Already edited it, but I guess I didn't make it in time lol.Garchomp? Did you mean to put that with Drasna next to Ampharos?
Already edited it, but I guess I didn't make it in time lol.Garchomp? Did you mean to put that with Drasna next to Ampharos?
I'll acknowledge that I might be grading Grant on a curve, considering he's not the past embodiment of "Geodude Onix unique Pokémon" like the other Rock type gyms are. Of the others I'd probably give Ramos a little more credit if he'd had a Lombre or Ludicolo for Ice/Fire pokes, but for whatever reason GameFreak seemed allergic to letting the gym leaders have more than 3. For her part Olivia's trial in Ultra Sun/Moon isn't bad either except for the lack of a Steel type counter.I have to be honest, I don't see the hype at all for Grant. Two first-stage fossils would be fine for like, Level 15, but at Level 25? Ain't a good look. Admittedly my memory of playing through Y is kinda hazyish but I don't recall a particular struggle, all the guy's really got going for him is a deceptively strong Take Down from Amaura. If he had a third mon he would be cool, but in his current state he's just really meh to me. More than anything the fact people praise him this often is just a sad commentary on the rest of XY's boss design Viola not withstanding.
Truth be told, his gym is a great gym overall, which gives him cool points.I have to be honest, I don't see the hype at all for Grant. Two first-stage fossils would be fine for like, Level 15, but at Level 25? Ain't a good look. Admittedly my memory of playing through Y is kinda hazyish but I don't recall a particular struggle, all the guy's really got going for him is a deceptively strong Take Down from Amaura. If he had a third mon he would be cool, but in his current state he's just really meh to me. More than anything the fact people praise him this often is just a sad commentary on the rest of XY's boss design Viola not withstanding.
What a coincidence, I beat her with Mega Punch Wartortle yesterday on Blue.I don't know about you guys, but i honestly think Misty feels straight up unfair in both the original and the remakes. The reasoning is pretty simple: the game is throwing something at the player that's WAYYYYY too strong for them to reasonably deal with at that point, to the point where the game's intended "counterplay" of catching a grass-type on the routes above cerulean can end up being ineffective because of just how ridiculous her Starmie is by the standards of being the second gym in the game. As far as i can tell the best way to beat her is to either pick Bulbasaur or get the Magikarp from the Magikarp salesman and evolve it, otherwise it's a massive pain.
I don't think the Grass-types are particularly effective honestly, they get completely and utterly outmatched by Misty's Starmie statwise and neither of them learn a decent BP Grass-type move around the time you'd be fighting misty, Oddish is stuck with Absorb. Wartortle should work out nicely though.What a coincidence, I beat her with Mega Punch Wartortle yesterday on Blue.
I dunno, there's plenty of counterplay.
She's tough on a neutral matchup because nothing really wants to get hit by Starmie's Bubblebeam, but between being able to either get a Grass-type, go for a war of attrition with Wartortle or Seismic Toss Kadabra, or try to zap it with Pikachu before it can get overwhelmed, Misty only requires a bit of planning.
Starmie's a definite threat I don't think they thought much about but resisting the water attacks goes a long way and they purposely shy away from having it throw out actual psychic attacks.I don't think the Grass-types are particularly effective honestly, they get completely and utterly outmatched by Misty's Starmie statwise and neither of them learn a decent BP Grass-type move around the time you'd be fighting misty, Oddish is stuck with Absorb. Wartortle should work out nicely though.
You get both Poison Powder if you want raw damage per turn or Sleep Powder to ensure that you don't lose. Absorb's draining effect also helps with tanking Starmie's Tackles.I don't think the Grass-types are particularly effective honestly, they get completely and utterly outmatched by Misty's Starmie statwise and neither of them learn a decent BP Grass-type move around the time you'd be fighting misty, Oddish is stuck with Absorb. Wartortle should work out nicely though.
Wait, what?I'm still floored that Let's Go gave Starmie scald, though. Like wow. Talk about an upgrade.
It looks scary on paper, until you remind you basically have a legendary as Starter, Pikachu sporting 120 base speed and +2 priority autocrit electric attack, and Eevee being bulky enough to tank a hit and delete back with its own Zippy Zap..Wait, what?
Yo, I thought Let's Go was the kiddie casual game, how come they just sic Scald Starmie on the player like that?
