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SPOILERS! Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl Data Dumps
- Thread starter DHR-107
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Power Whip Mr. Mime is an extremely funny (and terrifying) mental image.
As some of you may know, I was softlocked for a week because of Drifloon.
Since i have both Diamond and Pearl, i pulled out a big brain. I put my pearl on thursday 18, a few hours from friday 19, did the playthrough to galaxia team, defeated them, waited some hours and it worked and I've Drifloon.
If there's someone in my situation, and doesn't have a way of finding Drifloon online, tell me and I'll give you one to help you out of this shitty softlock.
Since i have both Diamond and Pearl, i pulled out a big brain. I put my pearl on thursday 18, a few hours from friday 19, did the playthrough to galaxia team, defeated them, waited some hours and it worked and I've Drifloon.
If there's someone in my situation, and doesn't have a way of finding Drifloon online, tell me and I'll give you one to help you out of this shitty softlock.
I have given up on Burmy. Vespiquen & Cherrim will be my new best friends.
Also guess I'm using Ponyta because the fire type would be really nice for all these bronzors. I was going to get one out of the underground but suddenly all the pokemon are like level 27 and this game has the SWSH catch penalty anyway so I just grabebd one on route 206.
I'm probably going to pick up Swinub as my last one but uhhh later, when I am not running into level 29 swinubs.
Also guess I'm using Ponyta because the fire type would be really nice for all these bronzors. I was going to get one out of the underground but suddenly all the pokemon are like level 27 and this game has the SWSH catch penalty anyway so I just grabebd one on route 206.
I'm probably going to pick up Swinub as my last one but uhhh later, when I am not running into level 29 swinubs.
The Penalty in SWSH is removed when you collect all the gym badges (or maybe beat Leon? cant remember) I believe.
Really? Interesting, that would explain it then.
Yeah, catching Pokemon in the Underground right after a gym badge is usually rough if you aren't really overleveled. They seem to be based on what level they expect you to be at for the next gym. Gyms 2 and 3 have a huge gap so yeeeeaaaaahhhh....
| 1 badge earned | 16-20 |
| 2 badges earned | 25-29 |
| 3 badges earned | 29-33 |
| 4 badges earned | 33-37 |
| 5 badges earned | 36-40 |
| 6 badges earned | 39-43 |
| 7 badges earned | 42-46 |
| 8 badges earned | 50-55 |
| Elite Four Defeated | 58-63 |
You can do the mental math on how this shakes out
I actually noticed it before Gardenia when I tried to catch a couple level 20 mons and saw that they were just instantly breaking out. But I also thought it woudl stick around the early 20s for longer...oops!
It does... but by scaling to a level way higher than the ones from the last Gym Leader. Imagine beating Gardenia's Level 22 Roserade, wanting to catch something in the Underground and then BAM! Level 29 Wild Pokémon.
At the same time, though, if you know your matchups, it's the best leveling spot in the game.
Oh that's why they removed the berry map app from the poketch: the town map now shows ripe berries according to this NPC.
Press Location Info and you can cycle between berries, un marked honey trees, marked honey trees and sparkling honey trees (I assume these are honey trees that have pokemon on them)
Press Location Info and you can cycle between berries, un marked honey trees, marked honey trees and sparkling honey trees (I assume these are honey trees that have pokemon on them)
This is so weird... especially since there's a jump between 1 and 2 gym badges, when most others are 'connected' (going from 25-29, 29-33 etc). If these level ranges were moved one Gym Badge forwards each and the 2 badges levels were 20-24, this would probably be fine! If it weren't for the 8 badges range I'd suspect this was a mistake, but this is just how it is I guess
Like Jinrou pointed out, it's probably because there's a huge gap between fighting Gardenia & fighting Maylene compared with Maylene & Wake, Wake & Fantina, etc etc
I'm taking my time with battling Gardenia, to catch Underground pokémon before the level hike
Also, I am going for Alternate Intro encounters, so that the pokémon have at least 2 beneficial perfect IVs. I really wish there was a way to affect or control the rate of them, since they're more of a time sink than hunting for Brilliant pokémon in SwSh.
Oh wow. Does this mean the game is glitched? Milotic with calm mind is pretty darn awesome though..should have gotten it long ago imo.
Not glitched, moreso ILCA coded in the wrong move. It's like in Sun & Moon when a Kommo-o in the Battle Tree had Shell Smash
With the new "Surf on land -> Shaymin" glitch that was found yesterday, can anyone confirm or deny if it's possible to do in v1.0.0? This way it will theoretically remain permanently accessible even if later patched out. (I know there was something about "Oak's Letter isn't fully programmed in yet" but I don't know if that extends to what is essentially a "go directly to Seabreak Path" wrong movement glitch.)
I don't think the event was really "there", like you couldn't activate it or force it or do anything with it. I don't think the pokemon were actually there, just sort of the uhhh, scaffolding, I guess. Like the dialog there, the flags pointing to it are there, the slots for the encounter were there, but nothing else to really "put it together" without hacking.
I saw it mentioned that sync works with gift pokemon - is this also true for gift eggs?
I just used EQ on a Tentacruel and it didn’t display SE on the move selection nor did it say Super Effective upon use? Am I missing something here
I don't think I've seen a general summary of how the movepools are constructed, besides a few tidbits here and there, so I would like to ask about any general patterns that were found. My understanding is that the egg moves are completely copied from Gen 7 for all Pokemon, including those that were in Sword and Shield, but the rest of the learnsets (levelup and TMs) were copy-pasted from Sword and Shield where applicable, with moves that were TM-only in Sword/Shield but not TMs in BDSP just unavailable to the respective Pokemon. Is this understanding correct, and if so, are there any notable exceptions to the rule?
That seems to be the general principle. As a consequence, moves like Psychic Terrain and Pollen Puff are entirely cut from the game because nothing learns them under this philosophy. One oddity we discovered earlier in the thread was Nidoking picking up Sludge Wave by level-up, which is good news for the LO Sheer Force archetype but downright bizarre in light of so many other Pokémon losing historically important moves (e.g. Altaria's Dragon Dance). You may also be aware that Toxic returns as a TM but sees greatly restricted distribution compared to any prior game where it appeared, which we can only assume is a conscious decision. Someone behind the scenes selectively tinkered with these things at their personal discretion, and I doubt we'll learn the full rationale unless that person(s) is identified and interviewed.
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