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A bit intrigued by the wording.
Specifically "while visiting your friends".
Makes me wonder if I accidentally saw right in the camping not really replacing the breeding, just some extra way to get pokemon not otherwise present in your game (kinda like Dynamax raids let you get version exclusives from the other game)
You can find them while visiting friends or while picnicking alone
 

A bit intrigued by the wording.
Specifically "while visiting your friends".
Makes me wonder if I accidentally saw right in the camping not really replacing the breeding, just some extra way to get pokemon not otherwise present in your game (kinda like Dynamax raids let you get version exclusives from the other game)
This is going to be a weird comparison but I remember a lot of RPGs (both "character" ones and Monster ones) where you could link-interact with friends and then might get the chance to recruit their characters or monsters to your roster, straight out of their party. This was to the point that it was the only way to complete a Bestiary through either Version-exclusives or Duplicating rare monsters for Fusion chains. Since Pokemon, for multiple reasons, probably wants to discourage that as pseudo-cloning, maybe the Eggs are a compromise.

So if I really like Mark's Perfect super-strong Charizard Nidoking, but he doesn't want to trade it to me, then I can get an egg while picnicking in his game that will hatch into a Nidoran that is essentially a baby version of his (IV inheritance and Egg moves mainly) to raise up myself. Doesn't have an overt "given by X" world-role, benefits the Player Interaction aspect, and organically keeps the system to non-Breedable Pokemon (so no worries about stacking Legendaries or Mythicals in the Pokemon-version of that system)

You can find them while visiting friends or while picnicking alone
While true, specifying Eggs in the post about group interaction for Picnics in what seems to be the latest "Multiplayer Hub" (Union Room, Join Avenue, PSS, Festival Plaza) does make me wonder if there's a specific interaction or behavior here compared to Solo, as a way to further encourage socialization.
 
This is going to be a weird comparison but I remember a lot of RPGs (both "character" ones and Monster ones) where you could link-interact with friends and then might get the chance to recruit their characters or monsters to your roster, straight out of their party. This was to the point that it was the only way to complete a Bestiary through either Version-exclusives or Duplicating rare monsters for Fusion chains. Since Pokemon, for multiple reasons, probably wants to discourage that as pseudo-cloning, maybe the Eggs are a compromise.

So if I really like Mark's Perfect super-strong Charizard Nidoking, but he doesn't want to trade it to me, then I can get an egg while picnicking in his game that will hatch into a Nidoran that is essentially a baby version of his (IV inheritance and Egg moves mainly) to raise up myself. Doesn't have an overt "given by X" world-role, benefits the Player Interaction aspect, and organically keeps the system to non-Breedable Pokemon (so no worries about stacking Legendaries or Mythicals in the Pokemon-version of that system)


While true, specifying Eggs in the post about group interaction for Picnics in what seems to be the latest "Multiplayer Hub" (Union Room, Join Avenue, PSS, Festival Plaza) does make me wonder if there's a specific interaction or behavior here compared to Solo, as a way to further encourage socialization.
I think it's just being pointed out so that you know it can still happen, since if they didn't specify there's a chance you wouldn't know otherwise.
 
I think it's just being pointed out so that you know it can still happen, since if they didn't specify there's a chance you wouldn't know otherwise.
I feel like when they already cover that Picnics in general can yield Eggs, that it goes without saying that eggs can appear during multiplayer as well. Another potential interaction is everyone gets the "same" egg (loose use of the term ranging from same species to a bunch of shared traits/numbers under the hood).

Also, I'm pre-empting this: Someone's gonna draw a Picnic/Cooking comic where the punchline is "Character finds Pokemon Egg -> Egg Based food is being eaten" before Saturday is over.
 
Something really weird that has come up



The English trailer seems to be using a much older buld than the Japanese one. JP runs at a much better framerate and doesn't have the 3 minimap mons visble (Also the Wooper in the picnic scene stays the same form)

I have no idea why the trailer is like this but at least we know the framerate is improved in more recent builds
 
I feel like when they already cover that Picnics in general can yield Eggs, that it goes without saying that eggs can appear during multiplayer as well. Another potential interaction is everyone gets the "same" egg (loose use of the term ranging from same species to a bunch of shared traits/numbers under the hood).
I didn't make that assumption (before seeing the website mention it) because my assumption was "oh this is a breeding related mechanic, and they would keep that as a solo interaction while the multiplayer focuses on the pictures and sandwiches"
 
Rest PP being nerfed probably means all healing moves will have their PP halved. I welcome this change honestly.

