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CAP 2 Smogon "Create a Pokemon" Part Deux: Poll 3

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I'm gonna say offensive, there are no physically offensive ghost types

EDIT: bannette sucks and dusknoirs slow, in fact they're both slow, i'm talking about a sweeper
 
I'd be willing to bet that that would be quite broken, if it had a good movepool. Great typing+good defenses+good speed to use the+good attacks+great STAB.


the offesive movepool probably wont be too big..

If physical

close combat
cross chop
brick break
stone edge
shadow claw
pursuit
shadow sneak
elemental punches

If special

shadow ball
focus blast
thunderbolt
grass knot
vacuum wave
aura sphere (maybe)

Just due to typing i cant see it getting much more, so really threatening but seems possible to counter..
 
the offesive movepool probably wont be too big..

If physical

close combat
cross chop
brick break
stone edge
shadow claw
pursuit
shadow sneak
elemental punches

If special

shadow ball
focus blast
thunderbolt
grass knot
vacuum wave
aura sphere (maybe)

Just due to typing i cant see it getting much more, so really threatening but seems possible to counter..

Don't forget Thunder. It needs that to deal with Kyogre.
 
the offesive movepool probably wont be too big..

If physical

close combat
cross chop
brick break
stone edge
shadow claw
pursuit
shadow sneak
elemental punches

If special

shadow ball
focus blast
thunderbolt
grass knot
vacuum wave
aura sphere (maybe)

Just due to typing i cant see it getting much more, so really threatening but seems possible to counter..

you forgot shadow force/punch
 
Uber eh?

Physical:

Close Combat
Cross Chop
Sky Uppercut
Brick Break
Mach Punch
Shadow Force
Shadow Claw
Shadow Punch
Shadow Sneak
Elemental Punches
Blaze Kick
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Extremespeed
Sucker Punch
Pursuit

Special:

Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Aura Sphere
Thunderbolt
Thunder
Energy Ball
Grass Knot
Ice Beam
Blizzard
Dragon Pulse
Dark Pulse
Psychic
Ancientpower
Hidden Power

Support:
Bulk Up
Calm Mind

For starters.
 
I vore for DEFENSIVE.

With it being defensive, it will seem more balanced/less broken. Most tanks despite, not having super power, ususally have base 80 atk/sp.atk. Which is pretty high, and can abuse its great attack combo.
 
Uber eh?

Physical:

Close Combat
Cross Chop
Sky Uppercut
Brick Break
Mach Punch
Shadow Force
Shadow Claw
Shadow Punch
Shadow Sneak
Elemental Punches
Blaze Kick
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Extremespeed
Sucker Punch
Pursuit

Special:

Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Aura Sphere
Thunderbolt
Thunder
Energy Ball
Grass Knot
Ice Beam
Blizzard
Dragon Pulse
Dark Pulse
Psychic
Ancientpower
Hidden Power

Support:
Bulk Up
Calm Mind

For starters.
I'm not sure if you were joking...Um, I think what Tsukikage meant was like Blissey and T-Tar in Uber, not itself being Uber.
 
Should our new Ghost/Fighting Pokemon be offensive, defensive, or balanced?
Defensive all the way. Ideally with lopsided defense toward Special Defense to gratuitous extent: Above Umbreon and lower than Blissey on the Sp.Def tiers.
 
I'm not sure if you were joking...Um, I think what Tsukikage meant was like Blissey and T-Tar in Uber, not itself being Uber.

Yeah, I'm joking. It would have Swords Dance, Nasty Plot, Rock Polish, Baton Pass, and Me First too, were I serious.
 
Balanced is the way to go. It needs to have the ability to counter Heracross and Tyranitar 100% of the time, which means that it needs the defenses to do so. Meanwhile, we can give it good offensive options to take advantage of its STAB-attacks. Plus, this would make it balanced (no pun intended), in general, as to make it fully offensive, it would need Close Combat, which diminishes its ability to take hits based upon its statistics and superior typing.

Looking Down the Road
Personally, I am hoping for a spread that resembles the likes of Swampert, giving it the ability to really tank and deal out good amounts of damage. Most importantly, I think it is absolutely imperative that we give this thing the move Bulk Up. With Bulk Up, this could resemble Swampert even more, with Bulk Up simply in place of Curse. A set of something as simple as Bulk Up, Cross Chop / Force Palm, Shadow Claw / Shadow Punch, and a Recovery Move / Support Move / Coverage Move ... it would wreak havoc, and with good reason. Move aside, Swampert.
 
Lol, for all you guys saying uber, I am putting that as an option on the BST poll. 601+ uber. Mainly for Jibaku and laughs, but still its a valid option. I doubt it will win, but I'm still going to include it.
 
Defensive

iirc, we havn't had a single Fighting type that was a Wall. We have tanks, but I want to see somthing with high stats on both defensive stats, and deal damage with hit BP attacks.

BUT

I wouldn't mind if it was a tank though
 
Balanced is the way to go. It needs to have the ability to counter Heracross and Tyranitar 100% of the time, which means that it needs the defenses to do so. Meanwhile, we can give it good offensive options to take advantage of its STAB-attacks. Plus, this would make it balanced (no pun intended), in general, as to make it fully offensive, it would need Close Combat, which diminishes its ability to take hits based upon its statistics and superior typing.

Looking Down the Road
Personally, I am hoping for a spread that resembles the likes of Swampert, giving it the ability to really tank and deal out good amounts of damage. Most importantly, I think it is absolutely imperative that we give this thing the move Bulk Up. With Bulk Up, this could resemble Swampert even more, with Bulk Up simply in place of Curse. A set of something as simple as Bulk Up, Cross Chop / Force Palm, Shadow Claw / Shadow Punch, and a Recovery Move / Support Move / Coverage Move ... it would wreak havoc, and with good reason. Move aside, Swampert.


Sweet, Swampert with no 4x weakness!
 
Gotta say balanced. Out of all the Ghosts, here we finally have one that has good defensive typing. Why should we go and throw that away by giving it 70/ 60/ 60 defenses? I say something along the lines of 95/ 100/ 80/ 60/ 75/ 100, with a grand total of 510.
 
I'd like to see defensive but with the potential to be something like curselax were by stating up it can take hits and hit hard with it's excellent coverage. Maybe A strong physical defender who can calm mind up and hit back with shadow ball/ aura sphere.
 
You know, check this.

90 / 95 / 95 / 60 / 110 / 75

525 BST. With initial high special defense, it could then use Bulk Up to send its fairly solid attack and defense into higher numbers.

>,>

Sorry, getting ahead of myself, again.

Oh, by the way, Hyra, you were looking for a balanced Pokemon that resembles Swampert / Hippowdon, just on the special side:

Togekiss
would like to have a word with you.
 
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