To expand on this (and maybe also on Molk's point of Blue being a good battle), I like what they did with the rematches and the bonus boss battles:Let's Go gym leader design is underrated. I made a more detailed post about it a while back, but the gist of it is that even sticking to the OG 151 they made some great changes to the used Pokemon to add much more variety to encounters and represent more Pokemon of the leaders' respective types that no other remake in this series can match the scope of. And while I didn't discuss movesets in that post those ain't too shabby either, with some cool stuff like the aforementioned Scald Starmie, every one of Lt. Surge' Pokemon having Thunderbolt and Koga using Toxic + Protect on 3/4 of his Pokemon.
Well that's because they based its moveset on the TM that Gardenia gave out (Grass Knot) and what level-up moves it (and Roselia) would have at Level 22: Absorb, Growth, Poison Sting, Stun Spore, Mega Drain, Leech Seed, Magical Leaf, & Grass Whistle.By pulling out a third-stage evolution as early as the second Gym, Gardenia certainly made her battle memorable. And to lower the threat to manageable levels, its moveset was kind of gimped. Grass Knot, Poison Sting, Magical Leaf, and Stun Spore isn't that difficult to manage. Great design!
I think Green got Kangaskhan because the boys have their own single staged (makes iffy hand motions on snorlax) pure normal type. Clefable...honestly I think she just got that because she's a Girl so she needs a Girly pokemon and they probably cared enough about her to give her the superior Clefable instead of Wigglytuff.Red: Now usually they give Red all the Kanto Starters, but now that they added Green to the games they have a trio of trainers to spread the Starters to so this time Red only gets (Mega) Venusaur. They replaced his Charizard with Arcanine (which is usually associated with Blue but there's a reason why it was given to Red) and, since he has Lapras for a Water-type, was given a Machamp instead of a Blastoise. Personally would have given him Alakazam in reference to him having an Espeon in the original GSC, but I guess Alakazam is also an iconic member of Blue's team.
Blue: So normally Blue is given a Gyarados, Exeggutor, and an Arcanine; the Pokemon he uses as replacements for the Kanto Starters he doesn't have in the original games and later on whenever they gave Red all the Kanto Starters. But this time Blue was given Charizard thus why Red was given Arcanine. Another notable change was Blue usually used a Pidgeot but that was made into Trace's ace, so they replaced it with a Tauros. Why Tauros you may be wonder? Because I think its a reference to the dummy out Professor Oak battle where he essentially used Blue's team + a Tauros!
Green: So the theme of Green's team is Blastoise and then any other Pokemon that Red & Blue didn't get. It's not much of a restriction of course and there's other choices they made that could be related to Red & Blue. With Blastoise being her Water-type she also does have a Fire- and Grass-type: Ninetales and Victreebel. And with Red having Machamp and Blue having Alakazam, Green was also given a trade evo in Gengar. That just leaves two extra which were Clefairy and Kangaskhan for whatever reason.
Something interesting about Red, Blue and Green in Let's Go to me at first were their starter choices. It seemed like they almost had the exact opposites of what they are usually portrayed with, especially in the case of the two boys: Red with Venusaur instead of Charizard, Blue with Charizard instead of Blastoise and Green with Blastoise instead of Venusaur. Weird, right? Well recently I happened to discover that these were actually the three characters' starter choices in Pokemon Adventures! I have no idea if this was intentional or not but if so that's a really nifty easter egg IMO.To expand on this (and maybe also on Molk's point of Blue being a good battle), I like what they did with the rematches and the bonus boss battles:
Brock: It's essentially his GSC team except replaced Rhyhorn with an Aerodactyl to keep with his sudden focus on fossil Pokemon.
Misty: Interesting thing here is that, whenever they expand on Misty's team in other games they usually give her a Lapras. But this time they gave her a Dewgong, probably because a batch of trainers use Lapras while not that use Dewgong. Getting a Gyarados and Vaporeon are obvious inclusions (even though it wasn't till now she was given a Vaporeon).
Lt. Surge: Another GSC team but replacing the extra Electrode he had with a Jolteon.
Erika: A surprising addition is Parasect, though with no Bug expert I guess it shouldn't be as its an easy place to put it. She also gets Exeggutor which is less surprising.
Koga: Kind of funny. He adds a Tentacruel which he never used before in the games BUT he did in the Adventure manga.
Sabrina: Honestly the most interesting change with Sabrina was done with her initial team be replacing the random Venomoth with a more appropriate Jynx. Her rematch team only adds a Hypno.
