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Aeroblacktyl said:
also it's not brady's fault, you'd rather have like rodney harrison accidentally tackle belichick on the side as he misses addai on the sideline or something and end up breaking belichick's ribs
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I suppose not, but he's basically the face of the organization alongside Belichick. Unless it's life-threatening, injuring Belichick doesn't really impede his ability to coach.

And their defense really isn't all that great, but it's a big help that their offense is so strong it forces the other team to be one-dimensional on offense themselves.
 
So what I think I'm seeing here is:

Colts and anti-Patriots: "Brady is running up too many points in a professional-level football game where the players are paid to win by scoring points. WAAAAAAH!"

Sorry you're all getting stomped folks. Maybe the Patriots wouldn't score so many points if the other teams weren't stinking up the field.

This is football people. The only time anyone complains about "statpadding" is when it isn't their team. The fact is, the players play to win and to achieve the best they can. Everyone wants to be the next Hank Aaron (yes, I know Hank is baseball).

I for one hope the Patriots stomp the Colts by 17 or more points too. Peyton Manning is the favorite posterchild of sports talking heads. Last year they were whining nonstop about Manning being the best quarterback that never won a Superbowl.

Manning has his ring, so he can quit whining now and go back to being the close second as he always has been.
 
I'm really glad the Packers won. Favre was great and the defense had some good plays even though they had a lot of penalties too. Great overtime play.

Deck Knight said:
Last year they were whining nonstop about Manning being the best quarterback that never won a Superbowl.
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That hardly relates to Brady at all. Manning really was the best QB to not win a super bowl (at least now [last season, whatever]).

Brady on the other hand is staying in when the team is winning by 38 points. I don't care that they're scoring 38, but when you're leaving all your starters in at the end of the 3rd quarter with a 38+ point lead, that's just being an asshole. Going for it on 4th+1 in that situation in easy FG range (they were on like the 5 I think) too.
 
meh I dont see a problem with the Pats scoring points. Thats what people want to see anyways and it makes sure if anything screwy in the game happens that they are up by many points. Looking forward to next weeks game forsure.. I actually like to watch a Pats game where they dont win by 3 or more TDs.
 
You mean like the defense taking cheap shots with intent to injure? It's definitely possible.

Deck Knight, I just want to say that I could respect your opinions so much more than I currently do if you weren't such a phenomenal douchebag.

In short, go Bills.
 
Lutalo said:
You mean like the defense taking cheap shots with intent to injure? It's definitely possible.

Deck Knight, I just want to say that I could respect your opinions so much more than I currently do if you weren't such a phenomenal douchebag.

In short, go Bills.
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Amen. Anyone who thinks that shot on Losman was an accident is blind. I'm sorry, but when you're falling, you throw out your hands to catch you, not your elbow. And you certainly don't aim it at another player's knee. That entire team is full of cheap-shot artists.
 
Tmnt Boy said:
The pats can do what they want when they want till anyone stops them. Belichick is an OG. Brady is a stud and Randy Moss + Wes Welker makes db's look silly. Their defense is stout. They the best team in the NFL.

The giants are 6-2 and although I'm a fan of the giants I'm still not impressed they haven't done anything spectacular. But Giants vs Cowboys week 9 will be a big game for the NFC.
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week 1...? =[ we'll see how much this 'great defense' will give up after the first 45 point explosion.
 
Well, that was one of the most amazing games i've ever seen. Of course im talking about last night, Packers @ Broncos. Most of you saw it so im not going to clock in on that. Heres my 2 cents on the colts\pats and everything else on our road to THE SHIP- Only one of them can play the packers this year in the superbowl, tbh idc who it is. Because either way Brett is going to lite them up. Tbh, id rather play the pats because they seem full of themselves, and not to mention it would be awesome to jack them up. Where as the Colts seem somewhat respectable, as a team vs a bunch of idiots. Overall, im not really a colts fan and definately not a pats fan. If i had to pick a second favorite team im leaning towards redskins, and the giants are a long stretch. (long) The jist of it is that the Packers are for real, we already got the giants out of the way and the cowboys are just "so good" because they can beat horrible teams. Lions will be a pain too, but tbh the lions are just a wildcard kinda team.
 
