-
Welcome to Smogon! Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules.
Data Pokemon Sun/Moon Battle Mechanics Research
- Thread starter Nexus
- Start date
May be old news, but Early Bird pokémon can wake up in the very same turn they were put to sleep (so from 1-3 turns it seems to go 0-2 or 0-1).
In-game battle video is a more accurate source than the sim. That's the whole point of this thread: making the sim work according to the in-game mechanics.
I sse the "confusion got nerfed" is still pretty unconfirmed.
IMO, it's likely that's also a rumor (especially since we got a lot of earlier ones that people regurgitated around without even mentioning sources, like Eviolite and Unaware).
From a small sample size from my part, (100 uses, 52 of 100 on self-hurt), it seems that the status is unchanged. Also, at least one other person tested the rolls as well - with similar results.
IMO, it's likely that's also a rumor (especially since we got a lot of earlier ones that people regurgitated around without even mentioning sources, like Eviolite and Unaware).
From a small sample size from my part, (100 uses, 52 of 100 on self-hurt), it seems that the status is unchanged. Also, at least one other person tested the rolls as well - with similar results.
Does the symbosis glitch still happen in this game?
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/battle-mechanics-research.3489239/page-62#post-6401506
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/battle-mechanics-research.3489239/page-62#post-6401506
So does that mean it's a glitch here? I don't have the games. Besides my 3DS is broken anyway.
Yes, it is a bug in the sim. Nearly everything about how comatose has been tested afaik, and just needs to be implemented to PS.
Since Prankster boosted moves no longer affect dark types, how will Zoroark and Zorua work?
Can they be affected when transformed?
If they can't, will it reveal the transformation?
or does it depend on whether or not they are transformed into another dark type pokemon?
Can they be affected when transformed?
If they can't, will it reveal the transformation?
or does it depend on whether or not they are transformed into another dark type pokemon?
Why would it fail? Smeargle can use Dark void right?
Dark Void was changed, it will now fail if used by any Pokemon other than Darkrai, even if they have it available in their moves (just like Hoopa-Unbound and Hyperspace Fury). Too bad for Smeargle.
It'll fail, but they won't have the illusion broken. I'm assuming... that's how moves work at least. Illusion leaves their type in tact, so it should leave them immune to prankster.
Not anymore. Dark Void is now restricted to Darkrai-only. Smeargle can Sketch it, but it can't use it.
That is what I'm trying to confirm. I did not think it would break, but I see it being a problem in the future if nothing happens.
Imagine fighting what you think is a pidgey and having your prankster Liepard's thunder wave fail. This is a really obscure scenario, so most people may be very confused over what is happening and report it, when it is legal. Maybe it should break the Illusion?
How does Beast Boost interact with stuff like Power Swap/Guard Swap/Speed Swap, or Power Split/Guard Split? If the user's highest stat is different as a result of one of these moves, is the new highest stat boosted instead?
Let's say that a +Spe Pheromosa uses Speed Swap on a Shuckle, giving the Pheromosa a low speed stat, and then the Pheromosa gets a kill afterwards. Would its speed stat still be boosted?
The description on the first page states that Beast Boost "ignores any modifiers to that stat from status, items, or moves." Does this include the moves mentioned previously, or is this just referring to stat boosting moves like Swords Dance?
Let's say that a +Spe Pheromosa uses Speed Swap on a Shuckle, giving the Pheromosa a low speed stat, and then the Pheromosa gets a kill afterwards. Would its speed stat still be boosted?
The description on the first page states that Beast Boost "ignores any modifiers to that stat from status, items, or moves." Does this include the moves mentioned previously, or is this just referring to stat boosting moves like Swords Dance?
It still works that way; I used psychic in a battle on here against a zoroark disguised as talonflame and it didn't work. It was good in that situation because I wanted to draw it out so I knew which pokemon it was, so that sort of thing can be used strategically.
Change of design philosophy in Gen 7 I guess. They seem to preserving old forme change mechanics, but for the new Gen 7 forme changes you can't touch them.
Need less vague questions. These items effects only impact mechanics that only Wrap clones have. Thousand Waves clones already have infinite trapping duration and have no constriction damage. They didn't interact with waves last gen (afaik). Am I missing an interaction here?
No and no.
It works like normal, same with snore and whatever else requires the user to be asleep.
I don't know if this is a new feature or not, but I was fighting Dexio in the postgame stint where he shows off Mega Alakazam. I had sent my Wishiwashi out and so when it Mega Evolved, it didn't Trace Schooling. However, after it got knocked out and I sent out my next 'Mon, it Traced that ability (I forget what it was). Is it known that Trace will work any turn now or did I just never encounter that issue before?
Sorry, you've left me slightly confused there... can the old Forme change Abilities such as Forecast and Zen Mode be overwritten in Gen 7 or only in Gen 6?