There was a gsc ladder on irc. Games were even longer then too, we didnt really bat an eyelid about it, of course, but people were different in those days. You know I used to have to walk for 7 mile, through t' snow, barefoot mind, to hand deliver each move to Atma, who would beat us severely if we ever exceeded our timers. And did we ever complain? Of course not! But if you try telling the young people of today that, they wont believe you.