It doesn't mean that at all. In Gen 4 Recover went from 32 PPs to 16, no other move was affected (granted, Recover was the outlier here as the only recovery move with 32 PPs, but still).

And I don't like this at all, going defensive is already hard enough and Rest was the most balanced recovery move.
 
Yeah, here it says strike as in attacking moves.
"Strike first" has nothing to do with being an attacking move or not according to the pokemon.com glossary. There are also status priority moves like Baby-Doll Eyes and Prankster stuff that Dazzling/Queenly Majesty block as well.

https://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/about/video-game-glossary/
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Also the Tsareena page uses the same wording as the giraffe page, nothing about attacks or striking.
https://web.archive.org/web/20161018174129/http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/tsareena/ (use inspect element to delete the loading screen)
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Apparently this still managed to trick people into thinking they would have a difference back in October 2016 though and now even today.
 
I feel like this could mean they heard the backlash against the wifi 20 minute timer so they're bringing back the unlimited battles but still want to limit how long a battle goes on.
I don’t think it’s about the timer. The timer issue is that animations took forever to play out. It may be that something in SV can abuse Rest hard. Or maybe they just randomly nerfed it. They did nerf Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, and Ice Beam.
Anyone try mathing out what base power Tera Blast could have? Is that sort of thing okay here because it is possible it may not have that high of a base power.
We can’t exactly know the BP of Tera Blast, but it looks pretty weak from the trailer since it has similar damage to Icy Wind even when Terastallized.
 
Updated Paldea checklist:

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Color code:
- Green: this Pokemon is present in the Paldea Pokedex,
- Dark Green: this Pokemon has a new Regional Form
- Light Green: this Pokemon is likely to be present in the Paldea Pokedex.

New confirmations:
- Grimer, Muk,
- Numel, Camerupt,
- Litleo, Pyroar,
- Rookidee, Corvisquire, Corviknight,
- Toxel, Toxtricity,
- Snom, Frosmoth.

Notably, a Johtoan Wooper could also be seen in the trailer which suggests that it and Johtoan Quagsire can be obtained during normal gameplay.

Farigiraf is amazing – I really love the idea behind its design! I am also pretty happy that they are making regular evolutions again. Also, its existence greatly increases the chance that Kleavor and Ursaluna are present in the Paldea Pokedex.

EDIT: Added the Numel line.
 
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Notably, a Johtoan Wooper could also be seen in the trailer which suggests that it and Johtoan Quagsire can be obtained during normal gameplay.
SwSh had trades for all of the non-Galarian versions of galar Pokemon so it would make sense if there was something similar in SV. Would be interesting if you could catch non-Paldean Wooper in the wild though, since you couldn't with previous regional formes.
 
SwSh had trades for all of the non-Galarian versions of galar Pokemon so it would make sense if there was something similar in SV. Would be interesting if you could catch non-Paldean Wooper in the wild though, since you couldn't with previous regional formes.
Well L.A. does set a precedent since you can actually catch both variants of Sneasel in the game.
 
SwSh had trades for all of the non-Galarian versions of galar Pokemon so it would make sense if there was something similar in SV. Would be interesting if you could catch non-Paldean Wooper in the wild though, since you couldn't with previous regional formes.
Technically base SWSH only had trades for base Meowth/Yamask/Mr. Mime so that you could get Persian and Cofagrigus to complete the regional dex, and the rest of the formes were added in trades in the Isle of Armor DLC.
 