Blaine: Misty got Vaporeon, Lt. Surge got Jolteon, what do you think Blaine got?
Archer: Taking a quick swerve here, it was a surprise to see them adding Archer into the narrative, and he shockingly has a better team here then he did in GSC! He starts out with just a Weezing and Golbat, but second battle (which is a double with a grunt) he adds an Electrode and his third battle adds a Magmar (personally would have made it an Arcanine to more reference his Houndoom but whatever). Still, it's not that bad team and puts his GSC team to shame (FUN FACT: His second battle in Let's Go had him nearly on equal level with his GSC team, his third having his team being nearly 20+ levels).
Elite Four: It's neat how they Elite Four got Alolan Pokemon as an addition to their team. While Bruno getting Alolan Golem is a bit of a stretch, the others make sense (and whatever gets the serious Lance to having to use an Alolan Exeggutor is okay in my book).
Red: Now usually they give Red all the Kanto Starters, but now that they added Green to the games they have a trio of trainers to spread the Starters to so this time Red only gets (Mega) Venusaur. They replaced his Charizard with Arcanine (which is usually associated with Blue but there's a reason why it was given to Red) and, since he has Lapras for a Water-type, was given a Machamp instead of a Blastoise. Personally would have given him Alakazam in reference to him having an Espeon in the original GSC, but I guess Alakazam is also an iconic member of Blue's team.
Blue: So normally Blue is given a Gyarados, Exeggutor, and an Arcanine; the Pokemon he uses as replacements for the Kanto Starters he doesn't have in the original games and later on whenever they gave Red all the Kanto Starters. But this time Blue was given Charizard thus why Red was given Arcanine. Another notable change was Blue usually used a Pidgeot but that was made into Trace's ace, so they replaced it with a Tauros. Why Tauros you may be wonder? Because I think its a reference to the dummy out Professor Oak battle where he essentially used Blue's team + a Tauros!
Green: So the theme of Green's team is Blastoise and then any other Pokemon that Red & Blue didn't get. It's not much of a restriction of course and there's other choices they made that could be related to Red & Blue. With Blastoise being her Water-type she also does have a Fire- and Grass-type: Ninetales and Victreebel. And with Red having Machamp and Blue having Alakazam, Green was also given a trade evo in Gengar. That just leaves two extra which were Clefairy and Kangaskhan for whatever reason.
Well that's because they based its moveset on the TM that Gardenia gave out (Grass Knot) and what level-up moves it (and Roselia) would have at Level 22: Absorb, Growth, Poison Sting, Stun Spore, Mega Drain, Leech Seed, Magical Leaf, & Grass Whistle.
They have those starters because they match their games & names in Japan.Something interesting about Red, Blue and Green in Let's Go to me at first were their starter choices. It seemed like they almost had the exact opposites of what they are usually portrayed with, especially in the case of the two boys: Red with Venusaur instead of Charizard, Blue with Charizard instead of Blastoise and Green with Blastoise instead of Venusaur. Weird, right? Well recently I happened to discover that these were actually the three characters' starter choices in Pokemon Adventures! I have no idea if this was intentional or not but if so that's a really nifty easter egg IMO.
Also some hella old Ken art.Something interesting about Red, Blue and Green in Let's Go to me at first were their starter choices. It seemed like they almost had the exact opposites of what they are usually portrayed with, especially in the case of the two boys: Red with Venusaur instead of Charizard, Blue with Charizard instead of Blastoise and Green with Blastoise instead of Venusaur. Weird, right? Well recently I happened to discover that these were actually the three characters' starter choices in Pokemon Adventures! I have no idea if this was intentional or not but if so that's a really nifty easter egg IMO.
They have those starters because they match their games & names in Japan.
Blue is green in japan, so he gets Venusaur. Green is blue in japan, so she gets Blastoise. It matches the manga because the manga did the same thing.
Honestly TPCi shoudl have asked GameFreak to swap their starters for the international versions but it is what it is.
e: Did you know they did that? Like once, ever, in gen 2 there's a fisherman who has 3 pokemon and the joke is they all have "king" in their names in Japan. The localizer noticed this and also noticed we happened to have 3 pokemon with "king" in their name, and asked to have them changed. iirc this change was reverted in the remakes.
Thanks for the history/localization lesson! Yeah like R_N said probably woulda been a good idea to change their signature starters for the Americas.Also some hella old Ken art.
