Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 (DS, June in JP, Fall in EU/NA/AU) - Updated May 12th

[Charon]

Okay mad speculation and dreams. Since it looks like we're getting marred line, maybe we will get ourselves a TAIL GlOW tutor so amphy gets some love. Or maybe they add it to the level up movepool. None of this is likely but I can dream of a day with OU cutemons

Its called firefly light actually...so the chances arent in favor at all.

 

[blasphemy1]

Actually, I'm not sure why everyone is so surprised that they added past-gen Pokemon in during the main story. After all, Platinum included them as well. DP had 151 in its regional 'dex and Platinum had 210. It's just the sheer number they're adding I think impresses most people. We're going from 156 (including event 'mon) to 300. That's the incredible part.

 

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'm glad they seem to be making an effort to make this sufficiently different for it to be worth buying.

 

[R_N]

Its called firefly light actually...so the chances arent in favor at all.

Yeah but...manaphy.

 

[Dark Arceus]

They also show Eevee, Mareep, and Arcanine, who weren't available normally.

anyway just posting what I posted on serebii since why not


ALSO MELOTTA STILL DID NOT GET SUGIMORI ARTWORK

Mareep was in White Forest. Otherwise correct.

I saw this news and I was like "oh heck yeah actual sequels". I can honestly say I was betting against these being sequels and being more of actual remakes.

Oh well. Hoping we can explore all of Icy Unova.

 

[SLFCNSDRT]

EDIT: ooh Liberty Garden being revamped? There was always something strange about that. In the room inside of the lighthouse was a box of toys with a train or something. I think those same toys were in N's room in N's castle :o

Never noticed that. I'll have to go back and take a look

 

[Katakiri]

I hope they fix the post-game pacing. Ghetsis' highest level Pokemon was Level 54. As soon as you get dropped into the post-game, you instantly start seeing Level 65 Pokemon. Unless you do a lot of grinding, your Elite 4 team's gonna be Level 50 max.

I know that some trainers use things like Kakuna, but the first trainers you'll run into on your 2nd run-through of Unova are Level 65 Musharna, Hypno, and other Psychic types in the basement of the Dream Yard.

Cheren actually encourages you to run through all of Unova from the start again, so having Trainers 10 levels stronger than Ghetsis just seemed really out of place.

Platnium's post-game pacing was perfect as every trainer in the Battle Area was about even to Cynthia in terms of Level and I hope they bring that back. Having to grind or stick Exp Shares on half my team was just annoying.

 

[Jimera0]

http://images.serebii.net/corocoro4122big.jpg
Hey, take a closer look at the "ice" at chargestone cave and then the ice just above it, right under that yellow and red text.

See it? They're completely different. The "ice" of chargestone cave is actually just the mountain being coloured blue (Look at the other mountain on the east side of the map for comparison). The reason why the rest of the ice looks like it's not contoured to the land at all is because it isn't on the land at all; it's simply a cool background covering up parts of the map. WHY it's covering it is up to debate; it could be to obscure new changes done to the areas covered for later, or it could just be a cool background for the text and pictures that are covering that area.

So from this I can conclude that Unova has NOT been totally frozen over, though clearly there have been other changes.

 

[R_N]

The whole possibly-frozen unova thing might actually be something we find more about soon; the official website will likely update with it and will probably inadvertantly clarify what is going with it.
Might just be a teaser-based thing (the map "thaws" as we get closer to release) might be an actual thing

 

[Joeyboy]

So from this I can conclude that Unova has NOT been totally frozen over, though clearly there have been other changes.

Exactly, also remember when they released another map there was "fog" covering certain areas. They used the ice this time though as its a little reference to Kyurem. Please everyone needs to stop thinking that half of Unova is gunna be frozen over. Look at Sky Arrow bridge, you can see that the "ice" is just kinda pasted over it.

 

[R_N]

Exactly, also remember when they released another map there was "fog" covering certain areas. They used the ice this time though as its a little reference to Kyurem. Please everyone needs to stop thinking that half of Unova is gunna be frozen over. Look at Sky Arrow bridge, you can see that the "ice" is just kinda pasted over it.

Okay all this talk about fog is getting silly.
Before, Fog covered smidges of areas. On HGSS it covered up the battlefrontier and the golden forest and I think part of the kanto connector.
On Platinum it also covered the Battle Frontier (and I think we knew about it by that point so that's kind of weird).

This ice is literally covering half the region.

I'm not saying that's proof positive the ice is actually there but comparing it to the fog probably isn't the best thing to do.

 

[gali]

Am I the only person who noticed Opelucid looks different?

 

[R_N]

Am I the only person who noticed Opelucid looks different?

It doesn't. It looks exactly the same as on the normal Unova map.

 

[LockDown]

If the ice is just used to cover parts of the map so we can't see, then why is there a screenshot with the same exact ice on the right of the picture?
However, Unova will be really small if it actually is cut off at Skyarrow Bridge...

