP Fire Tangrowth, the Tangela (Parent A) had an everstone since I didn't care for Shinyness on it. I was still able to get the IVs on it though, I just didn't feel like RNGing for the Ability and Nature.
I'm RNGing an HP Ice Chimchar, and I hit my seed, matched the calls and advanced the frame with the Chatot, while Parent A had an everstone. Again I didn't go for Shinyness. The IVs did not match up to what I wanted. What went wrong?
With Tangrowth, I just had a Male Tangela and a Ditto, while with Chimchar I'm using a Female Chimchar and a Male Lucario. I know the IVS match up, but I don't know what went wrong.
 
So, when I was able to RNG my HP Fire Tangrowth, the Tangela (Parent A) had an everstone since I didn't care for Shinyness on it. I was still able to get the IVs on it though, I just didn't feel like RNGing for the Ability and Nature.
I'm RNGing an HP Ice Chimchar, and I hit my seed, matched the calls and advanced the frame with the Chatot, while Parent A had an everstone. Again I didn't go for Shinyness. The IVs did not match up to what I wanted. What went wrong?
With Tangrowth, I just had a Male Tangela and a Ditto, while with Chimchar I'm using a Female Chimchar and a Male Lucario. I know the IVS match up, but I don't know what went wrong.

Afaik, chatot only advances one of the rngs. The wrong one in this case. Use calls to Joey to advance that rng by 2 per call. Each time an egg is produced its advanced as well so you could also reject an egg to advance by one. I can't read.
 
Chatot only advances by one frame? I thought I had to scroll through them a few times (my frame with this was 13, so I did the calls, so I scrolled through Chatots three times, Chatot A once, then Chatot B, and then Chatot A again before picking up the egg)
With Tangrowth my frame was 11, so I just did the calls, and did one Chatot before getting the egg.
 
Withdrawn. I think I was up too late when I thought about this..

Zoap is right, need to know what IVs you got to help.
 
^ he is talking about the IV RNG not the PID for the nature and shinyness.

Without a seed and what IV's the offspring actually had I can't do much to help other than to say that the NPC may of advanced you past your target frame. Re-save or take this advancement into consideration.
 
I was trying to RNG breed a pokemon for a friend for the better part of last night. I've successfully done this on numerous occasions for both Shiny and perfect IV pokemon, so I'm not new to the whole thing. But last night I couldn't get it down. I hit the seed for Nature, Ability, Gender and handed the parents over to the Day Care lady, but the egg that it produced wasn't what it should have been. So I changed seeds (thinking that maybe it was because this one was too close to 00:00 or something) and repeated only to get another egg that didn't yield what I wanted.


Trainer: Michael
ID: 57719
SID: 58708
Target Seed: 01000251
Time and Date: 7/27/2012 00:53:15
Target Delay: 581
Frame: 1
PID: 0ADFFC99


The target was an Adamant, Ability 1 (No Guard), Male, non-shiny Machop. The first attempt (using this seed) gave me a Hardy Machop. I am using an International (Japanese) Ditto as one of the parents because I am planning to use it's flawless spread for IVs, but the little box for "Ditto Parent" is greyed out and I can't select it. Would this be causing the problem?
 
In Ruby and Sapphire, how do Feebas encounter slots work? More importantly, if I restart my Ruby and RNG my ID to match, say, frame 17169, will I get a Feebas? I really don't want to go through the game for just a calm shiny Carvahna.
 
In Ruby and Sapphire, how do Feebas encounter slots work? More importantly, if I restart my Ruby and RNG my ID to match, say, frame 17169, will I get a Feebas? I really don't want to go through the game for just a calm shiny Carvahna.
Oh ho..Great mind thing alot
I currently capturing feebas no but on rom, because my frames are above 23million. So far feebas may or may not have a encounter slot, when I have more time I have to check super rod slot 0 or 2 to be 100 sure, at least using the super rod. I found feebas tiles I even have a rom save that was a save on a feebas nibbling on the rod but when the battle started it turn to be a carvanha.

I was trying to RNG breed a pokemon for a friend for the better part of last night. I've successfully done this on numerous occasions for both Shiny and perfect IV pokemon, so I'm not new to the whole thing. But last night I couldn't get it down. I hit the seed for Nature, Ability, Gender and handed the parents over to the Day Care lady, but the egg that it produced wasn't what it should have been. So I changed seeds (thinking that maybe it was because this one was too close to 00:00 or something) and repeated only to get another egg that didn't yield what I wanted.


Trainer: Michael
ID: 57719
SID: 58708
Target Seed: 01000251
Time and Date: 7/27/2012 00:53:15
Target Delay: 581
Frame: 1
PID: 0ADFFC99


The target was an Adamant, Ability 1 (No Guard), Male, non-shiny Machop. The first attempt (using this seed) gave me a Hardy Machop. I am using an International (Japanese) Ditto as one of the parents because I am planning to use it's flawless spread for IVs, but the little box for "Ditto Parent" is greyed out and I can't select it. Would this be causing the problem?

the ditto make the breeding become international
either use timer finder and click the international parent ... oh
I see your problem
find a seed and check it in the rngreporter under hgss or dppt egg pid international
 
Withdrawn. I think I was up too late when I thought about this..

Zoap is right, need to know what IVs you got to help.
The IVs I set out for were 30/31/30/31/31/31, for HP Ice. What I got was 12/26/30/31/31/31. Parent A has 28/31/30/31/31/26, while Parent B has 30/31/30/31/31/31. Parent A was holding an Everstone, but that didn't seem to interfere with my Tangela. Still not sure what went wrong due to the calls matching. My frame was 13, so I matched up the calls and then scrolled through Chatot three times, before grabbing the egg.
 
Did you check if the Ivs match a higher frame? Wandering NPC movements might be advancing your frame.
How do I check that? Unless you mean something like if I was to match P, K, E, E, K, K, E, K, K, (what I actually had to match) and then I started on Kanto instead of Pokerus, which I didn't. I looked back in Time Finder and they don't seem to match anything
 
The IVs I set out for were 30/31/30/31/31/31, for HP Ice. What I got was 12/26/30/31/31/31. Parent A has 28/31/30/31/31/26, while Parent B has 30/31/30/31/31/31. Parent A was holding an Everstone, but that didn't seem to interfere with my Tangela. Still not sure what went wrong due to the calls matching. My frame was 13, so I matched up the calls and then scrolled through Chatot three times, before grabbing the egg.

How do I check that? Unless you mean something like if I was to match P, K, E, E, K, K, E, K, K, (what I actually had to match) and then I started on Kanto instead of Pokerus, which I didn't. I looked back in Time Finder and they don't seem to match anything

Question, why did you scroll through Chatots? Chatots have nearly no meaning in Gen 4.
Did any amount of time pass where you were in the bag window? Meaning you could move, NPCs could have moved, etc.? As in that time there could have been a movement on the NPC that's found lower on that route.
You will only tell if the NPC skipped a frame if you did it while calling, if it advances as you're trying to pick up the egg, the only way of telling is by finding what IVs you got and what frame gives those IVs.
 
Firstly, you're adorable.
Secondly, Chatots advance frames in 4th gen games too. n_n

Adorable? Thanks... I suppose? O-o
So, the Chatot thing was brought to 5th gen by 4th. Wow, how did it only recently get discovered?
They advancement can the Chatots replace? Elm or Joey?
 
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