Deck Knight said:
Manning has his ring, so he can quit whining now and go back to being the close second as he always has been.
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ahahahahahaha brady better than manning good one ololololol

To be fair, Marino was the better QB to have never won a Super Bowl. I can't really consider Manning "better" until he finishes his career. Manning is still better than Brady, he's practically his own OC.

GB_Packers_Ftw said:
The jist of it is that the Packers are for real, we already got the giants out of the way and the cowboys are just "so good" because they can beat horrible teams. Lions will be a pain too, but tbh the lions are just a wildcard kinda team.
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The Cowboys sure didn't beat the Giants too or anything like that. They also didn't crush the Bears who the Packers didn't lose against and they don't have a running game either.
 
Mr.E said:
ahahahahahaha brady better than manning good one ololololol

To be fair, Marino was the better QB to have never won a Super Bowl. I can't really consider Manning "better" until he finishes his career. Manning is still better than Brady, he's practically his own OC.



The Cowboys sure didn't beat the Giants too or anything like that. They also didn't crush the Bears who the Packers didn't lose against and they don't have a running game either.
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Manning is the better QB. I can easily say Brady came into his own as a QB only once he had two rings. Rohan Davey could've quarterbacked that Pats team to the Super Bowl. There's no question he's great now, but he wasn't great then. Manning has been great pretty much since his 2nd year in the league, and I really cannot imagine anyone BUT Peyton Manning(or some legendary great) leading the Colts back like he did in the AFC championship game. IMO, no one, not even the Patsies, can go into Indy and expect to win.

As for the Packers....I'll believe it when I see it. JP Losman and Lee Evans would've had Champ Bailey looking like a chump if they were allowed to do their thing more than once that game. Lee Evans had at least a full step on Bailey on that poorly-called bomb play. You can get Champ over the top IMO, but it's pretty much suicide any other way.
 
Well the theme of the Green Bay Packers is simply becoming win ball games no matter how ugly it gets, but "experts" say its becoming yeah, BUT. Im going to go through every week with the "experts" butts.

Week 1 (Packers vs. Eagles) Remeber, this is when the Eagles were supposedly good and we had lost to them like 4 times in a row. Everyone is thinking we will be a distant second to da Bears (lol). Basicly philly is excited for nothing and we rip there guts out. Well, with a little luck on muffed punts, which is the yeah BUTT.

Week 2 (Packers @ Giants) Basic asumption around the league is that we have no offense at all, and that the Giants Defense will finally click this week, and if it doesnt (Yeah, BUTT) it won't mean anything for the Packers because the Giants def is (was?) horrible anyways.

Week 3 (Packers Vs. Chargers) Yeah the 14-2 Chargers march into Green Bay damn they're good, predicted for the W in a sweep on espn(lol) and many other "expert" sites. The Packers win, but it was lucky because Brett Favre got lucky going long and he is just to old. (lets see you've been saying he is to old since we lost the superbowl to the broncos.)

Week 4: (Packers vs. Vikings) Brett Favre hates domes even though he won the superbowl in the superdome over the pats 11 years ago. And the Vikings are just that bad. So the win doesn't mean anything. The record is only there because he is like 40, thats why he has them all. Packers win, Favre gets the record, and maybe now, there is no butts. Yeah BUTT, they have no running game@@?@!?@?!? OMFG NO RUNNING GAME, definately going 4-12 on the season at this point.

Week 5: yeah we killed ourselves in this one, 2 fumble in bears terriotory for james jones....bears did not beat us WE beat ourselves.

Week 6: (Packers Vs Redskins) Brett's Worst game of the season, which i attribute to the weather and the fact the redskins are a pretty good defensive unit, particularly agaisnt the pass. And since we don't have a running game we definately will lose, espn(lol) picks are 4-4. The Packer's are not 1 dimensional, infact we are 3 dimensional. 3 dementional would be passing attack, running attack, and defense. And yeah BUTT the Packers should have more offense and Brett Favre is so damn old. And heres my favroite, and no one knows who said this: Brett Favre is a washed up old guy and his arm is definately going, i mean look at those picks. Heres another: OMFG THE INTERCEPTION RECORD@@ thats so bad definately going 5-11 at this point in the season.

Week 7: bye, good time to regroup before a big monday night game next week.