 

[blasphemy1]

If the ice is just used to cover parts of the map so we can't see, then why is there a screenshot with the same exact ice on the right of the picture?
However, Unova will be really small if it actually is cut off at Skyarrow Bridge...

What? Clearly they obtained the photo of Unova and the picture to the right is merely a smaller version... That doesn't prove anything. Game Freak could have put the ice there in the first place, not just the magazine. You don't release photos to the press and expect they'll alter it for you.

 

[Captain Dragan]

I'm not gonna quote 20 posts, but knowing that I was (I think) the first one who came up with the Eastern Unova being frozen idea, I have to slightly apologize. In my excitement I didn't even remember how the 'ice' looked in the picture we got. So my bad.

But I'm still certain of my theory. I'm only agreeing with the people who say that it doesn't look real enough, not three-dimensionally drawn (...) enough, the ice doesn't seem to fit with how the rest of the region is drawn. So yes, I would agree with the statement that THIS 'ice' is just a cover-up. I still think that Eastern Unova is covered in ice though. Just like Cobraroll said, the fake ice could be hiding major changes to east. Isn't billions of liters of frozen water a major change in appearance?

AND the smaller picture of Unova in the middle-right end of the picture actually seems to depict real ice (for what my eyes tell me) covering the (Eastern half of the) region.
Trust me, the ICE is definitely there!

 

[Furosuto]

These games look awesome. I'm pretty interested in the new gym leaders though. Judging by the horns on that girls guitar, I'm gonna bet 5 bucks that her main pokemon is one of the scolipede family.

The new players look much more appropriate for this gen though. They kinda work with the starters if you know what I mean for style. Sort of like in RSE.

 

[deluge]

Yeah but...manaphy.

Yeah, it started as Volbeat's signature move but a number of signature moves get whored out over time (eg. Blaze Kick, Muddy Water).

I think anything with bioluminescence has a shot if GF starts feeling generous. Lanturn seems like a very good candidate (by comparison with Manaphy) and it is average enough to appreciate the boost. Amphy would be a really cool recipient as well and would hit like a monster truck at +3. They both get Agility too and have the bulk and typing to attempt double-boosting.

I don't expect a tutor but sometimes GF just adds new moves (eg. Scizor BP, Mewtwo Psybreak) so it'd be really cool if they gave more Pokemon Tail Glow.

 

[OVERGRO]

Icy! They pulled a Platinum already!
I think the rest of frozen Unova is availible post-game.
Also, has anyone seen that dome thing with Ruby/Sapphire crystals on it? The caption apparently "What is this? Looks fun!"

CONNECTIONS TO R/S YEAH!

EDIT: Perhaps it will be the gateway to a BATTLE FRONTIER?

But really I'm lovin' it so far, an honest sequel in the same region with new areas and new pokemon and new gym leaders and new everything is awesome!

EDIT: http://images.serebii.net/corocoro4122big.jpg <-- notice the B/W Kyurem sprites up top?

 

[Jimera0]

If the ice is just used to cover parts of the map so we can't see, then why is there a screenshot with the same exact ice on the right of the picture?
However, Unova will be really small if it actually is cut off at Skyarrow Bridge...

Because that's not a screenshot. Look more closely and you'll see that it's actually the ice around the red box going into it. It's just a red box to highlight that miniuture of Unova... while still covering up the areas they don't want to show, because as you can see the same areas are covered in the box as in the big picture.

another possibility is that the "ice" will appear on the map in game and become clear as you progress through the story, or as you visit the area. It's not something Pokemon has done before itself but it's common enough in other games using fog instead.

 

[satchmo]

Well, the new info is very interesting. With an updated Regional dex, akin to Platinum, and adding at least an extra hundred pokemon, as well as actually being a sequel, I must say this is already the most anticipated game for me n the series since Diamond & Pearl.

 

[Tytus]

Initial thoughts:
The new playable characters look like they could be siblings.
And the girl looks like Minnie Mouse.
From the looks of her guitar, the Poison leader likes Venipede.
Where's that Water leader's town? Undella? I see docks and a beach.
Poor Serperior :(
Lucario, Metagross, Tyranitar? Epic!
Underwater tunnel??

 

[The Wanderer]

So it's possible to get Lucario early, huh? I'mma guess he and Zoroark are gonna be version exclusives.

 

[chuckeroo777]

I was planning on getting white 2 but...
IT LOOKS LIKE METAGROSS IS A WHITE EXCLUSIVE! OMG YES! METAGROSS IN PRE NATIONAL!
Also, it looks like the construction workers in the desert finished.
And it looks like we get a proper rival.

 

[satchmo]

I have a huge interest in the version exclusves. They are usually the deciding factor in which game I get. Hopefully Metagross is on the right end of the stick.