Gen VII: Pokémon Sun and Moon (New info Post #5834)

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Everyone hyped saying that Junichi Masuda talks about new "element".
Fuck google translate!
It's WRONG.

Junichi Masuda didn't talk about new "element" or new "type"-- he was talking about new "features" just like any other game.
Nothing to be hyped.

This is exactly what happens when people think that google translate is good, and get unnecessarily hyped.

Yeah, Google Translate isn't meant to be used as a trusted translating tool.
 
Not sure if this has been said, but the vibes I'm getting from Tapu Koko is that it plays a similar role in these games that Suicune & Azelf did. That is, it's probably legendary group member that interacts the most with the player or has some sort of greater role in the story.

I can't recall other pokemon being known as guardians of a location and not having any legendary status. Maybe the player tries to convince Tapu Koko early or mid-game to help defeat a threat and to do so you must defeat it. At least it looks really cool.


also, quick guesses:

  • Popplio & its evos are fast. Learns agility, bounce, helping hand, bubble beam.
  • Drampa is slow with middling bulk but with equal attacking stats. Probably a good in game pokemon.
  • Vikavolt will be good, a top tier pokemon.
  • Ivanko or Rockruff will evolve by leaving it in a daycare or something similar.
  • Rowlet and its evos won't be fast, probably average to slow speed.
 
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also, quick guesses:
  • Popplio & its evos are fast. Learns agility, bounce, helping hand, bubble beam.
  • Rowlet and its evos won't be fast, probably average to slow speed.

From the "Battle Royal" Mode they showed, there was a fight between Pikachu, Litten, Popplio and Rowlet at lvl 5 and order of attack was : Pikachu (obviously), Litten, Rowlet, Popplio. Of course lvl 5 don't really mean a lot but it's already a starting point. And with this order I am very afraid of Popplio becoming a Samurott 2.0, and I'm also kinda sick of slow Grass Type Starter (same could be said about Water though)
 
Design-wise, everything about this game has been blowing me away... except the trainer. The female one's fine though but the male one just looks so dorky and way too young. Has to be that striped shirt lol.

Well, technically, the trainers are supposed to be young anyway. It seemed to me that May's ORAS design was younger than either her RS or her Emerald design, so maybe that's something they're going for now. Something about these two though, using Elio and Selene from the Battle Royal for the sake of discussion, seems to make them feel like they have a more...generic quality to them than the previous player characters did. Selene's hat, and maybe her bag, are the most distinguishing features between the two of them, and it seems like they would be easy to forget after passing them on the streets. The other characters have a sort of level of detail (Hilda, Nate), or style (Lucas, Serena) that shows that they are meant to be important characters, if not in their world, then to us as the players.

Elio and Selene, though, are quite plain looking compared to other characters, even to Hau and Lillie, who at least have detailed hair styles and clothing. There is a possible exception to this with Red and Leaf, but they manage to get by as being more iconic than generic, particularly in Red's case. Actually, I could kind of see Elio being a male version of Selene in the same way that Leaf comes of as a female version of Red, something that isn't really true of any other pair of player characters. It feels like there's a certain level of detail that's lost to Elio and Selene, and because of this, GF has made it feel like these two were meant to play the role of blank canvases, to an even higher degree than Calem and Serena did.

The ability to actually change our characters around, as has been shown to be allowed, will probably let us make up for them appearing to be so young, at least to a degree. As long as we're provided with a good selection of clothes and varied hair colors and styles, for the both of them, we should be able to make them seem older than they are. Honestly, we need event clothing, or the return of the medal system from BW2, but with superficial rewards that we can earn, and not just buy.
 
It looks like the official site has finally told us roughly what Ash-Greninja actually is.
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/a-sneak-peek-at-new-features/
"you’ll discover moves more powerful than any seen before".
If you have been watching any of the amine you will see that Ash-ninja uses a powered up Water Shuriken which does the major damage. It seems that these Syncro's do not get a bst boost but instead get a super OP move that makes its power levels rival megas.
Pikachu seems to be the next in line to get this kind of form change,as his cheeks have turned white-pink and its move is confirmed to be super powerful. Oh and the professor studies moves? What more confirmation is needed? As the form change occurs mid battle the super move must be based on a regular attack, such as Pikachu's thunderbolt. Both the water shuriken and thunderbolt are golden coloured as well if you need any more proof.

I won't introduce more speculations here about Syncro Evolution but i just want to state this: the Anime is just a huge videogame commercial so it's natural that a major fighting mechanic featured in the anime will be in the games in some shape or another. How it will be? we don't know and i won't speculate more about it

Now

oh. I think you want to check this out: http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/ go to the legendary filter. There is only two: Solgaleo and Lunala. Tapu Koko is just a normal pokemon.

Yes but in the spanish site ( http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/es-es/pokemon/tapu-koko/ ) says that this pokemon is a native god (dios nativo) which can make you ask if this pokemon is a legendary or not
 
Do you guys thing that ability Bruxish has which stops priority moves will be any good?
well that depends on its stats and its distribution and what other move does it has. We are not sure if it affects abilities that change the priority of normal moves like gale wings or prankster or if it even affect non attacking priority moves.