Lamo despite having all the teams open in a tab I completely misread how everyone got thier startersThey have those starters because they match their games & names in Japan.
Blue is green in japan, so he gets Venusaur. Green is blue in japan, so she gets Blastoise. It matches the manga because the manga did the same thing.
Honestly TPCi shoudl have asked GameFreak to swap their starters for the international versions but it is what it is.
e: Did you know they did that? Like once, ever, in gen 2 there's a fisherman who has 3 pokemon and the joke is they all have "king" in their names in Japan. The localizer noticed this and also noticed we happened to have 3 pokemon with "king" in their name, and asked to have them changed. iirc this change was reverted in the remakes.
Hol up.To expand on this (and maybe also on Molk's point of Blue being a good battle), I like what they did with the rematches and the bonus boss battles:
Brock: It's essentially his GSC team except replaced Rhyhorn with an Aerodactyl to keep with his sudden focus on fossil Pokemon.
Misty: Interesting thing here is that, whenever they expand on Misty's team in other games they usually give her a Lapras. But this time they gave her a Dewgong, probably because a batch of trainers use Lapras while not that use Dewgong. Getting a Gyarados and Vaporeon are obvious inclusions (even though it wasn't till now she was given a Vaporeon).
Lt. Surge: Another GSC team but replacing the extra Electrode he had with a Jolteon.
Erika: A surprising addition is Parasect, though with no Bug expert I guess it shouldn't be as its an easy place to put it. She also gets Exeggutor which is less surprising.
Koga: Kind of funny. He adds a Tentacruel which he never used before in the games BUT he did in the Adventure manga.
Sabrina: Honestly the most interesting change with Sabrina was done with her initial team be replacing the random Venomoth with a more appropriate Jynx. Her rematch team only adds a Hypno.
Blaine: Misty got Vaporeon, Lt. Surge got Jolteon, what do you think Blaine got?
Archer: Taking a quick swerve here, it was a surprise to see them adding Archer into the narrative, and he shockingly has a better team here then he did in GSC! He starts out with just a Weezing and Golbat, but second battle (which is a double with a grunt) he adds an Electrode and his third battle adds a Magmar (personally would have made it an Arcanine to more reference his Houndoom but whatever). Still, it's not that bad team and puts his GSC team to shame (FUN FACT: His second battle in Let's Go had him nearly on equal level with his GSC team, his third having his team being nearly 20+ levels).
Elite Four: It's neat how they Elite Four got Alolan Pokemon as an addition to their team. While Bruno getting Alolan Golem is a bit of a stretch, the others make sense (and whatever gets the serious Lance to having to use an Alolan Exeggutor is okay in my book).
Red: Now usually they give Red all the Kanto Starters, but now that they added Green to the games they have a trio of trainers to spread the Starters to so this time Red only gets (Mega) Venusaur. They replaced his Charizard with Arcanine (which is usually associated with Blue but there's a reason why it was given to Red) and, since he has Lapras for a Water-type, was given a Machamp instead of a Blastoise. Personally would have given him Alakazam in reference to him having an Espeon in the original GSC, but I guess Alakazam is also an iconic member of Blue's team.
Blue: So normally Blue is given a Gyarados, Exeggutor, and an Arcanine; the Pokemon he uses as replacements for the Kanto Starters he doesn't have in the original games and later on whenever they gave Red all the Kanto Starters. But this time Blue was given Charizard thus why Red was given Arcanine. Another notable change was Blue usually used a Pidgeot but that was made into Trace's ace, so they replaced it with a Tauros. Why Tauros you may be wonder? Because I think its a reference to the dummy out Professor Oak battle where he essentially used Blue's team + a Tauros!
Green: So the theme of Green's team is Blastoise and then any other Pokemon that Red & Blue didn't get. It's not much of a restriction of course and there's other choices they made that could be related to Red & Blue. With Blastoise being her Water-type she also does have a Fire- and Grass-type: Ninetales and Victreebel. And with Red having Machamp and Blue having Alakazam, Green was also given a trade evo in Gengar. That just leaves two extra which were Clefairy and Kangaskhan for whatever reason.
Well that's because they based its moveset on the TM that Gardenia gave out (Grass Knot) and what level-up moves it (and Roselia) would have at Level 22: Absorb, Growth, Poison Sting, Stun Spore, Mega Drain, Leech Seed, Magical Leaf, & Grass Whistle.