This is interesting. There's definitely not enough of a difference between these two icons for this to feasibly be a different form imo - they're the same design in different poses. Not sure what to make of this, but I've seen the idea of them being a group of mons like Falinks or Exeggcute and the two of them are meant to be one single icon here. Only issue with that is that it'd be a rather wide icon, but I can maybe see that (Specially with such simplistic baymax ass designs - they're meant to be seen as groups so maybe having more complex design would be visually cluttered)
 
WHOA CALM DOWN YOU FOLKS ARE POSTING WAY TOO MUCH WAY TOO FAST!
It's so incredibly pokemon to turn a nice QoL feature into a story-necessary mechanic, to the benefit of nobody whatsoever. I sure do love being forced to autobattle thru story segments
Maybe the player can do something else at the same time. Maybe throwing rocks and baits. Or punching grunts. Or solving a puzzle.
I challenge anyone to find a good-looking tree in modern 3D games. Any game. Even on "beautiful" games like RDR2 or The Witcher 3, no-one is excited to stare at trees for more than two seconds.
I’ve been sitting here for a few minutes now trying to think of any critiques I have for the trailer, and I really can’t think of much. Even that bit with the choppy frame rate Sunflora group doesn’t worry that much since A. this was probably taken from an earlier build of the game, and B. there’s bound to be some frame rate issues when specific assets of a game (i.e. Sunflora’s 3D model) are duplicated over itself multiple times.
Yeah, that scene with Sunflora is choppy as heck. Hopefully it will be fixed soon, preferably on release.
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3 new Pokémon revealed on the minimap at 7:16.
Discount Minccino, a parrot clipart, and a Super Mario mushroom with a block of sugar or a chimney stuck inside.
I wonder if that new shroom evolves into Mario.
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The great error has been corrected. We are back to where we always belonged.

Eat shit, Mega Evolution.
WHOAWHOAWHOA- Spoilers! Calm down, mate! Not even the leakers crossed this line!
The thing that stands out to me more is that more of Gen 2's mons are being saved from the pits of utter mediocrity and forgettableness with these new evolutions to redeem them.

Wyrdeer and Farigiraf in particular are two of the most welcome new evolutions because Stantler and Girafarig have historically been two of the most mediocre and forgettable Pokemon in existence who became more and more forgettable and bad as time went on, so them having new evolutions to redeem them and make them stand out more is by all means welcome.

I am very happy to see more and more of Gen 2's roster being saved from the realms of mediocrity, they deserve it.
Coincidentally, Johto Normal-Types seem to be the pattern here. They’ve covered most of them by now if we count the Dunsparce leaks. I can’t remember off the top of my head, but I think that just leaves Furret and Noctowl as the only two left. Noctowl could get help in a number of ways, and Furret… well, here’s what I’ll say.

Unova remakes are next in line, and after what happened with the Furret walk memes… hey, you never know
Wait... Are you telling me there's a chance for Furret, Unown and Dunsparce?:quagchamppogsire:
"Hmmm i haven't battled my friend in a while, I wonder how his Lechonk is doin-"


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"Oh my Arceus they ate Lechonk!
- You bastards!"
Ok so we have Rock Mushroom Pokemon, and Breloom is in the game, now we have Scuttle Bug.
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Is Steel Terastallize gonna be Metal Cap too?
Watch the Psychic or Fairy one look like a Star Bit. And while we’re at it, Minior in general exists.
My biggest complaint about this trailer: no new Terastal hats. Boo.
What I'm most interested about are breeding mechanics. This' been the most important aspect of Pokémon to me since Gen IV -I truly love everything related to this things, thats why I'm a huge fan of SA2 Chao Island etc-, and I don't grasp at all how the new hatching egg thing will be. I hope it turns out fine.
it's wild to me how NOTHING the explanation was, even the site doesnt clarify literally anything. Just "wow, you can find eggs!"

Hasnt that been the explanation for pokemon breeding for last 20 years though. The breeders also just "found eggs" without even knowing where they're from :tymp:
The unfunny answer to where Eggs come from: 1665079972199.png

(To be continued...)
 
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This is interesting. There's definitely not enough of a difference between these two icons for this to feasibly be a different form imo - they're the same design in different poses. Not sure what to make of this, but I've seen the idea of them being a group of mons like Falinks or Exeggcute and the two of them are meant to be one single icon here. Only issue with that is that it'd be a rather wide icon, but I can maybe see that (Specially with such simplistic baymax ass designs - they're meant to be seen as groups so maybe having more complex design would be visually cluttered)
I looked at the trailer again and there are no animations for those sprites, so it’s probably a variation like Meowstic or really obvious gender difference.
 
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