Week 8: (Packers @ Broncos) Yeah, BUTT: Favre has never won in colorodo and omfg the rockies are going to play which means the broncos will win. And the broncos have such a good secondary which champ and dre bly. Two long bombs later (from the evidently armless, washed up Favre) the Packers find themselves 19-13 over the Broncos. Not to mention that our rookie, "possession" (im basicly saying he is like a tight end) reciever went mono y mono with champ and took him to the house for a 79 yard TD. Dre Bly got burned for the game winner (82 yards in Ot) by greg jennings, which is our deep threat but still. Not to mention we had 104 rushing yards with some guy off the practice squad. Yeah, BUTT It was agaisnt a horrible rushing defense (hold on weren't we saying that the broncos had a good defense in pregame? meh screw it Favres just to old) Bigby had 4 penalties @@@@ -yes this was a huge problem, including one delay of game penalty where he kicked the ball. Later in a press conference he remdeemed himself by saying that he was more used to play soccer, so naturally he kicked the ball. (lmao) TOTALY REDEEMED.

Week 9 (Packers @ Chiefs) Yeah BUTT: again Favre has never won here and the Chiefs are 5th in allowed points. Not to mention how darn good they are because they are in the AFC. Dude if the Packers were in the Afc they would prolly be 0-9 having played 8 games, im not gonna lie to ya. Well on the serious side this was an amazing game, and i spent it with my family which made it even better. Hopefully, im not going ot have to edit this post and add a BUTT for this game, because we are definately legit... or at least we will be when we rush for 260 yards a game like the vikings, who are 3-5 (lol) btw.
 
Lions, because they always act that way at the begining of a season. What i mean is they get overhyped about there draft picks.(lol) I picked the lions basicly because i knew that the Packers would start this way. Not so sure about the Browns (I havent sat down and watched a game yet), but they seem legit, beating seatle and all, and more power to the AFC teams that aren't cheaters.
 
I don't mean to offend, but the Packers did just win two road games against Denver and Kansas City, two very strong home-playing teams. In other words, I don't think that constitutes "shitty teams."

I'm incredibly surprised about the Lions though. The Browns are a real shocker, too. However, the Browns did make the playoffs 2 or 3 years ago, so they haven't been completely awful all the time. The Lions, on the other hand, have been horrid for many seasons.
 
theamericandream38 said:
Browns imo, the Lions have played some really sloppy games and the Packers have played against shitty teams thus far sans the Giants.
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Eagles used to be a top team in the NFC
the Chargers had the best record in the league last year
the Giants are one of the top NFC teams
the Redskins have a winning record
the Broncos were at the top of their division
the Chiefs were at the top of their division
Minnesota has the best rusher in the league and Favre broke the record there.
and the Packers and Vikings have always been a good rivalry.

Yeah...They might not win the Super Bowl, I wish they would, but they're a good team.
The Patriots already won the Super Bowl anyway.
 
My dad and my brother are currently at the Eagles/Cowboys game. I'm trying to pay attention to it, but i'm too distracted online to do so...not to mention the Eagles are currently behind 14-7 and it's almost the end of the first half...they are not in a good place right now.

edit: Make that 21-7...I won't be surprised if some fans start leaving the stadium.
 
Honestly who gives a shit what experts say. They're not even experts. If we were to listen to what they say every fucking week of every fucking month of every fucking year, we would NEVER BE SUPRISED so fuck the experts. =/

If you think your Packers are good, then thats good. Your team is winning, who gives a fuck whether the experts are making up excuses as to why they're not.

P.S. Pats 16-0 (19-0)
 
Storm FTW said:
Eagles used to be a top team in the NFC
the Chargers had the best record in the league last year
the Giants are one of the top NFC teams
the Redskins have a winning record
the Broncos were at the top of their division
the Chiefs were at the top of their division
Minnesota has the best rusher in the league and Favre broke the record there.
and the Packers and Vikings have always been a good rivalry.

Yeah...They might not win the Super Bowl, I wish they would, but they're a good team.
The Patriots already won the Super Bowl anyway.
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Key word you use quite often "were." Lets go down that list of teams you are making out to be some of the best, and remember, last year has nothing to do with this year, case in point: the Chargers. 14-2 last year does not reflect to anything this year.

Eagles: You used the words "used to," which is right, they used to be good, but right now they are 3-5 and cannot score at all apart from that anomaly vs Detroit.