What i like is the ability of Tapu Koko. In doubles you can pair it with Komala (or its evolution) and make it immune to all status. And in singles it can stop pokemon who use rest to be healthy and stall which means if tapu koko has the right stats and moves it can be a good stall breaker
 
Wow. Can you imagine how strong a single move would have to be to make Pikachu of all things viable? Not even mega-viable, just regularly "yeah Pikachu is a decent Pokemon now." Like... it'd have to ignore immunities, probably have priority, and have a stupidly high base power. Weird.

Wouldn't object though; one of my pet peeves over megas is that Pikachu couldn't have one without breaking the mechanic and wrecking its design. A new mechanic in the form of a move is a much easier pill to swallow.
 
Wow. Can you imagine how strong a single move would have to be to make Pikachu of all things viable? Not even mega-viable, just regularly "yeah Pikachu is a decent Pokemon now." Like... it'd have to ignore immunities, probably have priority, and have a stupidly high base power. Weird.

Wouldn't object though; one of my pet peeves over megas is that Pikachu couldn't have one without breaking the mechanic and wrecking its design. A new mechanic in the form of a move is a much easier pill to swallow.

If that happened, it would be all typical of Game Freak. I bet they have regretted making Raichu ever since Gen I. Over the years, they've done a lot to give Pikachu more viability, or at least making it better than its evolution, so Raichu doesn't - pardon the pun - steal its thunder.
 
If that happened, it would be all typical of Game Freak. I bet they have regretted making Raichu ever since Gen I. Over the years, they've done a lot to give Pikachu more viability, or at least making it better than its evolution, so Raichu doesn't - pardon the pun - steal its thunder.
I'd really the Super Move to be carried onto Raichu. I love Raichu and it'd be interesting.
 
I'd really the Super Move to be carried onto Raichu. I love Raichu and it'd be interesting.

Well the thing is usually whatever Pikachu gets usually Raichu gets it too. The only exception is the Light Ball boost, but that's suppose to get Pikachu's stats on a somewhat same level as Raichu's. However Volt Tackle, Surf, Nuzzle, etc. more given to Pikachu but can also be utilized by Raichu.

Still deserves at least one Mega. Pichu got its time in the spotlight, Pikachu got its specifically with Cosplay Pikachu, I think it's Raichu's turn for something.
 
I coined it, dunno what it's supposed to be. Doesn't look like a standard Thunderbolt, though.
The only thing that could look similar is... Charge Beam. Hmm... Either this is entirely different move or they just want to show off new animations of old moves, but that's unlikely. I mean, just Charge Beam of all things?

Intrigued.... Still, possibility that it's just new animation of Charge Beam called new feature (of course because GameFreak) is there. Perhaps.
 
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The only thing that could look similar is... Charge Beam. Hmm... Either this is entirely different move or they just want to show off new animations of old moves, but that's unlikely. I mean, just Charge Beam of all things?

Intrigued.... Still, possibility that it's just new animation of Charge Beam called new feature is there. Perhaps.

Well it's in a post of "new features" so if it were just a new animation would be dickish.
There's also the leaks showing space for a fifth move.
 
We've also seen a "wild" gengar, salamence, and metagross, to name a few. These aren't wild pokemon, they're just specific encounters shown for promotional purposes.

Charjabug was shown at level 28 in the Japanese trailer, just before the its evolution sequence was shown. It seems that the charjabug was wild, judging by the lack of a trainer, but the idea that relatively high leveled charjabugs could be found in the wild does support this theory. It makes it feel more like Swadloon and Whirlipede, rather than Metapod or Silcoon. This doesn't mean that level 28 charjabugs will actually be available in the wild, there have been discrepancies in information like this before, but vikavolt being viable in the late game would be nice.

I already beat you to that conclusion, and both Gengar and Metagross have been found in the wild before, anyway, as have Milotic and Dragonite. I should also note that the gengar in that battle was our's, and the Lunala was the 'wild' one. My point was that, if charjabug can in fact be found in the wild at level 28, then this could be an indication that grubbin would have an evolution cycle more in line with sewaddle and venepede, rather than that of caterpie, weedle, wurmple, and scatterbug.

Just because some pokémon and battles are staged, this doesn't mean, nor should it be assumed that they all are. In fact, there were more examples displayed that could be quite realistic to expect than there were fights that were plainly staged. The most blatantly staged fights were the ones displaying Solgaleo (with the wild metagross), Lunala, and Zygarde (with the wild garchomp). Most of the others could be conceivable, given the levels and apparent locations, with the possible exception of the milotic in the forest. This doesn't mean that they're fact, or that we'll even see these older pokémon in the games, it just gives us bits and pieces of what we might be able to expect. After all, if everything we were told during the pre-release phases was true, then Gardevoir would have Fairy Wind.
 
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