As I'm not seeing much discussion about bans and suspects and I fear that someday a council will be randomly announced and with it, quickbans that had no discussion in this thread, I decided to start some discussion about three very important mons and some other threats:
Kyurem-B (mostly
): I can start this by saying that I was wrong. Although Banded Electric/Dragon can be very dangerous, Defensive Steel/Flying is much more useful and threatening. Kyu-B doesn't act just like a wall. It's bulkier than Skarmory, and it can wall stuff while setting up. SpD Steel/Flying can do crazy stuff like taking 60% from STAB Modest Magearna Thunderbolt. I'm not calling for a quickban, I just think it should be suspected/ discussed about more. I think the most used sets are:
Kyurem-Black
@ Leftovers
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Impish Nature
- Iron Head
- Roost
- Hone Claws
- Fusion Bolt/ Dragon Tail/ Substitute
Dragonite (
,
,
,
,
, and some more): You can already see the 'problem' here: While Dragonite certainly lacks Kyu-B bulk (Multiscale broken), it's certainly a lot more versatile in what it can do, having a much better set up move (Dragon Dance) and access to Extreme Speed, Fire Punch, Earthquake, Waterfall, Thunder Punch and Superpower. If it's not banworthy, it's certainly a force to be reckoned with. Dragonite can fit almost any team, because it has so much utility and sweeping potential, being a good choice from Stall to HO. I personally think it's not as 'bad' as Kyu-B, because although it can do more stuff than it, Dragonite is not as good as Defensive Kyu-B at any of its roles.
Mawile-Mega (
and
): this one is pretty simple - it gets access to STAB Sucker Punch and Knock Off, being annoying to both offensive and defensive teams. Play Rough + Knock Off hit pretty hard, and there are only three type combinations that give you resistance to both. Extreme-Speed being relevant doesn't help Sucker Punch, but with the right support, this is an amazing wallbreaker, sweeper and late game cleaner. I personally don't like Mawile-M's presence at all, but I haven't had much trouble dealing with it, and I haven't used it, so there's not much more I can say.
Other threats now:
Zygarde (
): With the introduction of Thousand Arrows, Zygarde jumped from a forgotten BL mon to a A+ OU mon, showing how strong it is. Zygarde is also blessed with one of the most coveted moves at OMs: Extreme Speed. Grass and Bug are not too common, so Thousand Arrows is really good and STAB Extreme Speed just helps it sweep more efficiently and revenge kill stuff. I've seen it sometimes and also used it, it's good, but not broken. Coil and Dragon Dance are both good options.
Metagross-Mega ( ? -
,
,
,
): Given how fast and strong Metagross-M is, and also how threatening its coverage is, you would imagine that, in a meta where it can get rid off it's usually poor ofensive type in Psychic to use something stronger like Fighting or Ice it would be broken. Well, that's not quite the case (atleast not from my experience with it, which it's not much). This meta giving us better Defensive options like Avalugg and also more Ground types (most typings Meta-M would like to use are Ground weak) make his job harder. Better offensive typings often mean worse Defensive typings for it, which makes it loose some of its power from OU. Thunder Punch/Ice Punch are not very strong moves, and EQ is not boosted by TC, so its most powerful moves (Meteor Mash and Hammer Arm) often suffer with the Ghost and Steel spam in the meta. Anyway, I believe it's definitely a very powerful threat, it's just underused.
I hope this can spark some discussion.
(Sorry for the eventual grammar errors).