Giants: Sure they are near the top now but everyone had them at the bottom after the first 2 games, they gave up 45 and 35, and since then have not given up over 24. Many attribute it to the new defensive scheme they had in place that the players still had to get used to. Once the first 2 games seem like an anomaly. 6-2.

Chargers have looked average which also reflects that in their record of 4-4. The 4 teams they did beat have a losing record and have even lost to teams with losing records. Norv Turner is a different coach from Marty.

Minnesota: 3-5 even behind Adrian Peterson, they lack a pass offense (no QB or WRs) and have no pass defense (give up 288.3 per game), something gunslinger Favre can take advantage of.

Loss to Chicago is pretty inexcusable, they're 3-5 and seemingly lost their vaunted defense of the past 2 years.

Washington: Finally a team with a winning record? 5-3 is good in the NFC but then you have to look at the Redskins wins, are they validated? Beating the Jets and Dolphins is not something you want to brag about with their combined 1-16 record, the rest of their wins come from sub .500 teams with the sole exception of Detroit who have either blown out the opponent or been blown out themselves.

Denver: Dre Bly and Champ did not look like the shut down corners they are, and they gave up several long bombs form Favre. But the Broncos are still not what they used to be, with their only surprising win coming against the Steelers, another 3-5 team here.

Kansas City: 4-4 but guess what, their wins come from sub .500 teams and the loss of Larry Johnson during the game did not help one bit. They couldn't shut the game out by running with their star so they got into a 4th quarter shootout.

and believe it or not but the Packers had one of the easiest schedules coming into this year, with them at the bottom half of that chart.

So in short, I am not sold on them at all, but they seem to be winning when they shouldn't, lets see if this continues into the playoffs and the second half of the season, but right now I would be more scared of the Cowboys and Giants right now. Both of whom have something to prove next week.

But I'm not trying to take away from what they are doing, it is great, but you do have to put things into perspective here.
 
Well god damn..Ever think I used "were" top of their division before the Packers beat them?
Sure the Chiefs are 4-4 now..
But if they would have won, 5-3 would have looked a lot better.
and Larry Johnson didn't do shit other than that one TD reception.
I'm glad he's injured.
Denver was 3-3(I think the Chiefs and Chargers were both 3-3) at the time...So good point of calling them 3-5 now...3 + TWO LOSES = FIVE?! NO WAY!
And the Packers defence doesn't mess around..Holding LJ(and LT), a top rusher, to so little is impressive.
Let's look at their Ranks in the NFL.
Points: 9th
Yards: 5th
Pass Yards: 2nd
Rush yards: 32
DEFENSIVE STATS
Points: 8th
Yards: 11th
Pass Yards: 20th
Rush Yards: 8th
But they only do that cause their schedule is so easy.

and thanks for the link...LIKE I CAN'T DO IT MYSELF!
I know they're schedule.
I know who they play.
And it's not like they're going to win the Super Bowl.
New England will...
 
Mr.E said:
Browns 5-3, Lions 6-2, Packers 7-1. Biggest surprise?
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Out of those three, for me it's the Packers. On these very forums, last year and over the summer, I said that Favre was done and they would be nowhere near a contender this year. I was WAY off. I don't understand how anyone is surprised by the Lions, anyone who knows football would have recognized what that offense is capable of before the season even started. The defense was the only x-factor, and it has definitely shown up. As for the Browns, everyone and their mother knew Charlie Frye wasn't the right answer, it was only a matter of time before Anderson or Quinn came in and ignited that team.

Biggest surprise overall? Denver. 3-5 right now, and all 3 wins are on winning/last-second field goals. Entirely unimpressive, defense is shit, and without those coin flips they're 0-8 right now.
 
A hypothetical situation here:

What if the Pats were to go 16-0 and lose in the playoffs, or even in the Super Bowl? Would that still count as a "perfect" season then?
 
No. 19-0 is a perfect season, which I am 99.9% sure will NEVER EVER happen.

Not this year, anyway. The Patriots go to the Meadowlands on the final week of the regular season to entertain the Giants. That New York front 4 would give the Pats' offensive line fits on a regular week, but with the Giants probably fighting for their playoff lives--if not the NFC East--and New England probably already wrapping up home field, the Pats will rest some players and end up losing a close one.

That's what I expect to happen, anyway.
 
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